IkeSouth wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
How about we suckered punch them both?
i will if i can use your face to do it
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| Author: | IkeSouth [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
Which one would you sucker punch first LIGHT EM UP |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
Donavan is worse. The Bulls have fallen off a cliff and you can't point to one young player that he's developed. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
The Flaw is undevelopable |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
Flus is a way worse coach and it is not even close. At least Donovan has done something as a head coach even if it was in college. And he can talk like a competent guy. Flus has done nothing and is a babbling fool |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
RFDC wrote: Flus is a way worse coach and it is not even close. At least Donovan has done something as a head coach even if it was in college. And he can talk like a competent guy. Flus has done nothing and is a babbling fool Players have developed under Eberflus's watch. The Bears have one of the better defenses in the league. The Bulls haven't improved in any way or developed a player. Some people lose the coaching touch earlier than others. |
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| Author: | This Ends in Antioch [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
Billy Donovan is what Eberflus thinks he sees when he looks in the mirror. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
Nas wrote: RFDC wrote: Flus is a way worse coach and it is not even close. At least Donovan has done something as a head coach even if it was in college. And he can talk like a competent guy. Flus has done nothing and is a babbling fool Players have developed under Eberflus's watch. The Bears have one of the better defenses in the league. The Bulls haven't improved in any way or developed a player. Some people lose the coaching touch earlier than others. Yet he is going to be fired in a few weeks. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
RFDC wrote: Nas wrote: RFDC wrote: Flus is a way worse coach and it is not even close. At least Donovan has done something as a head coach even if it was in college. And he can talk like a competent guy. Flus has done nothing and is a babbling fool Players have developed under Eberflus's watch. The Bears have one of the better defenses in the league. The Bulls haven't improved in any way or developed a player. Some people lose the coaching touch earlier than others. Yet he is going to be fired in a few weeks. They both should be fired in few weeks. Billy D can take AK and the invisible GM with him. |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
In an ideal world you demote Eberflus to DC when you hire Harbaugh and both partries are gracious, Harbaugh accepts Flus as DC and Flus accepts he's not a head coach in this league and agrees to be DC |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
Caller Bob wrote: In an ideal world you demote Eberflus to DC when you hire Harbaugh and both partries are gracious, Harbaugh accepts Flus as DC and Flus accepts he's not a head coach in this league. why would you want that? I thought you hated Flus style of D? |
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| Author: | Caller Bob [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
RFDC wrote: Caller Bob wrote: In an ideal world you demote Eberflus to DC when you hire Harbaugh and both partries are gracious, Harbaugh accepts Flus as DC and Flus accepts he's not a head coach in this league. why would you want that? I thought you hated Flus style of D? It's been better of late, he's also seems to be running less Cover Who |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
Getsy is the guy who can't point to any improvement of his unit, even with an improved offensive line and DJ Moore. |
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| Author: | IkeSouth [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
i think eberflus gave up on fields and the offense as a whole. It's like he figured if the ship is going down, at least leave the team with a good defense. with donovan, its like he has closed door meetings with jerry where they both blame the players for everything. but what lasting quality will donovan leave behind? it might sound like he talks competently, but that is the mark of a seasoned boss. eberflus talks with the same political background. it sounds great, but they really aren't saying shit. the players notice this crap. both of them cant help themselves. at the end of the day, i honestly think you could swap the two guys and the teams would still perform exactly the same because theyre not in organizations that fit them anyway. If you gave donovan real all-star players, he would look like a great coach. If you gave Eberflus a real quarterback, the bears would be division leaders. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
How about we sucker punch them both? |
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| Author: | IkeSouth [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
Douchebag wrote: How about we suckered punch them both? i will if i can use your face to do it |
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| Author: | Seacrest [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 1:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
IkeSouth wrote: Douchebag wrote: How about we suckered punch them both? i will if i can use your face to do it
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| Author: | The Hawk [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
Nas wrote: RFDC wrote: Flus is a way worse coach and it is not even close. At least Donovan has done something as a head coach even if it was in college. And he can talk like a competent guy. Flus has done nothing and is a babbling fool Players have developed under Eberflus's watch. The Bears have one of the better defenses in the league. The Bulls haven't improved in any way or developed a player. Some people lose the coaching touch earlier than others. I will give Flus some credit for the improvement of the defense. especially with the addition of Sweat and the drafting of the new guys in the secondary.This will be a fun defense to watch next season |
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| Author: | Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 4:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
Nas wrote: The Bears have one of the better defenses in the league. Do they though? They look great against bad qbs, but look at the rest of the results. Overall, Cousins (in Mid-October) was the only decent QB they held in check. Even the belief of recent improvement is a bit suspect considering 3 of their last 5 opponents have scored 24+ pts. The other 2 games were against Young and Dobbs.
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 4:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: Nas wrote: The Bears have one of the better defenses in the league. Do they though? They look great against bad qbs, but look at the rest of the results. Overall, Cousins (in Mid-October) was the only decent QB they held in check. Even the belief of recent improvement is a bit suspect considering 3 of their last 5 opponents have scored 24+ pts. The other 2 games were against Young and Dobbs.The offense turned the ball over five times, and the Bears barely lost one of those games. The offense has been the problem. The defense forced nine turnovers in the past two games. I believe we've only scored 10 points off of those turnovers. Even shorthanded, we should have won all but the Chargers game because the defense was good. Despite the early season shit show, we're still 9th in total yards, and we have the best rushing defense in the NFL by a mile. |
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| Author: | This Ends in Antioch [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 4:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: Nas wrote: The Bears have one of the better defenses in the league. Do they though? They look great against bad qbs, but look at the rest of the results. Overall, Cousins (in Mid-October) was the only decent QB they held in check. Even the belief of recent improvement is a bit suspect considering 3 of their last 5 opponents have scored 24+ pts. The other 2 games were against Young and Dobbs.They definitely do not but I think they’re approaching average to slightly above average. That’s pretty exciting given where they were last year. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 4:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
This Ends in Antioch wrote: Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: Nas wrote: The Bears have one of the better defenses in the league. Do they though? They look great against bad qbs, but look at the rest of the results. Overall, Cousins (in Mid-October) was the only decent QB they held in check. Even the belief of recent improvement is a bit suspect considering 3 of their last 5 opponents have scored 24+ pts. The other 2 games were against Young and Dobbs.They definitely do not but I think they’re approaching average to slightly above average. That’s pretty exciting given where they were last year. The rushing defense is the best in the NFL. The overall defense is 9th in yards. I would call that above average. The pass defense is the biggest problem. |
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| Author: | Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
Nas wrote: Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: Nas wrote: The Bears have one of the better defenses in the league. Do they though? They look great against bad qbs, but look at the rest of the results. Overall, Cousins (in Mid-October) was the only decent QB they held in check. Even the belief of recent improvement is a bit suspect considering 3 of their last 5 opponents have scored 24+ pts. The other 2 games were against Young and Dobbs.The offense turned the ball over five times, and the Bears barely lost one of those games. The offense has been the problem. The defense forced nine turnovers in the past two games. I believe we've only scored 10 points off of those turnovers. Even shorthanded, we should have won all but the Chargers game because the defense was good. Despite the early season shit show, we're still 9th in total yards, and we have the best rushing defense in the NFL by a mile. I agree that the offense has been a bigger problem. I am questioning your ranking of the Bears defense. I think Antioch has it about right. |
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| Author: | a retard [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
Through week 12: Total defense: #9 Passing defense: #23 Rushing defense: #1 Scoring defense: #28 Red Zone defense: #32 Third Down defense: #31 https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/ ... rush-stats |
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| Author: | IkeSouth [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
Rushing defense really draws down that curve |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 7:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
IkeSouth wrote: Rushing defense really draws down that curve I'm not sure there has been a team that has had the best rushing defense in NFL even though they had one of the worst records in football. |
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| Author: | IkeSouth [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 8:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
Yea and theres only one explanation for that. |
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| Author: | Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 9:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
Nas wrote: IkeSouth wrote: Rushing defense really draws down that curve I'm not sure there has been a team that has had the best rushing defense in NFL even though they had one of the worst records in football. Yeah it’s weird that teams consistently seem choose to pass against them, take a lead, run out the clock and then end up winning. Crazy. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Nov 30, 2023 10:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: Nas wrote: IkeSouth wrote: Rushing defense really draws down that curve I'm not sure there has been a team that has had the best rushing defense in NFL even though they had one of the worst records in football. Yeah it’s weird that teams consistently seem choose to pass against them, take a lead, run out the clock and then end up winning. Crazy. Teams run more when they're winning. That doesn't happen to the Bears because our run defense is the best in the league by a mile. What are your Packers #1 in? |
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| Author: | Clawmaster [ Fri Dec 01, 2023 4:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
They have only played against a few top QB's, and mostly bottom half rushing teams, but there does seem to be the makings of a decent secondary, especially after they launch Eddie Jackson, a solid group of linebackers, and defensive line that will be solid after they sign another DE to play opposite Sweat. They run the ball well, if they just could develop a solid passing game....well that's what is holding this team back. |
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| Author: | Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Fri Dec 01, 2023 4:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Donavon vs Matt Eberflus |
Nas wrote: What are your Packers #1 in? Bears beating.
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