Terry's Peeps wrote:
Keeping Score wrote:
That guy is fucked up, but who's to decide who's a troll or not?
Me.
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Internet Trolling |
http://gawker.com/5950981/unmasking-red ... on-the-web Just read this story on Gawker and found it pretty interesting. I'm sorta torn on this. I think the troll has every right to post what he did but I also think the journalist had a right to out the troll. That's fair, right? |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
Yeah. That guy is fucked up. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
Keeping Score wrote: That guy is fucked up, but who's to decide who's a troll or not? Me. |
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| Author: | Drop In [ Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
Terry's Peeps wrote: Keeping Score wrote: That guy is fucked up, but who's to decide who's a troll or not? Me.
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| Author: | Colonel Angus [ Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
Terry's Peeps wrote: Keeping Score wrote: That guy is fucked up, but who's to decide who's a troll or not? Me. He didn't ask who was a troll, he asked who's to decide who is a troll. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
Colonel Angus wrote: Terry's Peeps wrote: Keeping Score wrote: That guy is fucked up, but who's to decide who's a troll or not? Me. He didn't ask who was a troll, he asked who's to decide who is a troll. I do not like you. But damnit do I respect you! |
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| Author: | Colonel Angus [ Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
Terry's Peeps wrote: Colonel Angus wrote: Terry's Peeps wrote: Keeping Score wrote: That guy is fucked up, but who's to decide who's a troll or not? Me. He didn't ask who was a troll, he asked who's to decide who is a troll. I do not like you. But damnit do I respect you! 
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| Author: | Rod [ Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
Keeping Score wrote: The more I think about this, the more I think he should not have been outed. To be fair, I stopped reading the article after like 57 paragraphs, so I may have missed something, but if he was posting within the rules of the website and they were allowing it, then no, he should not have been outed. I think the article put it pretty succinctly: "...if 14-year-olds didn't want their bikini pictures to be posted to Reddit, they should not have taken them and uploaded them to their Facebook accounts in the first place. If Brutsch did not want his employers to know that he had become a minor internet celebrity through spending hours every day posting photos of 14-year-olds in bikinis to thousands of people on the internet, he should have stuck to posting cat videos." You should remember that the next time you post as Juggs. |
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| Author: | Seacrest [ Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Keeping Score wrote: The more I think about this, the more I think he should not have been outed. To be fair, I stopped reading the article after like 57 paragraphs, so I may have missed something, but if he was posting within the rules of the website and they were allowing it, then no, he should not have been outed. I think the article put it pretty succinctly: "...if 14-year-olds didn't want their bikini pictures to be posted to Reddit, they should not have taken them and uploaded them to their Facebook accounts in the first place. If Brutsch did not want his employers to know that he had become a minor internet celebrity through spending hours every day posting photos of 14-year-olds in bikinis to thousands of people on the internet, he should have stuck to posting cat videos." You should remember that the next time you post as Juggs. Actions have consequences. |
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| Author: | Seacrest [ Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
Keeping Score wrote: It just seems like a slippery slope. I'm not defending the dude, his topics were deploarable. But heck, we've already had instances on this very board where members didn't care for other members and tried to get them fired from their jobs for posting from work. Was that ok? I missed that episode. Must have been during one of the times that BF de-activated my log in. With that being said, if you have a company policy about posting during work and you flaunt it, who is responsible for that? And I think this guy possibly posted during work and with deplorable topics. |
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| Author: | W_Z [ Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
i'm still not sure i understand why this guy did it...push the envelope to expose something about ourselves (he kinda did that with "jailbait") but he kinda seems like assange...an anarchist without a cause. oh well. trolling is the new hacking. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
Keeping Score wrote: It just seems like a slippery slope. I'm not defending the dude, his topics were deploarable. But heck, we've already had instances on this very board where members didn't care for other members and tried to get them fired from their jobs for posting from work. Was that ok? Missed that one. Please elaborate. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
immessedup17 wrote: Fuck Reddit and its users. Disgusting. I had no idea what Reddit was until I read the article. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
Terry's Peeps wrote: immessedup17 wrote: Fuck Reddit and its users. Disgusting. I had no idea what Reddit was until I read the article. KS is just pissed that they shut down the "Creepshots" section. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
Truly. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
Terry's Peeps wrote: Truly. I found out what it was a few weeks ago when Obama and Gary Johnson did AMAs on there. I think I had vaguely heard of it before. |
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| Author: | Seacrest [ Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
Nor did I ever hear of Reddit. but... Terry's Peeps wrote: You really are a simpleton. I just heard about this for the first time today also. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
Also never heard of it...and not even looking... |
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| Author: | Chus [ Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
bigfan wrote: Also never heard of it...and not even looking... Bigfan knows about redtube, I'll bet. |
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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
Reddit is just 4chan with its pants (usually) on, but Adrian Chen is a pathetic white knight fueled not by doing real good but by getting pageviews. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
I wonder if anyone has started a CubsSuck section on there yet. A new member named "Peacefulsquarefootage" might need to bring something to this community. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb ... lp00000009 In the least shocking story of the year, the dipshit did indeed get fired for being a terrible person. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
someone should be doing an expose on everything Adrian Chen does the moment he/she leaves his home as public actions have consequences I think it's just great that we don't need the government spying on our every move as we will willingly do it to each other just for sport. |
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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
good dolphin wrote: I think it's just great that we don't need the government spying on our every move as we will willingly do it to each other just for sport. bullseye |
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| Author: | Killer V [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
So tell me why this guy should have remained anonymous. |
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| Author: | mcbrides [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
Fucking dipshit is what he is. Like any of the crap he was posting was not going to come eventually, anyone who believes that they can trust people over the interwebs is a idiot. |
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| Author: | Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
Killer V wrote: So tell me why this guy should have remained anonymous. You are thinking like a good citizen. I would wonder what was so remarkable that one person in an environment of million(s) of anonymous people deserved different treatment. The answer needs to be better than he made posts offensive to some, because that is a subjective standard. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
good dolphin wrote: Killer V wrote: So tell me why this guy should have remained anonymous. You are thinking like a good citizen. I would wonder what was so remarkable that one person in an environment of million(s) of anonymous people deserved different treatment. The answer needs to be better than he made posts offensive to some, because that is a subjective standard. I hear what you are saying, which is why I said I was initially torn on it, but im leaning more towards the "actions have consequences" side of the debate. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Internet Trolling |
FavreFan wrote: good dolphin wrote: Killer V wrote: So tell me why this guy should have remained anonymous. You are thinking like a good citizen. I would wonder what was so remarkable that one person in an environment of million(s) of anonymous people deserved different treatment. The answer needs to be better than he made posts offensive to some, because that is a subjective standard. I hear what you are saying, which is why I said I was initially torn on it, but im leaning more towards the "actions have consequences" side of the debate. of course they do...but the "action" taking place is being performed by an agent of reddit. If the content is offensive, it is Reddit's content. Perform the expose on Reddit and let the public decide if it is acceptable....but she did not do that and the language of the writer gives a pretty clear indication that this was a personal vendetta (even the quotes she tries to use don't seem to fit with the narrative she is attempting to create). This was an abuse of her ethics, whatever those may be for reporters and I would hope she would never find work at a legitimate news source due to this piece. I am left asking myself what the point was of this piece. It clearly wasn't to put a stop to offensive material on reddit. It wasn't even to stop a particular kind of offensive section of reddit as someone else will take up this guy's work. She didn't even want to stop one particular poster as he offered to stop and delete everything he had done in the past. No, all she wanted to do was out him. now actions have consequences so extrapolate the actions of the reporter and determine if they are acceptable...displaying the personal information (and his family) of a person not because of offensive posting content (as I explained above, she really didn't care about) but only because he is popular is full on sociopathic behavior. She is the stalker she decries in her story. Oh, and the Cubs suck. |
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