I cannot imagine there is any must see place in LA. They have rebuilt downtown quite a bit with some decent restaurants. There is this cool hotel call the Standard that has an interesting pool scene on the roof. And by interesting I mean, the boys are girls and the boys are girls. Looks like it is closed due to Covid.

https://www.standardhotels.com/la/prope ... owntown-la

I do not find SF to be a great tourist city. The wharf is decent to walk along. I would hit the wineries- Napa to the north and Monterey to the south. Personally I like the small Monterey wineries. Lots of quirky little places. Or Alcatraz and street cars…boring.

The thing about LA and all of SoCal is the weather and beaches are awesome. For all the flaws in that state, they have really protected the ocean and beaches. But LA is a traffic nightmare and really one big shithole.

San Diego is awesome. Personally, I love La Jolla. But the beaches up and down the coast are near perfect. You can keep downtown San Diego and its boring gaslight district. Stick to the different beaches. All free.

San Diego is awesome. Personally, I love La Jolla. But the beaches up and down the coast are near perfect. You can keep downtown San Diego and its boring gaslight district. Stick to the different beaches. All free.

I'm thinking about using my two week vacation time to go to the west coast. Besides the obvious stuff, what are some places I need to hit up? Need suggestions. Thanks.

I’m in San Francisco as I write this. We just spent 10 days in the area and it was great. The homeless issue mentioned in an earlier post is over-hyped (unless you’ve never been to a big city). Everyone told us how bad it is but it really wasn’t a big deal (DC was much worse). Also, the weather has been great. 60s and 70s every day near the ocean. Much warmer when you go inland though. We went south to Monterey and continued past Big Sur to Morro Bay. Awesome scenery the whole way. Headed to Yosemite from there and again it’s incredible. Spent 3 days in SF proper and loved it. It’s a beautiful, interesting (and certainly overpriced) city. It’s a truly unique place and well worth a visit. Food is fantastic. The areas north of SF are also beautiful (coast through Mendocino, Avenue of the Giants for redwoods, wine country). I’d highly recommend this part of your proposed trip. (We didn’t go that far south but I’m sure L.A. to S.F. is awesome if you stick to the Pacific Coast Highway).

I’m in San Francisco as I write this. We just spent 10 days in the area and it was great. The homeless issue mentioned in an earlier post is over-hyped (unless you’ve never been to a big city). Everyone told us how bad it is but it really wasn’t a big deal (DC was much worse). Also, the weather has been great. 60s and 70s every day near the ocean. Much warmer when you go inland though. We went south to Monterey and continued past Big Sur to Morro Bay. Awesome scenery the whole way. Headed to Yosemite from there and again it’s incredible. Spent 3 days in SF proper and loved it. It’s a beautiful, interesting (and certainly overpriced) city. It’s a truly unique place and well worth a visit. Food is fantastic. The areas north of SF are also beautiful (coast through Mendocino, Avenue of the Giants for redwoods, wine country). I’d highly recommend this part of your proposed trip. (We didn’t go that far south but I’m sure L.A. to S.F. is awesome if you stick to the Pacific Coast Highway).

I cannot imagine there is any must see place in LA. They have rebuilt downtown quite a bit with some decent restaurants. There is this cool hotel call the Standard that has an interesting pool scene on the roof. And by interesting I mean, the boys are girls and the boys are girls. Looks like it is closed due to Covid.

https://www.standardhotels.com/la/prope ... owntown-la

I do not find SF to be a great tourist city. The wharf is decent to walk along. I would hit the wineries- Napa to the north and Monterey to the south. Personally I like the small Monterey wineries. Lots of quirky little places. Or Alcatraz and street cars…boring.

The thing about LA and all of SoCal is the weather and beaches are awesome. For all the flaws in that state, they have really protected the ocean and beaches. But LA is a traffic nightmare and really one big shithole.

Thanks, guys.

I’m in San Francisco as I write this. We just spent 10 days in the area and it was great. The homeless issue mentioned in an earlier post is over-hyped (unless you’ve never been to a big city). Everyone told us how bad it is but it really wasn’t a big deal (DC was much worse). Also, the weather has been great. 60s and 70s every day near the ocean. Much warmer when you go inland though. We went south to Monterey and continued past Big Sur to Morro Bay. Awesome scenery the whole way. Headed to Yosemite from there and again it’s incredible. Spent 3 days in SF proper and loved it. It’s a beautiful, interesting (and certainly overpriced) city. It’s a truly unique place and well worth a visit. Food is fantastic. The areas north of SF are also beautiful (coast through Mendocino, Avenue of the Giants for redwoods, wine country). I’d highly recommend this part of your proposed trip. (We didn’t go that far south but I’m sure L.A. to S.F. is awesome if you stick to the Pacific Coast Highway).

how was the pussy there?

compared to say, Chicago?

I'm going to guess you stayed right by Fisherman's Wharf. We stayed there the first time and barely noticed the homeless issue about 5 years ago. We stayed closer to the Convention Center 3 years ago and it was the complete opposite experience. They were everywhere. I walked outside the hotel to see a cop having a discussion with a homeless person with his hand on his pepper spray. Stepped in human feces walking through a park. We were used to homeless walking around in New York but they seemed more aggressive. Lot of people having to cross the street to give some guy yelling space and these were people walking to and from work and not scared tourists.

All the tourist attractions are pretty awesome though but I don't think we'll be returning there again. The second trip wasn't nearly as enjoyable.

It's ridiculous to say that the homeless in LA and San Francisco are no different than in any major city. People are laying on the sidewalk staking claims for a spot for the night as soon as the sun starts going down. You have to walk over people laying on the ground or around tents. I saw a homeless woman wearing an apron take a shit on the steps of the San Francisco Mint at around 9 in the morning as someone was power washing the steps at the top.

It's not the same as other cities. Go to wine country.

Venice Beach is full of homeless. Use to be a fun place to visit in L.A. but now it's dangerous.