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Author:  conns7901 [ Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Standards based grading
How do you parents out there who have kids in these school districts feel about dropping the grading scale?

https://www.thecollegefix.com/school-di ... ler-model/
Author:  Darkside [ Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Standards based grading
conns7901 wrote:
How do you parents out there who have kids in these school districts feel about dropping the grading scale?

https://www.thecollegefix.com/school-di ... ler-model/

Thank god I'm not a parent.
This is moronic.
Author:  pittmike [ Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Standards based grading
I think doctors out of med school should be graded only ok or not ok. That’s all you need.
Author:  Nas [ Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:28 pm ]
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A lot of schools have similar grading scales for lower grades. No big deal.
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Standards based grading
Is a big deal.

Just because your little Jane isn't as smart as my Johnny, don't try to lessen his accomplishments and work.
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:02 pm ]
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My kids got graded on this scale in preschool and kindergarten.
Author:  pittmike [ Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Standards based grading
I suppose you can screw with A-D all you want. At some point though you have to have an F at some level. What else do you do with the truly lazy or incapable?
Author:  Nas [ Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Standards based grading
My kids got + or checks in preschool and kindergarten. Starting in 1st grade they were on the A-F scale. I believe some Catholic schools don't get there until 3rd grade.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:13 pm ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
My kids got graded on this scale in preschool and kindergarten.

In 2nd grade (pre through 1st I was in gifted school and it was kind of a crocodile-in-spelling affair), we had grades in class, but the report cards only had Excellent, Satisfactory, and Needs Improvement. By 3rd, we had actual grades but had still had those for subcategories: my handwriting Needed Improvement no matter how Excellent my reading comprehension was, and then my teacher had me put on Ritalin.

There was none of that blow-softening when I moved to Wisconsin, but on my first day of school there, I walked into my new classroom late just in time to hear my teacher ream out the class for collectively putting up such poor writing scores on the state tests that remedial writing assignments would now be given in gym, art, music, and library. I guess the whole town got a Needs Improvement.
Author:  denisdman [ Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:17 pm ]
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We’ve been trying social promotion for a few decades, and we have an entire generation that can’t read at grade level. Hole word learning, hole intended.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Standards based grading
Hey, speaking of library-as-weekly-class, did anyone else who went to grade school in the '90s have to deal with the administration giving the school library some dumbass obfuscatory name? Like, we would have each day's schedule written out on the board and one day "IMC" was listed. I asked what "IMC" was. She said it was "the Instructional Material Center." I asked what that was. She said it was the library. I asked why we couldn't call it the library. She said because it's an instructional material center. Remembering this now, I think that conversation as much as anything was what led to the Ritalin prescription.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Standards based grading
denisdman wrote:
social promotion

Eaglo Jeff wrote:
Take away this ball and chain!
Author:  Darkside [ Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Standards based grading
I was in high school at the start of the 90s but I'm pretty sure the Library was called a resource center in grammar school and Junior High.
Author:  Nas [ Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Standards based grading
Curious Hair wrote:
Hey, speaking of library-as-weekly-class, did anyone else who went to grade school in the '90s have to deal with the administration giving the school library some dumbass obfuscatory name? Like, we would have each day's schedule written out on the board and one day "IMC" was listed. I asked what "IMC" was. She said it was "the Instructional Material Center." I asked what that was. She said it was the library. I asked why we couldn't call it the library. She said because it's an instructional material center. Remembering this now, I think that conversation as much as anything was what led to the Ritalin prescription.


:lol: :lol: Why were/are generally intelligent people made Ritalin zombies?
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Standards based grading
See, for us, the resource center was the little room at the end of the hall for the kids who were too on the ball for special ed but still couldn't read well enough to stay in class.

Thinking back, in middle school we had the LMC, or Library Media Center, which is a little clearer about being a library but still kind of an unnecessary flourish. I think it was because schools were excited about having 25 Macs and a dot-matrix printer.
Author:  Darkside [ Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Standards based grading
Nas wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Hey, speaking of library-as-weekly-class, did anyone else who went to grade school in the '90s have to deal with the administration giving the school library some dumbass obfuscatory name? Like, we would have each day's schedule written out on the board and one day "IMC" was listed. I asked what "IMC" was. She said it was "the Instructional Material Center." I asked what that was. She said it was the library. I asked why we couldn't call it the library. She said because it's an instructional material center. Remembering this now, I think that conversation as much as anything was what led to the Ritalin prescription.


:lol: :lol: Why were/are generally intelligent people made Ritalin zombies?

Intelligence frightens people. Inquisitive children are typically bored and tend to act out when not intellectually challenged. It's easier and cheaper to give them a pill to pop than to get them into expensive gifted class.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Standards based grading
Nas wrote:
:lol: :lol: Why were/are generally intelligent people made Ritalin zombies?

3rd grade, I had some absolute throwback (even by 1994-95) schoolmarm who had zero patience for any sort of restless energy in kids, particularly boys. We had to sign all our assignments with our "NDT," as in Name/Date/Time, and if we logged the incorrect time, our scores got docked for either lying about or not being able to tell time. Every day's schedule was written out to the minute, not just when we would go to specials but all the stuff in class. It was what I'm pretty sure was a very regimented environment for third grade, confirmed the next year when our teacher was extremely chill, classmates from one of the other four rooms the year before more or less asked all the Mrs. S______ kids why we all seemed kinda PTSDy, and no one was put on drugs.
Author:  Urlacher's missing neck [ Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:37 pm ]
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pittmike wrote:
What else do you do with the truly lazy or incapable?

Give them the 10 to midnight shift on The Score of course.
Author:  Drunk Squirrel [ Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Standards based grading
pittmike wrote:
I think doctors out of med school should be graded only ok or not ok. That’s all you need.



My brother would tell you it’s darn near impossible to fail medical school, it’s getting in thst was the hard part.
Author:  SpiralStairs [ Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:12 pm ]
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School conditions the proletariat to be subservient to the bourgeoisie. Anything that undermines this structure is fine by me.
Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:26 pm ]
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pittmike wrote:
I think doctors out of med school should be graded only ok or not ok. That’s all you need.

What do you call a guy that graduated last in his class in Medical School??...“Doctor”.
Author:  Spaulding [ Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Standards based grading
denisdman wrote:
We’ve been trying social promotion for a few decades, and we have an entire generation that can’t read at grade level. Hole word learning, hole intended.


Everybody has a positive self image though.

I think my kids started getting grades in 4th grade. They had a couple pages on the meet and exceed stuff. It's really terrible.
Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Standards based grading
It seems like this grading scale was created by the HR department of some Fortune 500 company so they had something to use on the annual reviews for their cube monkeys.
Author:  Chet Coppock's Fur Coat [ Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Standards based grading
Back in the 70s, we had the softer scale for K-5, and a soft version of A-F (1/2+/2/2-/3) for middle school.

My K-8 had a LOT of tracking. It was gifted/remedial in one class, average in the other. Grades 1-4 for gifted/remedial were "multiage" so that clusters of kids could be formed and reorganized by topic, and on the extremes it was very self paced. Middle school was tracked the same way but they just made the gifted kids sit and be bored, so at least I spent all of 8th grade math studying the tight ass of the young lady at the seat to my right and wondering if Steven Dick's parents were as stupid as he was.
Author:  Spaulding [ Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:41 pm ]
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You ever look at the PARCC or MAP practice questions? Some of it isn't grade appropriate, it's not really in textbooks, and the teachers are prepping the kids for it. It's weird.

I liked the Iowa basic test but I'm nerdy. It made sense. None of this makes any sense.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Standards based grading
I remember taking the Iowa tests in 3rd grade. We did a lot of practice on narrative, expository, and persuasive five-paragraph essays, because we wouldn't know which one our prompt would be. The practice prompt for persuasive was always arguing for or against whether schools should serve McDonald's for lunch. I remember this because we beat this into the ground to the extent that I asked why we couldn't argue anything other than McDonald's for lunch. The prompt on the actual 1994-95 Iowa test was whether schools should serve McDonald's for lunch.
Author:  GoldenJet [ Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:56 am ]
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Was the question ever settled?
Author:  Nas [ Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Standards based grading
Curious Hair wrote:
I remember taking the Iowa tests in 3rd grade. We did a lot of practice on narrative, expository, and persuasive five-paragraph essays, because we wouldn't know which one our prompt would be. The practice prompt for persuasive was always arguing for or against whether schools should serve McDonald's for lunch. I remember this because we beat this into the ground to the extent that I asked why we couldn't argue anything other than McDonald's for lunch. The prompt on the actual 1994-95 Iowa test was whether schools should serve McDonald's for lunch.


The school used to occasionally serve us McDonald's in 2nd or 3rd grade.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Standards based grading
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Is a big deal.

Just because your little Jane isn't as smart as my Johnny, don't try to lessen his accomplishments and work.
Excuse me, Jane now identifies as Josh.
Author:  BigW72 [ Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Standards based grading
Curious Hair wrote:
Hey, speaking of library-as-weekly-class, did anyone else who went to grade school in the '90s have to deal with the administration giving the school library some dumbass obfuscatory name? Like, we would have each day's schedule written out on the board and one day "IMC" was listed. I asked what "IMC" was. She said it was "the Instructional Material Center." I asked what that was. She said it was the library. I asked why we couldn't call it the library. She said because it's an instructional material center. Remembering this now, I think that conversation as much as anything was what led to the Ritalin prescription.

In the 80's it was still the "Library". Early 90's I was in college and that's when the name changing started. "Dorms" HAD to be referred to as "Residence Halls". The "Cafeteria" HAD to be referred to as the "Dining Center". I worked in one of those said "Dining Centers" and the civil service FT manager (who I actually loved and respected dearly) corrected me on a daily basis. it's impossible to call it the "dining center" when people on-campus and 3 hours away in the summer see you and go "it' the CAFETERIA guy!"
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