If you were content in a job, how much of a pay increase would it take you to switch jobs?

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30K

Just pay or better title? Drive the same? New company as solid as current company? Would need to be a decent bump if content in current job for me. Can probably leverage the offer to get more from current place

Can't leverage an increase from current job due to union contract.

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i had this conversation with an old time friend last year right before I got sick. I will share with you to see if it helps.

He works for the University of Minnesota and pretty much has a job for life. He's been w/ the University for 25 years and is in some kind of science job. His commute to work is a 5 min bike ride - except in the winter if the weather gets bad. It's a 9-5 job and since he's more in a senior position and is an older guy, he can come and go as he pleases at his job. His salary isn't much when you look at it #'s wise, but it's enough to live comfortably in Minnesota. 5 figures, guessing like 50/60k. The school takes care of all his health insurance for free. He has 2 kids that already graduated college.

His current job is stress free and his life is stress free.

He called me last year saying one of his old colleagues got a big wig job in San Diego at a biotech startup company. He had a fancy director position meaning he was probably making 6 figures easy. He asked my friend to move out to San Diego and work for him. It would be a big jump in salary. Like $25-30K. Probably more but that's what he told me. The friend flew him out to SD to have a look and he was wined and dined. He Was impressed with SD, the weather, things to do, etc... But when it came to the actual job, he met the people who he had to work with and the responsibilities and he knew it was going to be a stressful job. His read on the people he had to report to - he said he felt like they were looking down on him - because he was going to be hired only because he knew the boss. And also they thought he was just a farm hick .

So I gave him this advice - does the extra 30K in salary make up for -

1.Job for Life
2.No Stress at work.
3.No commute - not sitting thru traffic for hours.
4.Free Health Insurance
5.Not having to reinvent yourself, proving yourself to others who it sounds like you'll never win over, and dealing with office politics at a whole other level.

He decided to not take the job and Stay in Minnesota.

None of that happened.


Good luck, conns

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I rcently changed jobs but I wasnt content, hated my boss, commute was awful but was very secure. I switched and in the union so pay was similar but with a few less perks. I could not be happier and have really enjoyed going to work. I am guessing that there has to be some reason that you would consider switching other than money. I have switched jobs for what I thought was a better package but turned out not to be. If you truly are content and are happy where you are at I would put it at about a 50% pay increase to take a chance. There is nothing worse than going to a job you hate.

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Mulli is Howard Stern in his prime compared to Haugh.

Something that’ll have a meaningful impact on your life, whatever that number is.

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Being happy in the work you are doing is worth far more than a chunk increase. I love what I do, ...I have anxiety (even after nearly 40 years), but that comes with the territory, and I wouldn't do anything else...but you have to love what you do, money alone won't make you happy....it's that simple

Had a co-worker take a teaching job in a district closer to home with a $20,000 a year raise as they honored all her years and education on their contract...first year shes taught 8th Grade Science.

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An unjust law is no law at all--St. Augustine of Hippo

Cause tried and true
I see the light in you
Oh, can you dig in my soul?
Could you smell my whole...
life?--Gener and Deaner

If you looked or listened, you weren't content enough. Take the money.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Every 10 percent raise is one to two years earlier you can retire. Is that important to you?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

HIGHLY disagree there.

It never is a bad thing to keep your eyes and ears open, as the potential new situation may be significantly better overall, OR that current “content, secure” position could be gone by next Monday.

Having said that, without knowing the specifics, I can’t give conns any real advice.

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Not a mult.

Try to find a way to spend time "shadowing", or try to get a feel for the culture/environment by listening and watching how the staff interacts with each other.

Have numerous colleagues who have taken NP or PA jobs in a practice where on call almost 24/7 and moved back into lower pay positions for a better, and this is the HR jargon we hear all the time "work life balance".

Have another good friend that took a director level job and got to see the inner workings of upper management and quickly moved on once he realized the top levels of the organization was weak and ineffective, he is much happier in a larger downtown hospital where the leaders are a bit more visionary and proactive.

There are a multitude of factory to consider and it really depends on where you are personally and professionally at the time of the move. I chose not to take another position a few years ago and it worked out very well as my current employer offered me a bonus and pay match which I decided to accept. Still get recruiting stuff all the time, but at this point it would take me away from daily patient interaction which is one aspect of my job I enjoy.

if it's all about money and benefits, you need to get poached by a competitor and not quit your current job and then apply at the competitor. network and make connections with competitor(s), while still employed. could get a 20% bump in pay and better benefits. if you quit and then apply, they will definitely offer less.

Solid advice there.

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i turned down a 40k increase because the job required to sign in at the front door... like the visitor sign in took me 20 minutes and im fairly sure my future kids belong to them now. i still made the interview on time but i already knew i hated the place. i basically pulled an office space, acted like it was all small potatoes to me and i could do the job in my sleep. which actually i could but thats besides the point i would have hated my life. they sent me an email the next day saying i got the job. i turned it down and i regret it because 40k is a fuck ton of money for a piece of shit like me.

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the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.

Typically 30%……

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Hawaii (fuck) You

There are very few things that can upend your life more than a bad work situation. You can double my salary, but if it's going to mean working crazy hours in a high stress environment with a bunch of people who don't have my back, I would gladly take the 50% pay cut to go back to my old job.

Although, I believe you're a teacher, so I have to imagine that the working hours would be about the same no matter where you go. Also, most schools in this area seem big enough that you can find someone that you get on with, even if you don't like absolutely everyone with whom you work.

Linkedin/recruiters contact my husband a couple times a week or so. Occasionally he'll talk to them or check one out. He switched jobs a few years ago for a big jump in pay and is going to look for a new one soon even if it means a big decrease in pay. His boss is challenging and the money isn't worth the stress.

When you're young, I think that you can change jobs once or even twice a year. Sometimes within the same company. I also found out that when you are thinking about changing companies, look beyond the job you are considering. What is the next step? How old is your immediate supervisor? But as you get older, money and health and security become more important than promotion and money. everything is relative.

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Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Thinking how woke the company is is an important consideration

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I'm not good with this Ike. Don't put yourself down like this. You are a valuble person on this earth, remember that. And if this was caused by the posters here who always shit on you, well fuck them. Don't let them bring you down or lose your confidence. I won't name names but there are some killers on here. Let it roll off your back. I don't take anything they say about me seriously. you should do the same.

you may not think about it, but you are important to someone out there. Even maybe like a viewer on these forums that never posts. Hell, you're important to me! at least there's 1 person see!

Keep you head up pal! I'm there for you if you need help!

How many different personalities do you have? I think I've identified 4 so far myself.

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

And all of them suck ass.

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Is it more woke for a company to hire a white male as its Chief Diversity Officer? Because at most companies, that job is restricted to a minority or a woman. Having a white male would indicate they are open to changing the norm and being more inclusive.

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"All crowds boycotting football games shouldn't care who sings or takes a knee because they aren't watching." - Nas

I like the way you're thinking. Then they can blame the white guy when they need to downsize that department.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Just one. Like everyone else in the world, I'm a complex person.

What's wrong w/ trying to help someone? Sometimes I don't get this place.

Have interesting discussions every single day with my younger staff members about changing jobs, they have a much different set of criteria when looking for a job, work/life balance is way more important than pay, many of them have no interest in moving into supervisory roles, and none of them want the 24/7 accountability that comes with higher level positions. In fact, many of our management slots had zero internal candidate applicants because the younger people wanted nothing to do with the hours and do not want to have to supervise the older employees.

It will really be interesting to see how the work world works in 10-15 years. People will be much more efficient due to technology, but work days will look much different.

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need