First, I don't have a dog in this fight. I have friends that hold very strong opinions on both sides. I see a ton of hypocrisy with both. I'm purposely Mini Ditka'ing myself, because I think this needs a dedicated thread about why things should stay the same, have every gun removed as soon as possible, or somewhere in between. Holding to the whole constitutional amendment deal? Let's hear it. Do you want to defend your family? Do you think the elimination of guns would eliminate that need?

Try to keep it civil kids.

Even the biggest gun toteing redneck has to agree something needs to be done.

The NRA doesnt even give that much money to politicians to make this a dealbreaker for the Republicans.

Even the biggest gun toteing redneck has to agree something needs to be done.

The NRA doesnt even give that much money to politicians to make this a dealbreaker for the Republicans.

We toil under a government that has traded arms for other goods for centuries.

Our present administration sold guns illegally that ended killing a member of law enforcement in this country.

I don't have a chit in this game either but for those who are sane enough to sit back and say to themselves that I can legally and responsibly own a firearm, then by all means go buy one.

For those who don't understand when given the realities above, that some of their fellow citizens feel that they may need to be protected for their own government, well then your name is ignorance.

This is a perfect example of the complexity of the argument. Right now, I make a joke about people that need to protect themselves from the scary government. "Because dem is taking away our guns when it's run by one of dem, ya knows." But fifty years from now? Ninety years from now? What if our society becomes completely unarmed, and another frightening terrorist event happens. Democracy doesn't fade slowly, but immediately.

That kind of bothers me too. There's always a reason/excuse for these people. Can't it ever be that they're just mean son of a bitches?

Guns aren't the issue. They are part of the issue, yes. And I am extremely bothered by this story to a degree I don't care to get into.

But guns are a tool.

All I know is it's never knives we're all arguing about. It's always guns.


Additionally, has anybody noticed that 99 times out of 100, mass shootings/killings are always perpetrated by a whitey?

More innocent lives would be saved if guns didn't exist. Thus, we shouldn't have guns.

For the once in a million chance that a person with a gun will defend his family from a gunman trying to kill them, we get 3 or 4 mass shootings a year. Not to metion the random bullets that fly in chicago that kill a couple hundred a year. Thus, guns should be banned.

I'm not excusing a single damn thing. But it's easy to say that, because there will always be some jackoff on every news channel saying it's exclusively the fault of guns, illness, etc. to promote their personal agenda.

I wasn't saying YOU were were implying that. Just a general observation.

All I know is it's never knives we're all arguing about. It's always guns.


Additionally, has anybody noticed that 99 times out of 100, mass shootings/killings are always perpetrated by a whitey?

Just like running onto the field at sporting events. It's in our DNA.

Peeps, I've intentionally avoided Facebook since this thing happened. I think I'll give it about a week before I go back on there.

somehow Jerry Reinsdorf has come into a thread about guns

somehow Jerry Reinsdorf has come into a thread about guns

Would I be OK if Guns are totally illegal yes, but I also realize it's not going to happen.