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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Same Sex Parents |
Equal to man/woman parents? Worse than Hitler? Slightly better than Hitler? What say you? |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
Obviously gonna burn in the fires of eternal damnation. |
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| Author: | SomeGuy [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
rogers park bryan wrote: Equal to man/woman parents? Worse than Hitler? Slightly better than Hitler? What say you? Was this really necessary? |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
SomeGuy wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Equal to man/woman parents? Worse than Hitler? Slightly better than Hitler? What say you? Was this really necessary? Yes? |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
rpb doing the controversial work again. |
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| Author: | Northside_Dan [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
A kid can't get equally fucked up with same sex as they could with a man/woman parents. That said, I think there is some value to instilling some traditional men/women values in a child s life. |
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| Author: | Hank Scorpio [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
SomeGuy wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Equal to man/woman parents? Worse than Hitler? Slightly better than Hitler? What say you? Was this really necessary? Well, Seacrest and I were kinda on a tangent in the cost of college thread, so I thought we'd move the same sex parents discussion here rather than keep bastardizing that thread. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
Northside_Dan wrote: A kid can't get equally fucked up with same sex as they could with a man/woman parents. That said, I think there is some value to instilling some traditional men/women values in a child s life. If everything was equal (spoiler alert: Its NOT) then a man and a woman would be ideal. |
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| Author: | SomeGuy [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
rogers park bryan wrote: SomeGuy wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Equal to man/woman parents? Worse than Hitler? Slightly better than Hitler? What say you? Was this really necessary? Well, Seacrest and I were kinda on a tangent in the cost of college thread, so I thought we'd move the same sex parents discussion here rather than keep bastardizing that thread. I gotcha. |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
Assuming for a moment that hetero relationships are normal or the norm so to speak then in some sense it is probably better for a child to have that model. On the other hand so many relationships are dysfunctional they just fuck up kids anyway. |
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| Author: | Phil McCracken [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
Its ok if the two Moms are hot |
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| Author: | Telegram Sam [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
Being a sophisicated swell, I can only speak for myself but a large group if not a majority of people are related to or know someone well who is gay and out and with whom they would have no quarrel to being a capable parent. This was less true 20 years ago primarily because less mainstream middle class gays were out of the closet. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
rogers park bryan wrote: Equal to man/woman parents? Just like a single parent household, it probably isn't ideal but nothing that can't be solved by being mindful of the issues associated with it.However, I don't get why people care about other people having same sex parents. So what if Timmy from school has two mommies? How does it hurt your kid? |
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| Author: | Phil McCracken [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Equal to man/woman parents? Just like a single parent household, it probably isn't ideal but nothing that can't be solved by being mindful of the issues associated with it.However, I don't get why people care about other people having same sex parents. So what if Timmy from school has two mommies? How does it hurt your kid? Cause Jesus. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
Only if he calls the butch one, "Daddy" |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Equal to man/woman parents? Just like a single parent household, it probably isn't ideal but nothing that can't be solved by being mindful of the issues associated with it.However, I don't get why people care about other people having same sex parents. So what if Timmy from school has two mommies? How does it hurt your kid? I fall more in line with that thought. It isn't like anyone can discriminate against gays that easily like if your are a racist you can see if someone is black. If you are going about your business in society does anyone really know who is gay or not? |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Equal to man/woman parents? Just like a single parent household, it probably isn't ideal but nothing that can't be solved by being mindful of the issues associated with it.And obviously there are many terrible traditional Man Woman parenting tandems. Ill say this. Two adults who care about the child is better than one. |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
The two couples I know are pretty cool. For some reason the Catholic College I went to didn't announce the birth from the 2 that went there in their quarterly magazine, like they do with most everybody else. |
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| Author: | Phil McCracken [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
rogers park bryan wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Equal to man/woman parents? Just like a single parent household, it probably isn't ideal but nothing that can't be solved by being mindful of the issues associated with it.And obviously there are many terrible traditional Man Woman parenting tandems. Ill say this. Two adults who care about the child is better than one. Truly. It takes a village. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
KDdidit wrote: The two couples I know are pretty cool. For some reason the Catholic College I went to didn't announce the birth from the 2 that went there in their quarterly magazine, like they do with most everybody else. But, Ill bet they still receive the newsletter begging for donations. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Only if he calls the butch one, "Daddy" Who's "he" - the other guy or the kid? |
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| Author: | Telegram Sam [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
Phil McCracken wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Equal to man/woman parents? Just like a single parent household, it probably isn't ideal but nothing that can't be solved by being mindful of the issues associated with it.And obviously there are many terrible traditional Man Woman parenting tandems. Ill say this. Two adults who care about the child is better than one. Truly. It takes a village. It takes Roscoe Village. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: However, I don't get why people care about other people having same sex parents. So what if Timmy from school has two mommies? How does it hurt your kid? Also, there seems to be a lot of concern about kids asking questions. I understand some things are difficult to explain to a child, but keeping them in the dark or blissfully unaware as long as possible is probably not the best route either. Im not going full MITC and saying talk to them like adults about all things, but I do think kids can handle a lot of things that parents are just afraid to talk about. Just my opinion. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
I basically agree with what Zach Wahls has to say about this. |
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| Author: | Phil McCracken [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
Telegram Sam wrote: Phil McCracken wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: And obviously there are many terrible traditional Man Woman parenting tandems. Ill say this. Two adults who care about the child is better than one. Truly. It takes a village. It takes Roscoe Village. It takes Roscoe P. Coltrane to raise a child. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
rogers park bryan wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: However, I don't get why people care about other people having same sex parents. So what if Timmy from school has two mommies? How does it hurt your kid? Also, there seems to be a lot of concern about kids asking questions. I understand some things are difficult to explain to a child, but keeping them in the dark or blissfully unaware as long as possible is probably not the best route either. Im not going full MITC and saying talk to them like adults about all things, but I do think kids can handle a lot of things that parents are just afraid to talk about. Just my opinion. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
Phil McCracken wrote: Telegram Sam wrote: Phil McCracken wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: And obviously there are many terrible traditional Man Woman parenting tandems. Ill say this. Two adults who care about the child is better than one. Truly. It takes a village. It takes Roscoe Village. It takes Roscoe P. Coltrane to raise a child. http://www.hiyoooo.com/ |
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| Author: | Seacrest [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
rogers park bryan wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Equal to man/woman parents? Just like a single parent household, it probably isn't ideal but nothing that can't be solved by being mindful of the issues associated with it.And obviously there are many terrible traditional Man Woman parenting tandems. Ill say this. Two adults who care about the child is better than one. Judging people, places and organizations by the worst they have to offer is an odd way to go about having a discussion, or living ones life for that matter. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Same Sex Parents |
See, there's a perfect example of a Seacrest strawman. No one is judging anyone by their worst offering. But the fact that I even listed that some Man/Woman couples are inept parents, has bothered Seacrest to the point where he is trying to act like I ripped traditional couples in general. Anyone with a brain who is reading can see I did not do that. Again, Two loving parents are better than one. That is my position, regardless of gender. |
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