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Category five aimed directly at Tampa/St Pete.


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going from winds of 60 to 160 in a day.

That is crazy.

Tampa may no longer exist.

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https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/31/desantis-florida-gop-sandy-disaster-aid-00113627

I sympathize with the victims but the Governor is right that we shouldn't be bailing them out.

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It has a decent chance of wiping out areas that got wiped out two years ago by Ian. I’m not as alarmed as many get when it comes to Florida and these storms, but there are certain spots that would be best given over as parkland and allowed to be at nature’s control.


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Sure wish the Democrat weather wizards would come up with catchier names.


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if we reduce the habitable portions of Florida, where will the people who currently reside there go? Exactly. We need those folks to stay in Florida. Florida diaspora would make us long for some comparatively normal fence-jumpers from south of the border to move in next door.


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It has a decent chance of wiping out areas that got wiped out two years ago by Ian. I’m not as alarmed as many get when it comes to Florida and these storms, but there are certain spots that would be best given over as parkland and allowed to be at nature’s control.

This is how I feel about Arizona and Nevada, which don't really have the big showy natural disasters to make people inveigh against living there, but are just gonna, y'know, run out of water.

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I don’t think saying no more relief funds for people who build on Sanibel Island and Fort Myers Beach would register much on the population movement scale.


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It has a decent chance of wiping out areas that got wiped out two years ago by Ian. I’m not as alarmed as many get when it comes to Florida and these storms, but there are certain spots that would be best given over as parkland and allowed to be at nature’s control.

This is how I feel about Arizona and Nevada, which don't really have the big showy natural disasters to make people inveigh against living there, but are just gonna, y'know, run out of water.

There is something more inevitable about the brutal march of the desert. Florida sustains itself on this idea that your odds each year are low and that you can get lucky the way Melbourne gets lucky. Though actually there might be some merit to the idea that certain parts of Atlantic Coast are not that threatened.

This shit on Gulf is stupid. These storms get in there and they are like a bull in China shop, they have nowhere to go but crashing into somewhere where there are lots of people.


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Let's drop a nuke on it.

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It has a decent chance of wiping out areas that got wiped out two years ago by Ian. I’m not as alarmed as many get when it comes to Florida and these storms, but there are certain spots that would be best given over as parkland and allowed to be at nature’s control.

This is how I feel about Arizona and Nevada, which don't really have the big showy natural disasters to make people inveigh against living there, but are just gonna, y'know, run out of water.

Nevada has plenty of water. They just need to stop all the agriculture in California and to a lesser degree Arizona if they want people to live in any of those states.

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Yes just stop the agriculture so we can house tens of millions of people in a desert.


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Yes just stop the agriculture so we can house tens of millions of people in a desert.

What's the other option? Massive death so we can sell alfalfa to China and Japan and the Middle East?

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Yes just stop the agriculture so we can house tens of millions of people in a desert.

What's the other option? Massive death so we can sell alfalfa to China and Japan and the Middle East?

Explain how.


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Yes just stop the agriculture so we can house tens of millions of people in a desert.

What's the other option? Massive death so we can sell alfalfa to China and Japan and the Middle East?

Explain how.

The idea is that the southwest, specifically Arizona, Nevada, and Southern California, is going to run out of water.

But then you realize that a massive portion of that water currently is being used to grow alfalfa, which Americans don't even really eat, for export to China, Japan, and the Middle East. So, the absurd choice seems to be between still growing alfalfa and letting people die of thirst or no longer growing alfalfa and letting people not die of thirst.

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Yes just stop the agriculture so we can house tens of millions of people in a desert.

What's the other option? Massive death so we can sell alfalfa to China and Japan and the Middle East?

Explain how.

The idea is that the southwest, specifically Arizona, Nevada, and Southern California, is going to run out of water.

But then you realize that a massive portion of that water currently is being used to grow alfalfa, which Americans don't even really eat, for export to China, Japan, and the Middle East. So, the absurd choice seems to be between still growing alfalfa and letting people die of thirst or no longer growing alfalfa and letting people not die of thirst.

People won’t die of thirst it will just become prohibitively expensive to provide them water. Are you twelve years old? You can’t actually think this way.


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People won’t die of thirst it will just become prohibitively expensive to provide them water.
Just read that sentence again. They won't die. They just can't afford water to drink!

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Are you twelve years old? You can’t actually think this way.
What do you think an entire area of the country running out of water actually means? I mean, maybe it's just mass evacuations and complete abandonment instead of death all so we can export as much alfalfa as we do now.

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Brick wrote:
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People won’t die of thirst it will just become prohibitively expensive to provide them water.
Just read that sentence again. They won't die. They just can't afford water to drink!

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Are you twelve years old? You can’t actually think this way.
What do you think an entire area of the country running out of water actually means? I mean, maybe it's just mass evacuations and complete abandonment instead of death all so we can export as much alfalfa as we do now.

Let me ask you Brick, what would you all the water you consume in your everyday life cost roughly as much per unit as bottled water does? Would you maybe, idk, move somewhere else?


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I mean, maybe it's just mass evacuations and complete abandonment instead of death all so we can export as much alfalfa as we do now.


Saudi Arabia wouldn't have anything to feed their [s]women[/s] cattle


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People won’t die of thirst it will just become prohibitively expensive to provide them water.
Just read that sentence again. They won't die. They just can't afford water to drink!

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Are you twelve years old? You can’t actually think this way.
What do you think an entire area of the country running out of water actually means? I mean, maybe it's just mass evacuations and complete abandonment instead of death all so we can export as much alfalfa as we do now.

Let me ask you Brick, what would you all the water you consume in your everyday life cost roughly as much per unit as bottled water does? Would you maybe, idk, move somewhere else?

"People won't die. They'll have to move so they don't die" isn't exactly the great thought you think it is.

But again, let's make drinking water prohibitively expensive to the point where people have to flee the area so they don't die while we grow alfalfa for export to China, Japan, and the Middle East is certainly an interesting thing for you to support.

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OK we can either make money selling cash crops or spend money housing people who could live elsewhere but chose not because they don’t want to be cold.

People want to live in the desert? OK, be prepared to spend a lot of $$$ in the process.


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Ok, I'll put you down for the idea that the Southwest shouldn't have people in it so we can use the water to grow alfalfa for other countries. :lol:

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What a retard.


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What a retard.

No, It's a skill he's honed.

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Let’s try to capture that water to grow afalfa for export to China.

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Yes just stop the agriculture so we can house tens of millions of people in a desert.

What's the other option? Massive death so we can sell alfalfa to China and Japan and the Middle East?

Explain how.

The idea is that the southwest, specifically Arizona, Nevada, and Southern California, is going to run out of water.

But then you realize that a massive portion of that water currently is being used to grow alfalfa, which Americans don't even really eat, for export to China, Japan, and the Middle East. So, the absurd choice seems to be between still growing alfalfa and letting people die of thirst or no longer growing alfalfa and letting people not die of thirst.

According to available data, the majority of alfalfa produced in the U.S. is used for livestock feed, with estimates suggesting that 75-80% of alfalfa is utilized by dairy cattle in major dairy producing states like California, Wisconsin, and Idaho, making it the most important hay crop fed to dairy cows in the country.

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Yes just stop the agriculture so we can house tens of millions of people in a desert.

What's the other option? Massive death so we can sell alfalfa to China and Japan and the Middle East?

Explain how.

The idea is that the southwest, specifically Arizona, Nevada, and Southern California, is going to run out of water.

But then you realize that a massive portion of that water currently is being used to grow alfalfa, which Americans don't even really eat, for export to China, Japan, and the Middle East. So, the absurd choice seems to be between still growing alfalfa and letting people die of thirst or no longer growing alfalfa and letting people not die of thirst.

According to available data, the majority of alfalfa produced in the U.S. is used for livestock feed, with estimates suggesting that 75-80% of alfalfa is utilized by dairy cattle in major dairy producing states like California, Wisconsin, and Idaho, making it the most important hay crop fed to dairy cows in the country.

I don't want to guess wrongly so can you elaborate on this point?

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Milton or Tampa?

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