If Rudy follows through and blows this does his campaign go down as one of the most misguided & largest waste of $ in U.S history. Not that it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
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| Author: | sportsfan [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:57 pm ] |
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Who do you think will win tonight? You're predicted winner, not who you would rather see win. |
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| Author: | sportsfan [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:27 pm ] |
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That works for me! |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:35 pm ] |
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Nas wrote: I think Romney will win even though I want McCain to win.
+1 I see Rudy coming in third. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:48 pm ] |
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If Rudy follows through and blows this does his campaign go down as one of the most misguided & largest waste of $ in U.S history. Not that it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
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| Author: | Hawkeye Vince [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:51 pm ] |
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Regular Reader wrote: If Rudy follows through and blows this does his campaign go down as one of the most misguided & largest waste of $ in U.S history. Not that it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
Yes, I'm sure it will be up there with other campaigns that were misguided though if Obama edges Clinton for the nomination - I'm sure people will forget Rudy's bid and Hillary's will trump it. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:01 pm ] |
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Hawkeye Vince wrote: Yes, I'm sure it will be up there with other campaigns that were misguided though if Obama edges Clinton for the nomination - I'm sure people will forget Rudy's bid and Hillary's will trump it.
While Hillary's campaign has been pedestrian at best, I don't think many really foresaw the increase in voting percentages that seems to be her greatest enemy. She never attempted to (nor could) be an inspirational/good speaker, and it's not exactly as if she can be the candidate for 'change' for whatever that means. She probably never will be able to move the masses, even Democratic ones. You do have to wonder though about an anti-NY bias that will get trumpeted (if Clinton & Giuliani go down) and what impact if any that will have on the shadow candidacy of Bloomberg. |
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| Author: | sportsfan [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:03 pm ] |
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Exit Polls in the Naples area: Republican presidential primary Mitt Romney - 92 John McCain - 59 Rudy Giuliani - 32 Mike Huckabee - 13 Fred Thompson – 3 Ron Paul - 1 |
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| Author: | Hawkeye Vince [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:03 pm ] |
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Didn't the rise in voter percentage help her husband many moons ago with the Rock the Vote stuff? If anyone could see it coming, it should have been her. |
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| Author: | Hawkeye Vince [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:05 pm ] |
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Regular Reader wrote: You do have to wonder though about an anti-NY bias that will get trumpeted (if Clinton & Giuliani go down) and what impact if any that will have on the shadow candidacy of Bloomberg.
Who does Bloomberg hurt more? McCain/Romney or Obama/Clinton? Does Bloomberg put in a typical independent performance or perot like and tip the election to one side? |
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| Author: | Spaulding [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:05 pm ] |
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Quote: You do have to wonder though about an anti-NY bias that will get trumpeted (if Clinton & Giuliani go down) and what impact if any that will have on the shadow candidacy of Bloomberg. I don't think most people will connect them to NY as the reason they are losing. I dislike them both, as do many others, but it has nothing to do with NY.
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| Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:06 pm ] |
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Hawkeye Vince wrote: Didn't the rise in voter percentage help her husband many moons ago with the Rock the Vote stuff? If anyone could see it coming, it should have been her.
Yes, Bill was young and hip. He went on MTV and pointed his thumb at us using a sensitive tone. He even played Fleetwood Mac music. |
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| Author: | Hawkeye Vince [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:09 pm ] |
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Hawkeye Vince wrote: Didn't the rise in voter percentage help her husband many moons ago with the Rock the Vote stuff? If anyone could see it coming, it should have been her. Yes, Bill was young and hip. He went on MTV and pointed his thumb at us using a sensitive tone. He even played Fleetwood Mac music. My point exactly. It didn't matter the music he played. He was able to capitalize on the efforts of MTV and get voting numbers up in his favor. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:09 pm ] |
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If Guiliani loses it's because running on a platform of saying "9/11 and terrorists" won't work in 2008 like it did in 2004. I vowed never to vote for Guiliani after seeing him say "9/11" for the answer to everything for about a two month stretch. I don't want a president who's biggest accomplishment is getting two buildings knocked down and then not freaking out and then riding that to the White House. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:12 pm ] |
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Hawkeye Vince wrote: Didn't the rise in voter percentage help her husband many moons ago with the Rock the Vote stuff? If anyone could see it coming, it should have been her.
The Rock the Vote campaign was very well orchestrated and extremely public. There doesn't/didn't seem to have been anything of the same magnitude this election period. There really seemed to be more of a general malaise and numbing of this election given that most dems are relatively ok with any of the three remaining contenders. Aside from that, few actually saw the 'rock star' candidate mantle sticking to Obama for long (and given that we are still early in the process, maybe it won't) |
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| Author: | Woodridge Ryan [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:14 pm ] |
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Rick, I thought the same as you. Then as I started looking into his ideas and beliefs I, to my surprise, agreed on a lot of his stances. With that said though, I couldn't get over the fact that you brought up. He probably ranks second or third for me on Republicans though. I like him better than Romney, that's for sure. |
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| Author: | sportsfan [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:16 pm ] |
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Still in Naples: Republican presidential primary Mitt Romney - 100 John McCain - 62 Rudy Giuliani - 32 Mike Huckabee - 15 Fred Thompson – 3 Ron Paul - 2 Democratic presidential primary Hillary Clinton - 45 John Edwards - 15 Barack Obama - 13 Joe Biden - 2 |
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| Author: | Colonel Angus [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:17 pm ] |
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Nas wrote: Regular Reader wrote: Hawkeye Vince wrote: Yes, I'm sure it will be up there with other campaigns that were misguided though if Obama edges Clinton for the nomination - I'm sure people will forget Rudy's bid and Hillary's will trump it. While Hillary's campaign has been pedestrian at best, I don't think many really foresaw the increase in voting percentages that seems to be her greatest enemy. She never attempted to (nor could) be an inspirational/good speaker, and it's not exactly as if she can be the candidate for 'change' for whatever that means. She probably never will be able to move the masses, even Democratic ones. You do have to wonder though about an anti-NY bias that will get trumpeted (if Clinton & Giuliani go down) and what impact if any that will have on the shadow candidacy of Bloomberg. I don't think you will see Bloomberg make a run unless its Hillary vs Romney. Both of them are so polarizing that he might have an outside shot. Being a woman and a Mormon will work against them too. I've heard from different outlets that Rupert Murdoch has been collecting information about the affairs Bill has had over the past few years and will release the information if Hillary wins the nomination. Why doesn't he just invite Bill to be on "The Moment of Truth"? |
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| Author: | Woodridge Ryan [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:18 pm ] |
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Uga, that's an awesome idea. Can you imagine the ratings on that one? |
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| Author: | sportsfan [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:27 pm ] |
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Nas wrote: I think McCain would easily win against Hillary and Obama if he doesn’t have a strong running mate. The strange thing is his party doesn't really support him because he is sort of a rebel. He is most qualified to be president out of all the remaining candidates.
It's not that he's a rebel; he's a RINO. |
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| Author: | My Coach Vinny [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:29 pm ] |
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NSJ wrote: he's a RINO.
I'm sure Joe Morgan has an opinion on this as well. |
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| Author: | Colonel Angus [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:41 pm ] |
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Woodridge Ryan wrote: Uga, that's an awesome idea. Can you imagine the ratings on that one?
As the ratings rise, Hillary's poll numbers would plummet. She'd probably snap and try killing him on air. 
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:54 pm ] |
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Spaulding wrote: I don't think most people will connect them to NY as the reason they are losing. I dislike them both, as do many others, but it has nothing to do with NY.
I would generally like to believe that most wouldn't make that connection, but should they both lose, the media with it's love of easy angles would blare that out of every oriface. Once that happens, then 'conventional wisdom' will suggest... 
As to who Bloomberg would harm the most, I wouldn't know given that everyone has good and bad words about him. But, on the other hand, a Romney v. Obama v. Bloomberg matchup would send a certain segment of this country absolutely apeshit. |
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| Author: | sportsfan [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:08 pm ] |
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Republican presidential primary • Mitt Romney - 119 • John McCain - 80 • Rudy Giuliani - 42 • Mike Huckabee - 22 • Fred Thompson – 3 • Ron Paul - 5 Democratic presidential primary • Hillary Clinton - 63 • John Edwards - 16 • Barack Obama - 22 • Joe Biden - 2 |
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| Author: | Woodridge Ryan [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:15 pm ] |
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Come on Florida. Don't F up yet again. |
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| Author: | sportsfan [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:19 pm ] |
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Hey now, WR. I root for the Rush because of you. |
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| Author: | Woodridge Ryan [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:22 pm ] |
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Ha. Um...I don't even know who you are going for NSJ... |
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| Author: | sportsfan [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:38 pm ] |
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Romney. |
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| Author: | Woodridge Ryan [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:39 pm ] |
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My apologies
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:05 pm ] |
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McCain is doing better than i expected. Right now Fox News has it 34% for Mccain, 31% for Romney, and 16% for Rudy with 22% in. Their exit polling had Romney winning 35% to 31% |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:18 pm ] |
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I can't believe we still have to put up with another 10 months of this bullshit. Politics is for a unique personality, that is for sure. I could not be self important enough to blather on about myself and how great I am for as long as these turkeys can. Wait, how long have I been posting here? |
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