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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:46 pm 
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Do you have any advice on picking up a used desktop computer to run Windows 7?

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 Post subject: Re: Used PC Advice
PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:03 pm 
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Keeping Score wrote:
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Do you have any advice on picking up a used desktop computer to run Windows 7?



Not worth it. All the thrift shops will over price them.

Just pick up a new tower if that's all you need. You can get a scaled down jobber for 2-3 hundred bucks.


I have older P4 computers that can run Windows 7, but they require graphics cards.

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 Post subject: Re: Used PC Advice
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What sucks is I want an old machine to run my Older games and they are too expensive right now, too many people just not realistically pricing shit.

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Do you have any advice on picking up a used desktop computer to run Windows 7?
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 Post subject: Re: Used PC Advice
PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:33 am 
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chaspoppcap wrote:
What sucks is I want an old machine to run my Older games and they are too expensive right now, too many people just not realistically pricing stuff.


You can pick an old Pentium 4 with XP for usually around $50. But if you know someone getting rid of one they're free.

I have a copy of Windows 7, but most stores and sites that you buy a computer from won't separate the hardware from the software or give you much of a discount without Windows installed.

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 Post subject: Re: Used PC Advice
PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:42 am 
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immessedup17 wrote:
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chaspoppcap wrote:
What sucks is I want an old machine to run my Older games and they are too expensive right now, too many people just not realistically pricing stuff.


You can pick an old Pentium 4 with XP for usually around $50. But if you know someone getting rid of one they're free.

I have a copy of Windows 7, but most stores and sites that you buy a computer from won't separate the hardware from the software or give you much of a discount without Windows installed.

...build your own? Seriously...extremely simple.

Plop the CPU in, put the fan on top of the CPU, plug a couple power plugs into the Motherboard, connect the PSU to each SATA / IDE drive, close the thing up, and turn it on.


Building your own actually ends up being more expensive because you have to pay individually for each part including case, motherboard, power supply, RAM, hard drive, operating system, processor, fans, disk drives, etc. You're probably up to $500 before you even start to put it together.

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 Post subject: Re: Used PC Advice
PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:47 am 
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Decent prices for Dell's... old client of mine:

http://www.dfsdirectsales.com/ & www.DellAuction.com. Can also find them on eBay.


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 Post subject: Re: Used PC Advice
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:09 pm 
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I picked up a refurbished Dell with 4 GB of RAM, 250 GB HD and a Core 2 Processor for around $100. I put Windows 7 on it and it runs great.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:12 pm 
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As long as you are not a gamer:

http://linuxmint.com


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 Post subject: Re: Used PC Advice
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I tried Linux and I did not like it. I understand its usefulness, but most of the applications I use are not available on Linux. Linux is sort of for people who want to mess around with computer code and command line.

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 Post subject: Re: Used PC Advice
PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:27 pm 
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Mini Ditka wrote:
I picked up a refurbished Dell with 4 GB of RAM, 250 GB HD and a Core 2 Processor for around $100. I put Windows 7 on it and it runs great.

That's a damn good deal.

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 Post subject: Re: Used PC Advice
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Mini Ditka wrote:
I tried Linux and I did not like it. I understand its usefulness, but most of the applications I use are not available on Linux. Linux is sort of for people who want to mess around with computer code and command line.

Yeah it feels weird at first... But you can have your chrome and Mircosoft office-like apps, and it's all free. It took time getting used to not having steam or iTunes, but steam is coming soon for gamers. Once that happens, there might be a nice little exodus, pending on how clean it runs.

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 Post subject: Re: Used PC Advice
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immessedup17 wrote:
I kind of do this often...it is not. Building your own machine with equivalent specs will always be cheaper than buying it pre-made...excluding some crazy bargain-bin clearance prices on very old models.

We actually had a neat little project in one of my classes where you could design your own system, you could design a mini D like system with a $500 limit or a gaming maching with a $1200 limit... That 500 limit was a bitch for a lot of people, I could see where getting a proprietary Dell or something for around $400 might be a better deal for what he's looking for. Needless to say, designing the gaming pc was a lot easier.

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 Post subject: Re: Used PC Advice
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Mini Ditka wrote:
I picked up a refurbished Dell with 4 GB of RAM, 250 GB HD and a Core 2 Processor for around $100. I put Windows 7 on it and it runs great.

That's a damn good deal.


The best part of the deal was that I picked up a legit copy of Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit for a whooping $5 at the Good Will.

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immessedup17 wrote:
http://newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135309 - $50 mobo

http://newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx? ... 6819116409 - $50 cpu

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814130656 - $50 - gpu

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231253 - $20 - memory

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182021 - $32 - psu

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154095 - $19 - case

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986 - $99 - win7

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823664011 - $8 - keyboard/mouse

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152244 - $60 - hdd

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 - $17 - dvd burner (add if wanted, unneeded with digital media now)

$388 total plus <$10 shipping - all prices before possible rebates. 2.4ghz G530 cpu and a GT 430 GPU for more than your average onboard graphics capability. All you need is a monitor. Cheapest PC on newegg is $480....not nearly as good as this one. Slower RAM, slower CPU, onboard graphics.

edit: All components go together...I didn't just take the cheapest of the cheap items that would not work together (i.e. LGA 775 mobo with LGA 1155 CPU). All pieces are recent generation technology.


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 Post subject: Re: Used PC Advice
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immessedup17 wrote:
http://newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135309 - $50 mobo

http://newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx? ... 6819116409 - $50 cpu

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814130656 - $50 - gpu

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231253 - $20 - memory

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182021 - $32 - psu

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154095 - $19 - case

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986 - $99 - win7

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823664011 - $8 - keyboard/mouse

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152244 - $60 - hdd

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 - $17 - dvd burner (add if wanted, unneeded with digital media now)

$388 total plus <$10 shipping - all prices before possible rebates. 2.4ghz G530 cpu and a GT 430 GPU for more than your average onboard graphics capability. All you need is a monitor. Cheapest PC on newegg is $480....not nearly as good as this one. Slower RAM, slower CPU, onboard graphics.

edit: All components go together...I didn't just take the cheapest of the cheap items that would not work together (i.e. LGA 775 mobo with LGA 1155 CPU). All pieces are recent generation technology.


That computer is shit.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... 47&CatId=6 x4 core, 4GB, 500MB, gaming video card. Under 350.00.


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Juiced wrote:
immessedup17 wrote:
http://newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135309 - $50 mobo

http://newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx? ... 6819116409 - $50 cpu

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814130656 - $50 - gpu

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231253 - $20 - memory

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182021 - $32 - psu

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154095 - $19 - case

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986 - $99 - win7

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823664011 - $8 - keyboard/mouse

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152244 - $60 - hdd

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204 - $17 - dvd burner (add if wanted, unneeded with digital media now)

$388 total plus <$10 shipping - all prices before possible rebates. 2.4ghz G530 cpu and a GT 430 GPU for more than your average onboard graphics capability. All you need is a monitor. Cheapest PC on newegg is $480....not nearly as good as this one. Slower RAM, slower CPU, onboard graphics.

edit: All components go together...I didn't just take the cheapest of the cheap items that would not work together (i.e. LGA 775 mobo with LGA 1155 CPU). All pieces are recent generation technology.


That computer sucks.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... 47&CatId=6 x4 core, 4GB, 500MB, gaming video card. Under 350.00.


I think the Celeron is a bottom of the line processor.

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 Post subject: Re: Used PC Advice
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The Sandy Bridge Celeron is 32nm technology - it is on the lower end of newer processors, but it operates much more efficiently, and can easily be overclocked to 3.3Ghz or above.

The X4 650 is 45nm technology...old. It doesn't have near the overclocking capability...especially in a propriety Acer system. And again...it is AMD. This isn't 2002...AMD isn't close to Intel any longer.

Much software still isn't written to use 4 cores.


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 Post subject: Re: Used PC Advice
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The post means I win all PC discussions except when jackref is involved. He knows a bit more about some stuff.


Good to know. :D

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