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Author:  Darkside [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Worst Chicago Coaches?
Who are the worst coaches in Chicago History?

These are my initial nominees:

Cubs - Mike Quade
Sox - Terry Bevington
Hawks - Alpo Suhonen
Bulls - Vinny Del Negro
Bears - Dave Wannstedt
Author:  Hawg Ass [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Worst Chicago Coaches?
Wanny-Bears
Author:  Nas [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Worst Chicago Coaches?
Wanny
Author:  Darkside [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:01 pm ]
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yeah, wanny was bad. I'm gonna add him to my list.
Author:  Colonel Angus [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:24 pm ]
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Tim Floyd & Bill Cartwright should be considered for the Bulls.
Author:  Darkside [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:24 pm ]
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Colonel Angus wrote:
Tim Floyd & Bill Cartwright should be considered for the Bulls.

Boy there was a string of them huh?
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Worst Chicago Coaches?
Bulls-Tim Floyd
Sox-Bevington
Bears-Wanny
Hawks-Alpo
Cubs-Quade
Author:  RFDC [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Worst Chicago Coaches?
IMO Vinny was worse than Floyd. Floyd was real bad, but he had absolutely nothing to work with. Can you imagine Vinny with that roster?
Author:  Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Worst Chicago Coaches?
Do you take Mike Quade or Bruce Kim?
Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:30 pm ]
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Sox: Bevington
Hawks: Dirk Graham
Bears: Dick Jauron
Coobs: Bruce Kimm
Bools: Tim Floyd
Author:  Colonel Angus [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Worst Chicago Coaches?
Pretty much every Bulls coach between Jackson & Thibadeau was bad. Scott Skiles was probably the exception.
Author:  Regular Reader [ Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:05 pm ]
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Post January 1986, Ditka.

He helped wreck arguably the greatest team in Chicago history. What he did wasn't just hypocritical, self serving and craven. What he did verged on the meatball criminal.
Author:  newper [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:15 am ]
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Abe Gibron... .268 lifetime winning percentage and the Bears never finished higher than last in the division.
Author:  W_Z [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:48 am ]
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Scorehead wrote:

Lovie Smith.
Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:06 am ]
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Colonel Angus wrote:
Pretty much every Bulls coach between Jackson & Thibadeau was bad. Scott Skiles was probably the exception.

Skiles was/is also bad. The only difference was that Skiles had a roster of try-hard guys who played way above his coaching. But he grated on them just like he does everyone else, and they just could no longer deal with his weirdness, his assholeness, and his "throw my hands up in the air and say fuck it" attitude.
Author:  good dolphin [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:22 am ]
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T-Ball- bigfan
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:28 am ]
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Joey Amalfitano
Author:  Chus [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:05 am ]
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Darkside wrote:
Who are the worst coaches in Chicago History?

These are my initial nominees:

Cubs - Mike Quade
Sox - Terry Bevington
Hawks - Alpo Suhonen
Bulls - Vinny Del Negro
Bears - Dave Wannstedt


That's a pretty good list.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Worst Chicago Coaches?
Can we put assistants in there? If so, I say John Shoop
Author:  Chus [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:16 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Can we put assistants in there? If so, I say John Shoop


How that guy got another job at any level is a mystery to me.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Worst Chicago Coaches?
I think the Quade hate is due to freshness

Trebelhorn was awful

Most of the guys in the 70's and 80's were awful. Not that Quade is good, but...
Author:  Douchebag [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:18 am ]
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Bruce Kimm, Jim Lefebvre, Trebbelhorn, yikes, the Cubs had a bunch of terrible managers in the 90's.
Author:  Old Man River [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:28 am ]
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Jim Essian
Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:37 am ]
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Quade is very low on the list of bad Cubs managers. Hell, they played better for him in 2010 than they did for Lou.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:40 am ]
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Overall, there is Wanstedt and Bevington (interchangeable at #1), and then everybody else. I bet no Cub manager signaled to an empty bullpen for a reliever to enter the game.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:44 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Overall, there is Wanstedt and Bevington (interchangeable at #1), and then everybody else. I bet no Cub manager signaled to an empty bullpen for a reliever to enter the game.

The Cubs started the year losing their first 10 home games, causing new manager Tom Trebelhorn to conduct a "Town Hall" meeting on a park bench in front of the fire station on Waveland Avenue
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:49 am ]
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:lol: Thats pretty bad, but still didn't happen during a game. Besides if the team was 0-10 at home, I doubt they were very good regardless of who the manager was.
Author:  Darkside [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:40 pm ]
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Concept... the Cubs '61 and '62 post Grimm "college of coaches".
Christ. What was fucking PK thinking!?!?!?
Author:  Curious Hair [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Worst Chicago Coaches?
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Colonel Angus wrote:
Pretty much every Bulls coach between Jackson & Thibadeau was bad. Scott Skiles was probably the exception.

Skiles was/is also bad. The only difference was that Skiles had a roster of try-hard guys who played way above his coaching. But he grated on them just like he does everyone else, and they just could no longer deal with his weirdness, his assholeness, and his "throw my hands up in the air and say fuck it" attitude.

My opinion of Skiles really soured when the same thing finally happened in Milwaukee, and when I read here that he won't coach college because he thinks he's too good for a lesser hotel circuit. Like, seriously, dude, you're made for coaching college. Suck it up and live in Nebraska if you have to, and you probably do have to because no one is going to give you an NBA job again.

That said, I don't think it's fair to say the Bulls "played above his coaching." That makes it sound like they did everything themselves and just happened to have a screaming bald man standing around them all the time. Some of their early overachievement has to be attributed to his coaching.
Author:  jimmypasta [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:46 pm ]
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* Cubs-The College of coaches
* Sox-Don Kessinger?
* Hawks-Alpho Sunahan
* Bulls- Tim Floyd
* Bears- Dick Jauron-Don't care about records,this dude was barely conscious!
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