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| Author: | Nas [ Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | You Make The Call |
Did this guy deserve 25 additional years? Shouldn't the prison be liable? https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/man ... 12821.html |
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| Author: | This Ends in Antioch [ Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
Should be given a medal or something. Assuming nobody was hurt in the initial car theft, he should’ve been immediately released on account of contributions to actual justice. |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
Murder is murder man. I mean I hear you I do but he killed a guy and that's no joke. Even if he was a shit bag. Not his place. Sorry. I know you won't like that answer. |
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| Author: | Hussra [ Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
What's a kid diddler doing in gen pop in the first place? Thought they put pedos and police in special needs units, away from the rest of the prisoners. Does seem like a setup. Dude should get a new lawyer and try to get his sentence reduced. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
Hussra wrote: What's a kid diddler doing in gen pop in the first place? Thought they put pedos and police in special needs units, away from the rest of the prisoners. Does seem like a setup. Dude should get a new lawyer and try to get his sentence reduced. Of course it was a setup. It's not a coincidence they put his sister's rapist in his cell and then repeatedly ignored him. They knew that he would do what nearly every man on the planet would do. |
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| Author: | Juice's Lecture Notes [ Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
Nas wrote: Hussra wrote: What's a kid diddler doing in gen pop in the first place? Thought they put pedos and police in special needs units, away from the rest of the prisoners. Does seem like a setup. Dude should get a new lawyer and try to get his sentence reduced. Of course it was a setup. It's not a coincidence they put his sister's rapist in his cell and then repeatedly ignored him. They knew that he would do what nearly every man on the planet would do. It seems like equating committing murder in cold blood with being a man might contribute to some of our larger societal woes. |
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| Author: | billypootons [ Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
Nas wrote: Hussra wrote: What's a kid diddler doing in gen pop in the first place? Thought they put pedos and police in special needs units, away from the rest of the prisoners. Does seem like a setup. Dude should get a new lawyer and try to get his sentence reduced. Of course it was a setup. It's not a coincidence they put his sister's rapist in his cell and then repeatedly ignored him. They knew that he would do what nearly every man on the planet would do. It's worth looking at emails and texts to see if they were dumb enough to give proof it was done on purpose |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
billypootons wrote: Nas wrote: Hussra wrote: What's a kid diddler doing in gen pop in the first place? Thought they put pedos and police in special needs units, away from the rest of the prisoners. Does seem like a setup. Dude should get a new lawyer and try to get his sentence reduced. Of course it was a setup. It's not a coincidence they put his sister's rapist in his cell and then repeatedly ignored him. They knew that he would do what nearly every man on the planet would do. It's worth looking at emails and texts to see if they were dumb enough to give proof it was done on purpose I have a neighbor who works in the prison system. This very likely was intentional. They look the other way, set up encounters... shit like that. It happens and it probably happened here. That don't excuse murder though. Just cause I leave out eggs and cinnamon and bread don't mean you have to make French toast. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Nas wrote: Hussra wrote: What's a kid diddler doing in gen pop in the first place? Thought they put pedos and police in special needs units, away from the rest of the prisoners. Does seem like a setup. Dude should get a new lawyer and try to get his sentence reduced. Of course it was a setup. It's not a coincidence they put his sister's rapist in his cell and then repeatedly ignored him. They knew that he would do what nearly every man on the planet would do. It seems like equating committing murder in cold blood with being a man might contribute to some of our larger societal woes. Maybe. We're emotional creatures. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
Darkside wrote: billypootons wrote: Nas wrote: Hussra wrote: What's a kid diddler doing in gen pop in the first place? Thought they put pedos and police in special needs units, away from the rest of the prisoners. Does seem like a setup. Dude should get a new lawyer and try to get his sentence reduced. Of course it was a setup. It's not a coincidence they put his sister's rapist in his cell and then repeatedly ignored him. They knew that he would do what nearly every man on the planet would do. It's worth looking at emails and texts to see if they were dumb enough to give proof it was done on purpose I have a neighbor who works in the prison system. This very likely was intentional. They look the other way, set up encounters... shit like that. It happens and it probably happened here. That don't excuse murder though. Just cause I leave out eggs and cinnamon and bread don't mean you have to make French toast. On one level I agree with you, but it's clear that the prison set this guy up and someone or a group in prison administration need a chunk of his new 25. If the jackass was bragging about it, he provoked it, which should be a mitigating factor. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
I'm going to climb out on a limb and say most people in prison aren't there because they have great self control. They knew that at best he would assault the man. |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
How would they know he raped his sister years before? |
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| Author: | Nas [ Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
conns7901 wrote: How would they know he raped his sister years before? That seems like knowledge the prison system would have. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
conns7901 wrote: How would they know he raped his sister years before? Even if wasn't on his sheet, the guy allegedly was telling them. |
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| Author: | The Great Northern [ Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
You give these guys the years but you give them pretty lavish digs in jail. A nicer mattress, access to television, more free time, better food, no cellmate (do they even have cellmates in prison?)...but the tradeoff is he pretty much never gets out and has to kill these pedo's and child rapists that come in the door. Not all of them, but the ones that really need to be dispatched from our mortal world. Clearly he has no issues taking a life, which means he cannot be in our normal society, but he should be accommodated within the system to ply his craft safely. There's a way to make this work for everyone. |
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| Author: | W_Z [ Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
christopher scarver got 2 life sentences tacked onto his prison sentence for killing jeffrey dahmer. if that guy wasn't getting out for doing a service, nobody will. |
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| Author: | a retard [ Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
The only reason he was in prison to begin with is because the cars he stole and smashed belonged to the police. If they were yours and mine he would have been handed a suspended sentence. |
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| Author: | Ogie Oglethorpe [ Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
If I'm on the jury for that case, I acquit |
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| Author: | Hussra [ Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
Prosecutor charged 1st degree, Goldsby pleaded to 2nd degree. Seems like a good lawyer could've gotten the charge down to a manslaughter plea. That's what the father who shot his son's molester in the airport ended up pleading to -- with a suspended sentence to boot. Goldsby's sister was underage at the time of the assault. Must've been really underage, cuz she's still referred to as being a minor after the killing. |
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| Author: | CDOM [ Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
He did a public service. I also think he was very restrained in his effort to kill him. WWIII would've happened had it been me, and that other guy raped my sister. |
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| Author: | Nardi [ Mon Aug 09, 2021 3:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
Just fit the charge to whatever 3 years in minimum security is. |
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| Author: | Cashman [ Mon Aug 09, 2021 3:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote: If I'm on the jury for that case, I acquit Sounds like a job for Jackie Chiles! |
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| Author: | vitoscotti [ Mon Aug 09, 2021 3:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
Build more prisons. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
Darkside wrote: Murder is murder man. I mean I hear you I do but he killed a guy and that's no joke. Even if he was a shit bag. Not his place. Sorry. I know you won't like that answer. This is the answer I would give on the telephone or conference room but I'd add something on as I walked you to the elevator. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
It's disgusting to me that we accept assaults as part of prison life. I assume they could be stopped if society didn't see it as the unspoken part of your sentence for a crime. |
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| Author: | Nardi [ Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
good dolphin wrote: It's disgusting to me that we accept assaults as part of prison life. I assume they could be stopped if society didn't see it as the unspoken part of your sentence for a crime. Prison's kinda filled with assaulters. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
good dolphin wrote: It's disgusting to me that we accept assaults as part of prison life. I assume they could be stopped if society didn't see it as the unspoken part of your sentence for a crime. What do you expect to happen in a prison? What do you think would happen if CFMB were physically confined to the same place for a month? |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
Nas wrote: What do you think would happen if CFMB were physically confined to the same place for a month? Caller Bob would not get Covid.
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| Author: | Darkside [ Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
Nas wrote: good dolphin wrote: It's disgusting to me that we accept assaults as part of prison life. I assume they could be stopped if society didn't see it as the unspoken part of your sentence for a crime. What do you expect to happen in a prison? What do you think would happen if CFMB were physically confined to the same place for a month? Lots of sticky... situations. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: You Make The Call |
Nas wrote: good dolphin wrote: It's disgusting to me that we accept assaults as part of prison life. I assume they could be stopped if society didn't see it as the unspoken part of your sentence for a crime. What do you expect to happen in a prison? What do you think would happen if CFMB were physically confined to the same place for a month? They are in other countries as well |
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