Fuck the jackbooted government thugs and their black helicopters, don't fill that shit out if you don't want to.

Recently my family was the victim of a Terrorist Attack. I am going to name the group so others can be on the lookout as well. It appears to be a harmless survey called the American Community Survey, it comes from the US Census Bureau. We received the first survey some months ago, then we recieved another one, assuming they were junk mail and they were I promptly round filed the second one so it could join the first one in the land fill. We then receivd a phone call where right after his introduction the gentleman launched into asking me questions, I told him since I did not know who he was I could not answer any questions, he said ok we will send you a letter. it arrived and you guessed it i round filed it. I then recieved a call from some lady who told me she was with the American Community Survey, I stopped and told her i was on the national do not call list, as such i don’t do phone interviews, surveys, telemarketing, or sales over the phone and to remove me from the list. She said she was with the goverment and they dont remove people from their list. I told her guess i would just have to disconnect it, she told me to do what I needed to do. Their next tactic was to ambush my wife, she came home from work to find a white suburban parked out front and the lady approched her and tried to get her to answer the survey. She refused and went inside. THis evening up on my arrival home I found a fedex mailer shoved under my front door, I opened it. insdie was a letter threatening me with penalties for not complying with their request. I promptly called the lady listed on the survey(same one who had left cards for me to call her and visited my wife). I told her to remove me from thier list, i was not going to tell her anymore than 2 people live here, both are employed, both are between the age of 18 and 65, both drive cars, SUV’s to be exact, gas guzzlers if she must know. I aksed her why the need to know if we have indoor toliets, a stove, or refrigerator? how far and what time we leave for work is our business. She said she needed my name and address to mark me complete. I said hell you been to my house you must have the address. I pointed out to her that 23 million Americans need a job, they should be working on that and not some damm survey. She said, she could not take me off the list since i had not given her my name and or address. I told her the sidewalk is where public property ends, dont come on mine again.

So if a survey lady hollers at you from the sidewalk you can thank me for keeping them off your doorstep.

Do I have to respond to the American Community Survey (ACS)?

Yes. Responding to the American Community Survey (ACS) is about helping national, tribal, state and local officials make informed decisions with timely and accurate data. Just as people are required to respond to jury duty, get a driver’s license in order to drive, pay their taxes and report their income, they also have the obligation to respond to decennial census surveys.

The ACS is conducted under the authority of Title 13, United States Code (U.S.C.), Sections 141 and 193, and response is required by law. According to Section 221, persons who do not respond shall be fined not more than $100. Title 18 U.S.C. Section 3571 and Section 3559, in effect amend Title 13 U.S.C. Section 221 by changing the fine for anyone over 18 years old who refuses or willfully neglects to complete the questionnaire or answer questions posed by census takers from a fine of not more than $100 to not more than $5,000.

https://askacs.census.gov/faq.php?id=5000&faqId=7455

Are you saying that you're NOT required to respond, AS LONG AS one is ok in dealing with this:

The ACS is conducted under the authority of Title 13, United States Code (U.S.C.), Sections 141 and 193, and response is required by law. According to Section 221, persons who do not respond shall be fined not more than $100. Title 18 U.S.C. Section 3571 and Section 3559, in effect amend Title 13 U.S.C. Section 221 by changing the fine for anyone over 18 years old who refuses or willfully neglects to complete the questionnaire or answer questions posed by census takers from a fine of not more than $100 to not more than $5,000.

I refused. Wife did not. No repercussions on my end.

So you did not fill it out, but your wife filled it out?

Anyone else get one of these surveys to fill out? I got one a few weeks back and lost it and never got it returned. Today I get another one and am told that I am required by law to respond to this survey. Really? They do not even have my name on the envelope, it is addressed to "Resident".

Is this "required by Law" statement just a scare tactic to get people to return it?

This thing is rather large and I have no desire to fill it out. But I also do not want to get in trouble with the Law. Curious if any of you have any experience with this thing...

So Darko if you had to do it again, would you still refuse? I guess I am trying to find out what is the bigger hassle. Filling out this form or putting up with the phone calls and visits

You probably could've had that survey filled out by now Ralph, if you weren't still bitching about it.

They have my DNA for gosh sakes.

Look Dickslide,

I don't care if you or the Mrs. or Ralph or Mrs. Ralph take the damn survey, wipe your ass with it, or burn it in the fireplace.
I was just providing the dude who doesn't want to get in trouble with the law.....with the actual law.

Here's more RFDC,


Data from the American Community Survey helps your community. The information that the Census Bureau collects helps to determine how more than $400 billion dollars of federal funding each year is spent on infrastructure and services. Your answers to the American Community Survey help federal, state and local leaders make decisions about:

schools
job training centers
hospitals
location of new businesses
care for children, veterans, and seniors
roads, bridges, and transportation projects
emergency services
housing value


You may as well sell out on baseball, hot dogs, apple pie and Chevrolet if you're not gonna complete the survey.

Do you really wanna be like Darko?

Race? Education? How does that affect the need for hospitals? Only population should.
How does citizenship affect school lunches? They know enrollment. What else would they need to know. That post, the claim they're making... Is a lie.

We never reveal your identity to anybody else. The Census Bureau is legally bound to strict confidentiality requirements. Individual records are not shared with anyone, including federal agencies and law enforcement entities. By law, the Census Bureau cannot share respondents' answers with anyone, -- not the IRS, not the FBI, not the CIA, and not with any other government agency.

All Census Bureau employees take an oath of nondisclosure and are sworn for life to protect all information that could identify individuals. Disclosing ANY information that could identify you or your family means 5 years in prison, or $250,000 in fines, or both.

To protect your privacy, the American Community Survey NEVER asks for:

your Social Security number
your personal information via email
money or donations
credit card information
If a field representative comes to your home to help you complete the American Community Survey, he or she will ALWAYS have official Census ID.

We never reveal your identity to anybody else. Ever.

Without having read most of the thread, could someone explain why they wouldn't want to respond? I'm just curious.

I took the census once. I believe it was in 2008 or 2009. I got a survey in the mail and I filled it out. To date, it hasn't affected me in any way that I'm aware of.

#RealAmerican

I agree with you on principle Darkseid, but comparing them to Nazis may be a bit much.