Do the people who stayed have something in common (not usually late)?

It's my knee-jerk reaction to give management the benefit of the doubt too. I mean, if those guys weren't wiser, smarter, and better, why would they be in management positions anyway?

That was my knee jerk reaction to figuring out whether it was discrimination, which was his question. Asshole.

My company learned a long time ago that things like this don't matter. Granted, our folks are mostly salary based, so we don't have to worry about breaks, overtime, and the like. For hourly employees, it is important that proper time cards or kept otherwise you open yourself up to liability.

We've gone completely to flex hours where folks are free to come in anytime between 6:30-9:00 and leave as appropriate based on their start time.

I've done this before with people who are chronically late. Like 2-3 times a month, and more than just a few minutes. I don't like doing it but sometimes you have to send a message.

I hate being late to work, social functions, band practice, family parties, anything. My wife sometimes has no sense of urgency as to when we need to leave the house. If I'm not a few minutes early, I'm late.

No one wants you at their party early.

One of my sisters-in-law always arrives about a half-hour early. The last time we hosted a party I was in the shower and she was ringing the goddamn doorbell. My wife told her to wait in the car until noon.

No one wants you at their party early.

Not necessarily true. Early at the party means more hands to help out.

I've done this before with people who are chronically late. Like 2-3 times a month, and more than just a few minutes. I don't like doing it but sometimes you have to send a message.

I hate being late to work, social functions, band practice, family parties, anything. My wife sometimes has no sense of urgency as to when we need to leave the house. If I'm not a few minutes early, I'm late.


A work of advice, BR. Simply saying "nope" or "i have no excuse" comes across to management as saying 'leave me alone.' Its just not the best way to go about it. Now, maybe sending you home isn't the best either but you can always ALWAYS plead ignorance once. I set my alarm clock wrong, it was -7 and traffic was bad, there was an accident I had to dizzy around, my train was running behind, etc. Anything is at least better than "nope" and saying "well everybody else is always late" isn't a glowing defense either. From the management standpoint, rules and rules and if you are supposed to start at 8am and you clock in at 8:02 you are late. Yeah, it sucks and I certainly am not that petty and agree that management should have given you some sort of warning. But the bottom line is that it is up to the employee to be at work on time.

Yeah, I could see Frank being a good mule ... grab that cooler ... light that grill ... tote that barge ... lift that bale ...

Tell them that time may not actually exist and that we don't yet have a strong enough understanding of the universe to know and therefore it is impossible to ever be late.

grab that cooler ... light that grill ... tote that barge ... lift that bale ...

Hypothetical badrogue17 was at work on time this morning.

Zoom.....what am I doing!?

Cleaning my gutters.

I hate being late to work, social functions, band practice, family parties, anything. My wife sometimes has no sense of urgency as to when we need to leave the house. If I'm not a few minutes early, I'm late.

Oh Frank, more of the great puzzle of marriage comes out. My wife and I have this same difference. I am usually early or on time for everything. She is on time if she is 10-15 mins late. Took us a long time to get this one worked out. We still struggle with it at times. I have had to learn that for some things it is ok to be late and I can go on her schedule. But at other times I have learned that if there is something I have to be on time for we have drove separately.

Oh Frank, more of the great puzzle of marriage comes out. My wife and I have this same difference. I am usually early or on time for everything. She is on time if she is 10-15 mins late. Took us a long time to get this one worked out. We still struggle with it at times. I have had to learn that for some things it is ok to be late and I can go on her schedule. But at other times I have learned that if there is something I have to be on time for we have drove separately.