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| Author: | Brick [ Thu May 17, 2012 8:52 am ] |
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So I have a problem. We have a shower where the walls are tile and the floor is your standard plastic flooring. It's probably 4 feet by 4 feet which means that the water runs right down the tile wall to the floor. This seems to cause problems as there is a constant flow of water directly on the tile running down the wall. The plastic goes up about 5 inches at an angle similar to this http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=shower+floor+4x4&ix=sea&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1333&bih=624&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=17943432265883037112&sa=X&ei=CgG1T4TjF4iO6gGdw43XDw&ved=0CK0BEPICMAE and then meets the tile wall. When we bought the place, they only had grout down there connecting the wall and the plastic and it was starting to wear down and even led to some very minor water issues getting down to our first floor. In my research, they said that there should be caulk designed for a shower there. I did that, and it worked well, but I probably could have been more diligent in cleaning and clearing the area before I applied it. After about a year, I had to re-caulk the whole thing. Now, it looks like I'll have to do it again as there is already an area where the caulk is coming off the wall. Any advice on what to do? I think I have these options. 1) Regrout and grout sealer the area like it was previously and then watch for issues and just be diligent. 2) Get rid of all the grout(some was still there and I didn't remove it when I caulked but I covered over it with caulk) and then just caulk and deal with redoing it every 6 months to a year. 3) Grout, then put caulk over it. 4) Call someone who does this professionally and let them handle it. 5) Use Rebath and have it so the direct water is hitting plastic instead of the tile. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Thu May 17, 2012 8:55 am ] |
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Option Number 4 |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu May 17, 2012 8:56 am ] |
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| Author: | Brick [ Thu May 17, 2012 8:57 am ] |
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Hopefully some real men have answers. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Thu May 17, 2012 8:58 am ] |
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rogers park bryan wrote: Switch to Baths
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu May 17, 2012 9:02 am ] |
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Douchebag wrote: Option Number 4 And while he's there, have him install a garbage disposal in the shower.
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu May 17, 2012 9:03 am ] |
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: Hopefully some real men have answers. Ok, get a blowtorch, a chainsaw, and a Drowning Pool CD |
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| Author: | sjboyd0137 [ Thu May 17, 2012 9:07 am ] |
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Option 3. Do it and do it right. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Thu May 17, 2012 9:07 am ] |
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: Hopefully some real men have answers. This kind of stuff wouldn't happen if someone other than Ugie created the topic. |
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| Author: | Gloopan Kuratz [ Thu May 17, 2012 9:38 am ] |
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Grout will not hold up at that joint between the plastic and the tile. You need to clean all the old grout out and caulk at that joint. |
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| Author: | Chus [ Thu May 17, 2012 10:24 am ] |
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Call Elmhurst Steve. |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Thu May 17, 2012 10:25 am ] |
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Chus wrote: Call Elmhurst Steve. I'll answer all of you're Gout and Cock questions. I guarantees it. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Thu May 17, 2012 10:29 am ] |
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You have a plastic shower! it moves! Only caulk will be semi flexible enough to last for awhile....grout will always crack Rip it out and tile the place! Gonna run you $2000 to be done right. Need an "EXPERT" to do a pan the right way...very few know how to do it right. it is my #1 test on tile guys. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Thu May 17, 2012 10:35 am ] |
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that's a shitty situation. depending on how rich you are and how long you are going to live there, you might want to follow bigfan's advice. otherwise do #3 and expect you are going to have to redo it every couple of years. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Thu May 17, 2012 10:40 am ] |
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Hatchetman wrote: that's a shitty situation. depending on how rich you are and how long you are going to live there, you might want to follow bigfan's advice. otherwise do #3 and expect you are going to have to redo it every couple of years. Probably only 3 more years here.Is grout + caulk better than just caulk alone for this? |
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| Author: | Gloopan Kuratz [ Thu May 17, 2012 10:45 am ] |
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: Hatchetman wrote: that's a shitty situation. depending on how rich you are and how long you are going to live there, you might want to follow bigfan's advice. otherwise do #3 and expect you are going to have to redo it every couple of years. Probably only 3 more years here.Is grout + caulk better than just caulk alone for this? no because the plastic will move and crack it. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Thu May 17, 2012 10:49 am ] |
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: Probably only 3 more years here. Is grout + caulk better than just caulk alone for this? Depending on the situation. Should it "look" like it has grout? You don't want it to look like crap. If so, you are going to have to scrape all the old grout and loose caulk out of there. any movement will crack the grout...even humidity changes with the house etc. That's why you need the caulk. I'd use clear silicone as caulking is a mess to work with unless you are an expert. clear doesn't show the mistakes as bad. Or you can just goober white silicone caulk allover the mess and try to hide it. it will look like shit though. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Thu May 17, 2012 10:52 am ] |
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they sell some grout with latex ..so it can expand and contract without cracking...i would probably just caulk it as needed until you are going to sell the house and get a new base then..... |
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| Author: | Brick [ Thu May 17, 2012 10:57 am ] |
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Hatchetman wrote: Depending on the situation. Should it "look" like it has grout? You don't want it to look like crap. If so, you are going to have to scrape all the old grout and loose caulk out of there. It doesn't really need to look like it has grout. I'm more interested in keeping water out of the wall than anything. Hatchetman wrote: Or you can just goober white silicone caulk allover the mess and try to hide it. it will look like shit though. This is what I did the last time. It works out ok because it's a good color match with the plastic and the tiles are light brown. I'll let the next owners care about the looks.Sounds like I should get rid of as much of grout and current caulk as possible and then just re-caulk it until I move. |
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| Author: | newper [ Thu May 17, 2012 11:22 am ] |
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From what I have heard, when a wall is transitioning to another wall, you always use caulk. When you are transitioning within the same plane, you can use grout. If you put grout in a place where there is a 90 degree angle, you are asking for troubles. |
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