The father said he told the teen not to move, but reportedly saw the teen reach for something, at which point police say the father opened fire. The teen did not have a gun.

This defense needs to stop. You can pretty much just shoot anyone now and claim you saw them reach for something. BOOM dead.

He was in his home and the daughter didnt identify him... He's lucky he got a warning not to move, I dont know if I would have given him the opportunity.

Probably nobody.

in the heat of the moment you would not have known it was "false" information.

This defense needs to stop. You can pretty much just shoot anyone now and claim you saw them reach for something. BOOM dead.

in the heat of the moment you would not have known it was "false" information.

I get that, but I can't imagine having to live the rest of your life knowing that you murdered someone based on a lie your daughter told you.

If this was your daughter, you would have just murdered someone based on false information she gave to you. How would you be able to live with that the rest of your life?

This defense needs to stop. You can pretty much just shoot anyone now and claim you saw them reach for something. BOOM dead.

But you do agree that this was murder and somebody should be charged, right?

But you do agree that this was murder and somebody should be charged, right?

I agree.

This kid was probably just reaching to pull his pants back up.

I dont think anyone should be charged. A man saw someone in his home that shouldnt have been. It's tragic and everyone's lives will be forever altered by it.

It is clearly not murder.

Maybe he shouldnt be sneaking into someone's home. If I'm in someone's home and they have a gun on me and tell me not to move, I stand the fuck still. I dont care if my wang is flopping in the breeze.

OR

The dad walked in and shot first without asking questions. Then his daughter and he came up with this story where no one is guilty.

That's a pretty crazy opinion, IMO. An innocent teenager was murdered and the father and daughter were responsible, intentionally or not. I'm not a lawyer, so I wouldn't know if it was manslaughter, murder, etc, but I cant believe somebody would read this story and not agree that a crime was committed.

OR

The dad walked in and shot first without asking questions. Then his daughter and he came up with this story where no one is guilty.

Trespassing maybe? I dont know if a minor can legally give permission to enter their parents home. This wasnt like he was invited in for dinner and the dad shot him. This was the middle of the night and chaotic. If my daughter is telling me point blank she doesnt know this guy who is in her room in the middle of the night, I am doing what I think is necessary to protect my children.

It is clearly not murder.

if that is the case then you make up a better story than that. The guy forced his way into her window and was raping the girl. Boom dead.

Perhaps. But like RFDC said, why make up a story that ends with your daughter lying?

You busting in the room with a gun should be enough to protect her. If they were in middle of fucking and the kid doesn't stop, then yeah go ahead and shoot him. That isn't what happened though. It reads like the dad just wanted to shoot the kid fucking his daughter.