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I watched the Starved Rock Murders doc and I thought it was fascinating. But, I knew who all those people were.

My brother and I were trying to determine how it got on HBO.

It was interesting to us because we lived there. But, overall, I didn't find it that interesting as a story.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Do you know the nutty psychic they had in episode 3?

We go to Starved Rock from time to time so I suppose that's why it was interesting to us.
You think they had gotten the right guy?

You believe in psychics? Like that long Island medium broad or the psychics employed by that douchebaggins guy on Ghost Adventures.
My wife fuckin loves that long island medium. I think she's a nut job.
So im watching this HBO documentary about the Starved Rock Murders and they bring in a psychic and of course a deceased person of interest just so happened to be there causing a threatening feeling to her. She had her crystals and what not all laid out. Smelled like baloney.

Darkside wrote:

99.99999% of them are pure bullshit. the .000001% that truly have the gift are the ones WHO NEVER publicize it, try to make a buck off it, or tell anyone about it.

HawaiiYou wrote:

Darkside wrote:

99.99999% of them are pure bullshit. the .000001% that truly have the gift are the ones WHO NEVER publicize it, try to make a buck off it, or tell anyone about it.

So, how would you know those statistics if they never tell anyone?

HawaiiYou wrote:

Darkside wrote:

99.99999% of them are pure bullshit. the .000001% that truly have the gift are the ones WHO NEVER publicize it, try to make a buck off it, or tell anyone about it.

So, how would you know those statistics if they never tell anyone?

I predicted a tsunami.

But I would never tell anyone that.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

I predicted a tsunami.

But I would never tell anyone that.

After having typed that, I probably should have gotten louder about it considering it almost caused a global catastrophe and erased Japan off the planet.

That's on me.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

I predicted a tsunami.

But I would never tell anyone that.

After having typed that, I probably should have gotten louder about it considering it almost caused a global catastrophe and erased Japan off the planet.

That's on me.

From our research, I would say that's more intuition. A universal intuition as we called it. Not just you, but many others may have felt it.

what' i'm talking about ability that is much more precise.

I cannot believe this isn’t a HY post.

HawaiiYou wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

I predicted a tsunami.

But I would never tell anyone that.

After having typed that, I probably should have gotten louder about it considering it almost caused a global catastrophe and erased Japan off the planet.

That's on me.

I sensed an earthquake and 2 days later there was an earthquake that caused a massive tsunami.

It's documented here. Others here saw it.

That's not intuition. I can't predict what my wife wants for dinner.

But, I sensed that from nature.

One person had the ability to make someone else say what he was thinking. It was incredible to watch but hard to describe. Maybe it was a mind trick....we were not sure.

Doc playing cat and mouse games? Wtf?!?

Regular Reader wrote:

Doc playing cat and mouse games? Wtf?!?

Sounds like the kind of party guest you want to keep locked out on the patio.

Darkside wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Do you know the nutty psychic they had in episode 3?

We go to Starved Rock from time to time so I suppose that's why it was interesting to us.
You think they had gotten the right guy?

I don't know. Probably.

That's the thing. They didn't really present enough evidence to really convince you he didn't do it.

I always heard about it growing up but never knew much about the details.

So, if I had to guess, I think he probably did it.

Almost three years ago to the day I had a strong premonition, just as my wife and kids were driving away down our driveway, that she was going to get into a serious car accident. I started freaking out and went running down the driveway after her, but she didn't notice. 15 minutes later she called me to let me know that she had just gotten into a head-on collision with a driver who was texting on her phone, veered over to the wrong side of the road, and almost sent her car hurtling down a steep decline. The car was totaled but she and the kids didn't have any serious injuries.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Darkside wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Do you know the nutty psychic they had in episode 3?

We go to Starved Rock from time to time so I suppose that's why it was interesting to us.
You think they had gotten the right guy?

I watched the documentary after reading your guys discussions. A lot of crazy turns and such. It is hard for me to believe that he did it by himself. He was caught in a ton of lies. I tend to think the Jansen guy who they showed at the end was onto more of the right story. Maybe Chester was in on the deal in some way, but I dont see how he could have done all that himself and got the bodies up onto that ledge. Will be interesting to see what the DNA evidence is able to show.

RFDC wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Darkside wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Do you know the nutty psychic they had in episode 3?

We go to Starved Rock from time to time so I suppose that's why it was interesting to us.
You think they had gotten the right guy?

That was what my brother and I were talking about. Why release it now?

The story will end next year. My thought was if it comes out it was him, the doc isn’t all that intriguing.

Author:	Darkside [ Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:06 pm ]
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You believe in psychics? Like that long Island medium broad or the psychics employed by that douchebaggins guy on Ghost Adventures. My wife fuckin loves that long island medium. I think she's a nut job. So im watching this HBO documentary about the Starved Rock Murders and they bring in a psychic and of course a deceased person of interest just so happened to be there causing a threatening feeling to her. She had her crystals and what not all laid out. Smelled like baloney.

Author:	Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:16 pm ]
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I watched the Starved Rock Murders doc and I thought it was fascinating. But, I knew who all those people were. My brother and I were trying to determine how it got on HBO. It was interesting to us because we lived there. But, overall, I didn't find it that interesting as a story.

Author:	Darkside [ Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:17 pm ]
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: I watched the Starved Rock Murders doc and I thought it was fascinating. But, I knew who all those people were. My brother and I were trying to determine how it got on HBO. It was interesting to us because we lived there. But, overall, I didn't find it that interesting as a story. Do you know the nutty psychic they had in episode 3? We go to Starved Rock from time to time so I suppose that's why it was interesting to us. You think they had gotten the right guy?

Author:	Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:18 pm ]
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I foresee a Jbills post coming.

Author:	Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:24 pm ]
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Darkside wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: I watched the Starved Rock Murders doc and I thought it was fascinating. But, I knew who all those people were. My brother and I were trying to determine how it got on HBO. It was interesting to us because we lived there. But, overall, I didn't find it that interesting as a story. Do you know the nutty psychic they had in episode 3? We go to Starved Rock from time to time so I suppose that's why it was interesting to us. You think they had gotten the right guy? I don't know. Probably. That's the thing. They didn't really present enough evidence to really convince you he didn't do it. I always heard about it growing up but never knew much about the details. So, if I had to guess, I think he probably did it.

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Author:	HawaiiYou [ Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:25 pm ]
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Darkside wrote: You believe in psychics? Like that long Island medium broad or the psychics employed by that douchebaggins guy on Ghost Adventures. My wife fuckin loves that long island medium. I think she's a nut job. So im watching this HBO documentary about the Starved Rock Murders and they bring in a psychic and of course a deceased person of interest just so happened to be there causing a threatening feeling to her. She had her crystals and what not all laid out. Smelled like baloney. 99.99999% of them are pure bullshit. the .000001% that truly have the gift are the ones WHO NEVER publicize it, try to make a buck off it, or tell anyone about it.

Author:	Seacrest [ Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:28 pm ]
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: HawaiiYou wrote: Darkside wrote: You believe in psychics? Like that long Island medium broad or the psychics employed by that douchebaggins guy on Ghost Adventures. My wife fuckin loves that long island medium. I think she's a nut job. So im watching this HBO documentary about the Starved Rock Murders and they bring in a psychic and of course a deceased person of interest just so happened to be there causing a threatening feeling to her. She had her crystals and what not all laid out. Smelled like baloney. 99.99999% of them are pure bullshit. the .000001% that truly have the gift are the ones WHO NEVER publicize it, try to make a buck off it, or tell anyone about it. So, how would you know those statistics if they never tell anyone?

Author:	HawaiiYou [ Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:29 pm ]
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: HawaiiYou wrote: Darkside wrote: You believe in psychics? Like that long Island medium broad or the psychics employed by that douchebaggins guy on Ghost Adventures. My wife fuckin loves that long island medium. I think she's a nut job. So im watching this HBO documentary about the Starved Rock Murders and they bring in a psychic and of course a deceased person of interest just so happened to be there causing a threatening feeling to her. She had her crystals and what not all laid out. Smelled like baloney. 99.99999% of them are pure bullshit. the .000001% that truly have the gift are the ones WHO NEVER publicize it, try to make a buck off it, or tell anyone about it. So, how would you know those statistics if they never tell anyone? ive done research for several decades on this subject. they will tell you one on one in private, but not publicly. The group I was with had a series of tests we can to test their ability. I can't get much into it. It's been almost 20 years now since we did the research. But the ones that have the gift understand it's a gift.

Author:	HawaiiYou [ Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:37 pm ]
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: I predicted a tsunami. But I would never tell anyone that. After having typed that, I probably should have gotten louder about it considering it almost caused a global catastrophe and erased Japan off the planet. That's on me. From our research, I would say that's more intuition. A universal intuition as we called it. Not just you, but many others may have felt it. what' i'm talking about ability that is much more precise.

Author:	This Ends in Antioch [ Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:38 pm ]
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I cannot believe this isn’t a HY post.

Author:	HawaiiYou [ Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:40 pm ]
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This Ends in Antioch wrote: I cannot believe this isn’t a HY post. Darkside has expanded his horizons during these pandemic times.... he's become more of a worldy person.

Author:	HawaiiYou [ Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:42 pm ]
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: HawaiiYou wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: I predicted a tsunami. But I would never tell anyone that. After having typed that, I probably should have gotten louder about it considering it almost caused a global catastrophe and erased Japan off the planet. That's on me. From our research, I would say that's more intuition. A universal intuition as we called it. Not just you, but many others may have felt it. what' i'm talking about ability that is much more precise. I sensed an earthquake and 2 days later there was an earthquake that caused a massive tsunami. It's documented here. Others here saw it. That's not intuition. I can't predict what my wife wants for dinner. But, I sensed that from nature. Yes, but was it a one time thing or did it stay with you through your life? That's the big difference. Some of these people have the ability to turn it on and off. It was amazing. One person had the ability to make someone else say what he was thinking. It was incredible to watch but hard to describe. Maybe it was a mind trick....we were not sure. But he was able to interject his thoughts to someone talking about a completely different unrelated topic. Anyway...i haven't gone back to researching this for 20 years. That group broke up too. But the ones that advertise on TV probably aren't true.

Author:	Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:05 am ]
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HawaiiYou wrote: One person had the ability to make someone else say what he was thinking. It was incredible to watch but hard to describe. Maybe it was a mind trick....we were not sure. Here's a great "mentalist trick". It works more often than you'd think but usually about 1 out of 12 times or so. But, when it does, you freak people out. Ask a person - and speak slowly to think of a playing card, the exact card and the suit, really get it your mind.......make sure you can picture in your mind.... Let them tell you they have it. "Is it the Ace of Spades?" A significant number of people would choose that because it is one of the easiest cards to picture in your mind and remember. You can freak somebody out at your next party. If we are still allowed to have parties. Your next Zoom call.

Author:	Wayne Kerr [ Fri Dec 24, 2021 1:06 am ]
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Believe it or not, I was a "messenger" in college. "Messaging" is like--like--a cross between being a psychic and using one of those weird ouija boards. (Any real psychics are not psychics but messengers. Ask them. And ouija boards are not at all real.) Messaging is a way to hooking on to an energy that is always floating above us and is comprised of collected human memory. Think of it like an old streetcar; they used to have a hook that caught on to a line running below the street, and that propelled them forward. It's the same concept, except it's extremely difficult to hook onto a current (messengers use the German word strom to describe this) and to hook on to the right one. Sometimes you manage to hook on, but you find yourself listening to the musings of a fourteenth-century jousting columnist. This is why today's "psychics" (they are really messengers) are sometimes right--and sometimes way, way off. I did this for about three years. There's nothing Satanic or anything like that. But I uncovered a lot of strange truths. For instance, it's pretty well known that the majority of the Israeli armed forces--the men, I mean--are . . . other than straight. Also, Shoeless Joe took the dough re mi--but he played to win and gave the money to the Choctaw Nation. Text me off-list if you want to hear more. It's basically what any good psychic knows, except they keep the tools of the trade a secret. But knowledge wants to be free.

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Author:	Regular Reader [ Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:43 am ]
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Doc playing cat and mouse games? Wtf?!?

Author:	Tall Midget [ Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:18 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote: Doc playing cat and mouse games? Wtf?!? Sounds like the kind of party guest you want to keep locked out on the patio.

Author:	Tall Midget [ Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:39 pm ]
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Almost three years ago to the day I had a strong premonition, just as my wife and kids were driving away down our driveway, that she was going to get into a serious car accident. I started freaking out and went running down the driveway after her, but she didn't notice. 15 minutes later she called me to let me know that she had just gotten into a head-on collision with a driver who was texting on her phone, veered over to the wrong side of the road, and almost sent her car hurtling down a steep decline. The car was totaled but she and the kids didn't have any serious injuries.

Author:	RFDC [ Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:42 pm ]
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Darkside wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: I watched the Starved Rock Murders doc and I thought it was fascinating. But, I knew who all those people were. My brother and I were trying to determine how it got on HBO. It was interesting to us because we lived there. But, overall, I didn't find it that interesting as a story. Do you know the nutty psychic they had in episode 3? We go to Starved Rock from time to time so I suppose that's why it was interesting to us. You think they had gotten the right guy? I don't know. Probably. That's the thing. They didn't really present enough evidence to really convince you he didn't do it. I always heard about it growing up but never knew much about the details. So, if I had to guess, I think he probably did it. I watched the documentary after reading your guys discussions. A lot of crazy turns and such. It is hard for me to believe that he did it by himself. He was caught in a ton of lies. I tend to think the Jansen guy who they showed at the end was onto more of the right story. Maybe Chester was in on the deal in some way, but I dont see how he could have done all that himself and got the bodies up onto that ledge. Will be interesting to see what the DNA evidence is able to show.

Author:	IkeSouth [ Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:43 pm ]
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everything is connected. i think everyone has the ability of some sort of telepathy, but we arent evolved enough to use it on command yet.

Author:	RFDC [ Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:47 pm ]
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Tall Midget wrote: Almost three years ago to the day I had a strong premonition, just as my wife and kids were driving away down our driveway, that she was going to get into a serious car accident. I started freaking out and went running down the driveway after her, but she didn't notice. 15 minutes later she called me to let me know that she had just gotten into a head-on collision with a driver who was texting on her phone, veered over to the wrong side of the road, and almost sent her car hurtling down a steep decline. The car was totaled but she and the kids didn't have any serious injuries. I have had a couple moments like this in my life. Really hard to explain, but there is clearly something there that works at another level.

Author:	RFDC [ Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:55 pm ]
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: RFDC wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Darkside wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: I watched the Starved Rock Murders doc and I thought it was fascinating. But, I knew who all those people were. My brother and I were trying to determine how it got on HBO. It was interesting to us because we lived there. But, overall, I didn't find it that interesting as a story. Do you know the nutty psychic they had in episode 3? We go to Starved Rock from time to time so I suppose that's why it was interesting to us. You think they had gotten the right guy? I don't know. Probably. That's the thing. They didn't really present enough evidence to really convince you he didn't do it. I always heard about it growing up but never knew much about the details. So, if I had to guess, I think he probably did it. I watched the documentary after reading your guys discussions. A lot of crazy turns and such. It is hard for me to believe that he did it by himself. He was caught in a ton of lies. I tend to think the Jansen guy who they showed at the end was onto more of the right story. Maybe Chester was in on the deal in some way, but I dont see how he could have done all that himself and got the bodies up onto that ledge. Will be interesting to see what the DNA evidence is able to show. That was what my brother and I were talking about. Why release it now? The story will end next year. My thought was if it comes out it was him, the doc isn’t all that intriguing. On another note David Raccuglia had a Wynn Duffy vibe going on. I kept waiting for Raylan and Boyd to make an appearance