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Author:  Don Tiny [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:46 pm ]
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Mayor's 'children's fund' from speed fines doesn't exist in budget
Expected $70 million haul will go into general fund

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-rahm-emanuel-speed-camera-funds-1119-20131119,0,7114410.story

By Hal Dardick, Chicago Tribune reporter
11:01 a.m. CST, November 19, 2013


Mayor Rahm Emanuel is pitching the $70 million he expects to collect from speed camera tickets next year as a way to help children — spending the windfall on a mix of after-school programs, early childhood education, summer jobs, violence reduction, crossing guards, police outside schools and other efforts.

"I promised that the revenue from new speed camera enforcement in children's safety zones would go to keeping our children safe, and this budget does exactly that," Emanuel said as he presented his spending plan last month. "We will be creating a Children's Fund to ensure that this ... new money is dedicated to keeping our kids learning and safe."

There is no children's fund in the proposed city budget. Instead, the money from speed camera fines will go straight into the city's $3.3 billion general fund to spend as the mayor and City Council see fit. Talking about helping children is more politically palatable than discussing the revenue from speed cameras that drivers are starting to pay.

If all of that sounds a little familiar, it should. Longtime Illinois residents remember a similar approach used to sell the state lottery in 1973. Lawmakers said all the proceeds would go to education. What they didn't advertise was that a like amount of money that had been going to schools was shifted to other programs — a move critics slammed as a shell game.

"A real children's fund would be one in which the lines went into a special fund and can only be spent for these purposes, and that's not what they're doing," said Dick Simpson, a former alderman and political science professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

The mayor also is making a for-the-children pitch to sell a 75-cents-a-pack cigarette tax increase, saying it will pay for more free vision care and health care for Chicago Public Schools students. The smoke tax hike is expected to bring in about $10 million next year, but only about $1.1 million will be spent on the children. The rest goes into the general fund to help balance the budget.

The mayor defends the kids-first theme by noting that the federal government has cut grant funding for children's programs in recent years. This year the city lost $6.6 million in Head Start funding, used for early childhood education, because of automatic U.S. government spending cuts known as sequestration, city officials said. The city also has lost funding for after-school programming and summer jobs for youths, they added.

Despite those cuts and the loss of other funding, the city has maintained or increased spending on those programs during Emanuel's tenure, which began in mid-2011. The speed camera revenue will allow the city to fill those gaps and keep up with current spending levels should there be future cuts, the mayor told the Tribune editorial board.

The idea is to make sure "the kids are held harmless," Emanuel said. "Whether it's after-school, summer jobs, pre-K, library (learning programs), crossing guards, police officers in front of schools that we have, those are the resources coming out of the safety zones that will pay for those, all those so the kids are never ... at risk."

City budget officials say that the term "children's fund" refers to $73 million that will be spent next year on after-school programs, early childhood education, summer jobs, violence reduction efforts, homeless youth programs, library programs, crossing guards and cops outside schools.

The city paid for those programs this year mostly out of the general fund before the first speed camera ever went up. Some of the programs will be expanded next year. The cost of the expansion and making up for other funding losses add up to at most $21 million, by the Budget Department's own reckoning.

The mayor, however, did not a create a special fund to limit spending of speed camera money solely to children's programs. That would have boxed Emanuel and aldermen in during tight budget times, and the speed cameras are expected to bring in far more than the $70 million predicted next year.

"The whole idea (the mayor presents) is it's all for the children, it's all for the safety of the kids," said Ald. Nicholas Sposato, 36th, who last year voted against allowing the speed cameras. "We all know it's about revenue."

To sell the speed cameras and cigarette tax revenue, Emanuel also is touting other benefits for children. With traffic slowed near schools and parks, kids will be safer, and with cigarette taxes higher, fewer kids are likely to take up smoking, he says.

Budget Director Alexandra Holt also noted during budget hearings that about $3 million in speed camera revenue is going to be spent on so-called traffic calming devices, like speed bumps, and other traffic safety infrastructure, like street signs.

Selling a state lottery or new speed cameras by saying all the revenue is for the kids is a common political tactic that's hardly unique to Emanuel. "It's the sugar coating on the pill," said DePaul University Professor Emeritus H. Woods Bowman, a government finance expert, former state lawmaker and onetime Cook County chief financial officer.

As Emanuel heads into the home stretch of budget approval, the welfare of children has become a central theme of his administration. For example, he mentioned children, kids or youths 32 times in his budget address.

"Our first and most important investment is in the children of Chicago," he said early on, and later he noted that as a youngster he used to make hospital rounds once a month with his pediatrician father.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:59 pm ]
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Eerily similar to The Human Fund.

Author:  denisdman [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:11 pm ]
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Like, the Illinois Lottery, WMD in Iraq, and you can keep you healthcare insurance.

I see a pattern, and the media wonders why folks lose faith in politicians.

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:13 pm ]
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I think the problem is that Rahm has insulated himself with people who just tell him what he wants to hear. Everything his Campaign / administration does is so well scripted that I honesty believe he thought he was telling the truth with the whole "Children's Fund" thing. He wouldn't have gone out saying that if he hadn't been told by the speed camera companies that it was true.

Author:  Rod [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:14 pm ]
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All you have to do when anyone disagrees with you is start screaming, "IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN! THE CHILDREN!!!! Who could argue with that?

Author:  Telegram Sam [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:16 pm ]
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It's for our most precious resource: The bond rating.

Author:  Regular Reader [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:19 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
All you have to do when anyone disagrees with you is start screaming, "IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN! THE CHILDREN!!!! Who could argue with that?


Tom Tunney?

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:19 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
All you have to do when anyone disagrees with you is start screaming, "IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN! THE CHILDREN!!!! Who could argue with that?


Pretty much the basis for every single law passed nowadays. Fracking? Children. Healthcare? Children. Gun Laws? Children. Global Warming? Children. Education? Children. Minimum wage? Children. Speed Cameras? Children. Immigration? Children. Welfare? Children.

Author:  Regular Reader [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:21 pm ]
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Telegram Sam wrote:
It's for our most precious resource: The bond rating.


I thought that one was (finally) officially replaced by "making Chicago a more attractive place for the business community"

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:22 pm ]
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Telegram Sam wrote:
It's for our most precious resource: The bond rating.

Connery
Craig
Moore
Brosnan
Lazenby

Author:  Regular Reader [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:26 pm ]
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
All you have to do when anyone disagrees with you is start screaming, "IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN! THE CHILDREN!!!! Who could argue with that?


Pretty much the basis for every single law passed nowadays. Fracking? Children. Healthcare? Children. Gun Laws? Children. Global Warming? Children. Education? Children. Minimum wage? Children. Speed Cameras? Children. Immigration? Children. Welfare? Children.


Of course there is still the ad sponsored by (I believe) the American Petroleum & Gas Suppliers Labor & Mgmt Board :lol: featured the little girl begging for POTUS to sign off on the Keystone Pipeline after four long years.

Her "daddy" explained to her that all construction jobs are temporary, and that four "studies" they have show that the pipeline is safe.

Oh, and that this is a good thing for American families & their children. :wink:

Author:  Telegram Sam [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:26 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Telegram Sam wrote:
It's for our most precious resource: The bond rating.

Connery
Craig
Moore
Brosnan
Lazenby


Don't you crack wise with me. I pulled a lot of strings to get your head in the Thanksgiving Day Parade.

Author:  denisdman [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:27 pm ]
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
All you have to do when anyone disagrees with you is start screaming, "IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN! THE CHILDREN!!!! Who could argue with that?


Pretty much the basis for every single law passed nowadays. Fracking? Children. Healthcare? Children. Gun Laws? Children. Global Warming? Children. Education? Children. Minimum wage? Children. Speed Cameras? Children. Immigration? Children. Welfare? Children.


You got that right. Every school property tax increase.....

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:28 pm ]
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Well, that is actually for teacher pensions...

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:36 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Well, that is actually for teacher pensions...


Because they teach the children.

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:40 pm ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
All you have to do when anyone disagrees with you is start screaming, "IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN! THE CHILDREN!!!! Who could argue with that?


Pretty much the basis for every single law passed nowadays. Fracking? Children. Healthcare? Children. Gun Laws? Children. Global Warming? Children. Education? Children. Minimum wage? Children. Speed Cameras? Children. Immigration? Children. Welfare? Children.


Of course there is still the ad sponsored by (I believe) the American Petroleum & Gas Suppliers Labor & Mgmt Board :lol: featured the little girl begging for POTUS to sign off on the Keystone Pipeline after four long years.

Her "daddy" explained to her that all construction jobs are temporary, and that four "studies" they have show that the pipeline is safe.

Oh, and that this is a good thing for American families & their children. :wink:



Like I said, basis for everything. You wouldn't want that little girl to be homeless because her daddy doesn't have a job, would you?

I'm sure there will be a counterargument commercial soon showing that girl dying in a hospital room because of poisoning she received from drinking water. She will then die and be buried next to the graves of 1 million other children as Oil CEOs laugh and golf at the country club next to the graveyard.

Author:  bigfan [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:43 pm ]
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Despite those cuts and the loss of other funding, the city has maintained or increased spending on those programs during Emanuel's tenure

Uhmmm, was this part of the story ignored?

How anyone could dislike the job this guy has done is close to amazing so far. You walked into a job that has been controlled by unions since time began and you told them to F off, you had a budget that the previous mayor sold out to a parking company for life, he put a bandaid on the lazy ass Mofos at City Hall not working and asking for more Furlough days!!!! not to mention the $100 mill that was blown on trying to get the 2106 Olympics (Remember that) and in this case, Rahm doesnt have the power to print his own money to try and make everything better.

Anyone that was willing to take that job under those circumstances, I am 100% OK with!!!

the guy was already worth $20 Mill, he could have taken the easy way in life, some investment banking job making millions and year, but instead the guy took on the problem of how to fund all these fucker pension liabilities!

Do you realize that Gerry Chico and Carol Mosley Braun are the others who ran. Honestly, if Rahm doesnt take that job, this city falls apart. almost literally. Chico would be like hiring the Mexican Mayor Daley and Carol Mosely Braun is a favor away from being in jail for stealing campaign funds.

So, if you think you had a better option, or even a close to better one, please let me know.

Author:  Rod [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:18 pm ]
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The City is falling apart anyway. He may tell the Unions to fuck off but he hasn't made many strides toward fixing the pension problem. I don't see him being a whole lot different than Daley. He just doesn't have the luxury of as much cash to fuck around with. As for why he didn't ride off into the sunset with his millions? I couldn't really say, but I would guess that like most guys who taste a little power, that power is hard to let go.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:20 pm ]
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That and I think he'll come out of this with the potential to be worth considerably more.

Author:  Rod [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:21 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
That and I think he'll come out of this with the potential to be worth considerably more.


Now how could that be? He's just a public servant. :lol:

Author:  Baby McNown [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:25 pm ]
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
I think the problem is that Rahm has insulated himself with people who just tell him what he wants to hear. Everything his Campaign / administration does is so well scripted that I honesty believe he thought he was telling the truth with the whole "Children's Fund" thing. He wouldn't have gone out saying that if he hadn't been told by the speed camera companies that it was true.

Here's a thought. For ONCE in your life in here, post a cogent thought instead of just taking pot shots. At least when I typed that, it was an actual thought on the actual topic of conversation. You're just a gigantic penis.

Author:  bigfan [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:28 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
That and I think he'll come out of this with the potential to be worth considerably more.


He was Chief of Staff and worked in 2 administrations, there is no way he is going to be worth more after this shitty job. Are you aware how much money this guy could have made as a Lobbyist or an Investment Banker again?

Sure, he has an Ego, he is 5'2" and loves acting like the big man and if you are going to be Mayor, you better have an ego, especially when you think you had a chance to fix this mess.

Telling the unions off was a HUGE move. It was always taken for granted you needed the unions push to be Mayor, he didnt think so, his thought was there was more smart people in the city than Union idiots and he was right. They just dont go and walk the streets with Union posters and have rallys.

he is about as good of a mayor as this city could have hoped for.

Author:  bigfan [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:29 pm ]
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Baby McNown wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
I think the problem is that Rahm has insulated himself with people who just tell him what he wants to hear. Everything his Campaign / administration does is so well scripted that I honesty believe he thought he was telling the truth with the whole "Children's Fund" thing. He wouldn't have gone out saying that if he hadn't been told by the speed camera companies that it was true.

Here's a thought. For ONCE in your life in here, post a cogent thought instead of just taking pot shots. At least when I typed that, it was an actual thought on the actual topic of conversation. You're just a gigantic penis.


congrats on your Giant member Big chi

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:38 pm ]
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Baby McNown wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
I think the problem is that Rahm has insulated himself with people who just tell him what he wants to hear. Everything his Campaign / administration does is so well scripted that I honesty believe he thought he was telling the truth with the whole "Children's Fund" thing. He wouldn't have gone out saying that if he hadn't been told by the speed camera companies that it was true.

Here's a thought. For ONCE in your life in here, post a cogent thought instead of just taking pot shots.


Image

Author:  Baby McNown [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:45 pm ]
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Read. Comprehend. Wow it was so nice having an actual ACA discussion last night. Glad the fucktards came back tonight. It's gonna be fun. :roll:

Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:47 pm ]
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Baby McNown wrote:
Read. Comprehend. Wow it was so nice having an actual ACA discussion last night. Glad the fucktards came back tonight. It's gonna be fun. :roll:


So now you're also into the name calling instead of giving your thoughts. Got it.

Author:  Baby McNown [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:49 pm ]
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Yup. You're most certainly on the list with Chas where I'm not even going to bother trying to be civil.

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