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Author:  HawaiiYou [ Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Chicago BBQ Ribs - where did they originate?

I've heard several stories about Chicago BBQ Ribs.

Story has it they originated from Kansas City and adopted in Chicago. Is that true? I sure for know they didnt originate from those shitty fall of the bone st.louis ribs. fucking disgusting how people can call that ribs.

Personally love a good old chicago baby back cooked right and has that bit of toughness when biting off the bone.

Author:  Nas [ Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:46 pm ]
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Definitely the south.

Author:  HawaiiYou [ Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:46 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
Definitely the south.


yes but where?

Author:  The Hawk [ Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:58 pm ]
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HawaiiYou wrote:
I've heard several stories about Chicago BBQ Ribs.

Story has it they originated from Kansas City and adopted in Chicago. Is that true? I sure for know they didnt originate from those shitty fall of the bone st.louis ribs. fucking disgusting how people can call that ribs.

Personally love a good old chicago baby back cooked right and has that bit of toughness when biting off the bone.


The pork ribs definitely originated in the Old World and were brought over to the New World by Spanish Explorers. Columbus himself brought over a dozen pigs over on one of his journeys to the new world. Best ribs to me and almost all steaks I have ever eaten is in Kansas City. Can't beat Midwest production of Beef and Pork.

Author:  The Hawk [ Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:01 pm ]
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HawaiiYou wrote:
Nas wrote:
Definitely the south.


yes but where?


Wherever the Spanish explorers landed and colonized. they combined some of the sauces and seasonings from the Caribbean Islands that they stopped at.

Author:  HawaiiYou [ Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:49 pm ]
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The Hawk wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
Nas wrote:
Definitely the south.


yes but where?


Wherever the Spanish explorers landed and colonized. they combined some of the sauces and seasonings from the Caribbean Islands that they stopped at.



i thought it was up from KC and Memphis. thats what i've always heard. i'm not sure though.

Author:  polster [ Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:43 pm ]
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The real Chicago Style ribs are mostly known for the Aquarium style smoker from many South Side Rib joints which I believe is unique to Chicago and not anywhere else.

Here is an article on the history: "The Story Of Chicago Barbecue And Guide To Chicago BBQ Restaurants"
https://amazingribs.com/barbecue-histor ... o-barbecue

Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:52 pm ]
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HawaiiYou wrote:
I've heard several stories about Chicago BBQ Ribs.

Story has it they originated from Kansas City and adopted in Chicago. Is that true? I sure for know they didnt originate from those shitty fall of the bone st.louis ribs. fucking disgusting how people can call that ribs.

Personally love a good old chicago baby back cooked right and has that bit of toughness when biting off the bone.

St. Louis ribs are better than Baby Back (although I enjoy both). They don't "fall off the bone" any more than baby backs...that's just a function of how they were cooked.

Author:  Regular Reader [ Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:35 pm ]
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
I've heard several stories about Chicago BBQ Ribs.

Story has it they originated from Kansas City and adopted in Chicago. Is that true? I sure for know they didnt originate from those shitty fall of the bone st.louis ribs. fucking disgusting how people can call that ribs.

Personally love a good old chicago baby back cooked right and has that bit of toughness when biting off the bone.

St. Louis ribs are better than Baby Back (although I enjoy both). They don't "fall off the bone" any more than baby backs...that's just a function of how they were cooked.

Imho there is nothing more disgusting than a fall off the bone rib. And that was how my parents made/make them.

Author:  Drunk Squirrel [ Thu Jun 18, 2020 5:08 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
I've heard several stories about Chicago BBQ Ribs.

Story has it they originated from Kansas City and adopted in Chicago. Is that true? I sure for know they didnt originate from those shitty fall of the bone st.louis ribs. fucking disgusting how people can call that ribs.

Personally love a good old chicago baby back cooked right and has that bit of toughness when biting off the bone.

St. Louis ribs are better than Baby Back (although I enjoy both). They don't "fall off the bone" any more than baby backs...that's just a function of how they were cooked.

Imho there is nothing more disgusting than a fall off the bone rib. And that was how my parents made/make them.


Always figured fall off the bone to be overcooked or something. Texture is all wrong to me. I’m not much a fan of St. Louis rib but all these things are a matter of taste.

Author:  Brick [ Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:21 pm ]
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Decatur.

Author:  Regular Reader [ Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:25 pm ]
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Drunk Squirrel wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
I've heard several stories about Chicago BBQ Ribs.

Story has it they originated from Kansas City and adopted in Chicago. Is that true? I sure for know they didnt originate from those shitty fall of the bone st.louis ribs. fucking disgusting how people can call that ribs.

Personally love a good old chicago baby back cooked right and has that bit of toughness when biting off the bone.

St. Louis ribs are better than Baby Back (although I enjoy both). They don't "fall off the bone" any more than baby backs...that's just a function of how they were cooked.

Imho there is nothing more disgusting than a fall off the bone rib. And that was how my parents made/make them.


Always figured fall off the bone to be overcooked or something. Texture is all wrong to me. I’m not much a fan of St. Louis rib but all these things are a matter of taste.

I just figured that they were for the people with bad/missing teeth.

And I haven't had a baby back rib in 30 years. Again, texture and flavor.

Author:  Drunk Squirrel [ Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:03 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
Drunk Squirrel wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
I've heard several stories about Chicago BBQ Ribs.

Story has it they originated from Kansas City and adopted in Chicago. Is that true? I sure for know they didnt originate from those shitty fall of the bone st.louis ribs. fucking disgusting how people can call that ribs.

Personally love a good old chicago baby back cooked right and has that bit of toughness when biting off the bone.

St. Louis ribs are better than Baby Back (although I enjoy both). They don't "fall off the bone" any more than baby backs...that's just a function of how they were cooked.

Imho there is nothing more disgusting than a fall off the bone rib. And that was how my parents made/make them.


Always figured fall off the bone to be overcooked or something. Texture is all wrong to me. I’m not much a fan of St. Louis rib but all these things are a matter of taste.

I just figured that they were for the people with bad/missing teeth.

And I haven't had a baby back rib in 30 years. Again, texture and flavor.


More and more I prefer chicken, pulled pork or brisket (if they have a good brisket) when I go places. Too many ribs I haven’t liked or that are just to damn sloppy. Even at go,e I’m more likely to do a shoulder or a belly these days although smoking a chicken right now.

Author:  pittmike [ Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:14 pm ]
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Another problem with ribs if they are not awesome is they really charge too much for them.

Author:  Chet Coppock's Fur Coat [ Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:35 pm ]
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Great ribs are life changing. Very good ribs are better then getting the chicken. Other ribs are just not worth the effort, get something else on the menu.

The best ribs I have had:
1. 12 Bones in Asheville NC
2. Joe's Kansas City. Not always, but I caught a perfect batch.
3. Jack Stack's Crown Ribs in KC. Essentially BBQ made with bone in prime rib. You buy them by the bone.

Now, in part because of the aquarium smokers, that's not true for Chicago rib tips. Even just above average rib tips are a good value.

Author:  HawaiiYou [ Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:50 pm ]
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Drunk Squirrel wrote:
Regular Reader wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
I've heard several stories about Chicago BBQ Ribs.

Story has it they originated from Kansas City and adopted in Chicago. Is that true? I sure for know they didnt originate from those shitty fall of the bone st.louis ribs. fucking disgusting how people can call that ribs.

Personally love a good old chicago baby back cooked right and has that bit of toughness when biting off the bone.

St. Louis ribs are better than Baby Back (although I enjoy both). They don't "fall off the bone" any more than baby backs...that's just a function of how they were cooked.

Imho there is nothing more disgusting than a fall off the bone rib. And that was how my parents made/make them.


Always figured fall off the bone to be overcooked or something. Texture is all wrong to me. I’m not much a fan of St. Louis rib but all these things are a matter of taste.


THIS!

Author:  HawaiiYou [ Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:58 pm ]
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i always have a soft place in my heart for Carsons back in the 80s. too bad they're gone now.

Author:  Regular Reader [ Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:14 pm ]
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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
Great ribs are life changing. Very good ribs are better then getting the chicken. Other ribs are just not worth the effort, get something else on the menu.

The best ribs I have had:
1. 12 Bones in Asheville NC
2. Joe's Kansas City. Not always, but I caught a perfect batch.
3. Jack Stack's Crown Ribs in KC. Essentially BBQ made with bone in prime rib. You buy them by the bone.

Now, in part because of the aquarium smokers, that's not true for Chicago rib tips. Even just above average rib tips are a good value.

Now this is Greek excellance!

Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:33 pm ]
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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
Great ribs are life changing. Very good ribs are better then getting the chicken. Other ribs are just not worth the effort, get something else on the menu.

The best ribs I have had:
1. 12 Bones in Asheville NC
2. Joe's Kansas City. Not always, but I caught a perfect batch.
3. Jack Stack's Crown Ribs in KC. Essentially BBQ made with bone in prime rib. You buy them by the bone.

Now, in part because of the aquarium smokers, that's not true for Chicago rib tips. Even just above average rib tips are a good value.

Smoked prime rib is fantastic. We do that 3 or 4 times per year. As long as you have a remote thermometer it’s an easy meat To wrk with as well.

Author:  Drunk Squirrel [ Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:39 pm ]
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
Great ribs are life changing. Very good ribs are better then getting the chicken. Other ribs are just not worth the effort, get something else on the menu.

The best ribs I have had:
1. 12 Bones in Asheville NC
2. Joe's Kansas City. Not always, but I caught a perfect batch.
3. Jack Stack's Crown Ribs in KC. Essentially BBQ made with bone in prime rib. You buy them by the bone.

Now, in part because of the aquarium smokers, that's not true for Chicago rib tips. Even just above average rib tips are a good value.

Smoked prime rib is fantastic. We do that 3 or 4 times per year. As long as you have a remote thermometer it’s an easy meat To wrk with as well.


Used to love cooking it over soaked hickory but a higher temp than a slow smoke, more a Smokey indirect grill. Loved it.. wife, not so much so I rarely do it.

Author:  Spaulding [ Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:39 pm ]
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Drunk Squirrel wrote:
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More and more I prefer chicken, pulled pork or brisket (if they have a good brisket) when I go places. Too many ribs I haven’t liked or that are just to damn sloppy. Even at go,e I’m more likely to do a shoulder or a belly these days although smoking a chicken right now.


Same.

Author:  HawaiiYou [ Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:45 pm ]
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Classic movie Rib Scene of all time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgHcYxKjwVE

Author:  Nas [ Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:20 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
I've heard several stories about Chicago BBQ Ribs.

Story has it they originated from Kansas City and adopted in Chicago. Is that true? I sure for know they didnt originate from those shitty fall of the bone st.louis ribs. fucking disgusting how people can call that ribs.

Personally love a good old chicago baby back cooked right and has that bit of toughness when biting off the bone.

St. Louis ribs are better than Baby Back (although I enjoy both). They don't "fall off the bone" any more than baby backs...that's just a function of how they were cooked.

Imho there is nothing more disgusting than a fall off the bone rib. And that was how my parents made/make them.


:shock: :shock: :shock:

Author:  Nas [ Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:22 pm ]
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HawaiiYou wrote:
Classic movie Rib Scene of all time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgHcYxKjwVE


Yep! We would have fought if this was a link to any other movie.

Author:  Rod [ Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:11 am ]
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What is meant by "Chicago BBQ Ribs" in the title of this thread? If Chicago has a signature barbecue style it would be the aquarium smoker, wouldn't it? Or is the OP referring to the Gale Street, Twin Anchors type of ribs that aren't real barbecue at all?

Author:  Regular Reader [ Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:12 am ]
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Drunk Squirrel wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
Great ribs are life changing. Very good ribs are better then getting the chicken. Other ribs are just not worth the effort, get something else on the menu.

The best ribs I have had:
1. 12 Bones in Asheville NC
2. Joe's Kansas City. Not always, but I caught a perfect batch.
3. Jack Stack's Crown Ribs in KC. Essentially BBQ made with bone in prime rib. You buy them by the bone.

Now, in part because of the aquarium smokers, that's not true for Chicago rib tips. Even just above average rib tips are a good value.

Smoked prime rib is fantastic. We do that 3 or 4 times per year. As long as you have a remote thermometer it’s an easy meat To wrk with as well.


Used to love cooking it over soaked hickory but a higher temp than a slow smoke, more a Smokey indirect grill. Loved it.. wife, not so much so I rarely do it.

I also do them 2-3x a year. Usually when my oldest son comes home. Of course his dog sits right next to me as it cooks, knowing that he'll be getting at least three primo bones.

Author:  good dolphin [ Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:44 am ]
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I don't like ribs. Sometimes I'll eat them if the sauce is great, kind of like buffalo wings from buffalo joes

Author:  shakes [ Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:44 am ]
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HawaiiYou wrote:
i always have a soft place in my heart for Carsons back in the 80s. too bad they're gone now.



Carsons is gone? That's news to the all the people lining up there to pick up food every night up here in Deerfield.

Author:  hnd [ Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:20 am ]
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i'd never had "chicago" style ribs before.

famous daves sauce was on sale at menards so i bought some of the "southside" sauce assuming it had something to do with chicago. a much spicier kc sauce. so i imagine it has KC roots.

we have a place in the QC called jims ribs who has a similar styling. his sauce though is the best kc bbq sauce i've ever had and i've been to gates, aurthur b's, and joes. my only issue is the qc place takes an opposite approach to fall off the bone to the far end. like gnawing on shoe leather. the sauce just happens to make the difference.

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:54 am ]
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hnd wrote:
i'd never had "chicago" style ribs before.

famous daves sauce was on sale at menards so i bought some of the "southside" sauce assuming it had something to do with chicago. a much spicier kc sauce. so i imagine it has KC roots.

we have a place in the QC called jims ribs who has a similar styling. his sauce though is the best kc bbq sauce i've ever had and i've been to gates, aurthur b's, and joes. my only issue is the qc place takes an opposite approach to fall off the bone to the far end. like gnawing on shoe leather. the sauce just happens to make the difference.

Famous Daves was actually founded in Hayward, WI.

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