I worked on a mega hog farm as a youngster. I performed most of the things in that video. Looking back, it was sick. The conditions were sick. They were treated as things, not animals.

I'm not going to bother reading that page because I pretty much know what's gonna be on there.
But if you eat meat, it's not pretty. I've killed quite a few dinners in my life... I mean hell I shot me a doe in front of a couple fawns before. You gotta unzip the bastard, hang em by the back legs, cool the meat by shoving a 20lb bag of ice in the chest cavity... then cut the legs off and all kinds of shit. I've skinned em, cleaned em, dumped guts.
We're predators. It's what we do.

Killing them in the wild is one thing. That's humane, in my eyes.

Then again, I eat meat from stores so I'm a hypocrite no matter how they're treated.

I wish more of you cocksuckers would stop eating beef and pork. The price is too damn high.

We've raised every form of farm animal here at some point in the last three generations, most were butchered here. Since I was little and the chicken coop went away, only beef cattle. I've only been at the butcher shop one time on a kill day- that was and is enough. Every single day the animals are on my place they are well treated by any standard, and yet I still feel something when we load them up for the last trip. I think our mastery of the animals is God-given, but it does not come without responsibility and conscience.

Many people have died to make sure you can hold an opinion divergent to mine, and to make sure I can make up my own mind.

That's the great thing about the Jews and the Muslims ... can you begin to imagine the fucking price of bacon otherwise?

I thought this happened at birth. Besides what does it have to do with the conditions animals live in and the way some of them are killed? Is it done that way on your farm?

I was trying to say a person can choose to be vegan, and it does not offend me. I should be able to choose to be an omnivore and not offend anyone either. I think I treat my animals well, I am sure others do not.

I worked on a mega hog farm as a youngster. I performed most of the things in that video. Looking back, it was sick. The conditions were sick. They were treated as things, not animals.

Vegan propaganda sounds like something I should have done prior to the CSFMB tournament to have a chance against my guy leash.

I think if your morality allows for the consumption of animals but is uncomfortable with their treatment in mass slaughter spaces then vegan "propaganda" and other literature can be useful for the way they expose conditions in some farms. Proponents of PETA for example and meat consumers will never agree on the notion of killing an animal for food, but there can be overlapping concerns between the two groups when it comes to treatment.

Turkey bacon is better.

Turkey bacon is better.

I disagree.

You're probably right. I used to love it but whenever I see pork bacon now it just looks disgusting. Too much fat.

I know. I used to love the fat and just about every part of the pig.