Sham?
War Emblem?
Alysheba?
Seabiscuit?
Alydar?
Risen Star?
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| Author: | RFDC [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Greatest Horse to Never Win Triple Crown? |
| Sham? War Emblem? Alysheba? Seabiscuit? Alydar? Risen Star? |
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| Author: | Seacrest [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Greatest Horse to Never Win Triple Crown? |
Trigger |
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| Author: | Chus [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:50 pm ] |
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Seacrest wrote: Trigger 
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| Author: | SomeGuy [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:51 pm ] |
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Mr Ed Artax |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:51 pm ] |
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Palace Malice |
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| Author: | SomeGuy [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:56 pm ] |
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The horse tha fucked that guy to death. That was a tough loss. |
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| Author: | redskingreg [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:58 pm ] |
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| Author: | DannyB [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:58 pm ] |
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Silver Charm biatches. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:59 pm ] |
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redskingreg wrote:
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| Author: | spmack [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Greatest Horse to Never Win Triple Crown? |
RFDC, does the horse have to win the Derby and Preakness? If not, then my choice would be Wise Dan. I believe he's 7 now, so I wouldn't imagine him racing too much longer. He had to get emergency colic surgery last month, but his trainer said he came out of it Ok and may be racing by end of the summer....I'm holding out hope for the Arlington Million. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Greatest Horse to Never Win Triple Crown? |
Nah no specific qualifiers. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:27 pm ] |
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Larry Horse |
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| Author: | Chus [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:39 pm ] |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:54 pm ] |
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The obvious answer is Man o' War. He may be the greatest horse that ever lived. If we're going more recently it's undoubtedly Spectacular Bid. You can make a strong case that the Bid was better than Secretariat. This might be the most impressive race any horse has ever run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmsArdDmsMQ |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Greatest Horse to Never Win Triple Crown? |
Was the jockey drunk? |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Greatest Horse to Never Win Triple Crown? |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: The obvious answer is Man o' War. He may be the greatest horse that ever lived. If we're going more recently it's undoubtedly Spectacular Bid. You can make a strong case that the Bid was better than Secretariat. This might be the most impressive race any horse has ever run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmsArdDmsMQ Man o War, Secretariat, and Spectacular Bid in a race. Who ya got? |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Greatest Horse to Never Win Triple Crown? |
RFDC wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: The obvious answer is Man o' War. He may be the greatest horse that ever lived. If we're going more recently it's undoubtedly Spectacular Bid. You can make a strong case that the Bid was better than Secretariat. This might be the most impressive race any horse has ever run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmsArdDmsMQ Man o War, Secretariat, and Spectacular Bid in a race. Who ya got? What's the distance and the surface? I've definitely got Secretariat at a buck and a half on grass. I'm taking Bid on dirt at a mile and a quarter. Man o' War is way outside my time zone. It's tougher for me to place him. To some degree it's a generational thing. My grandfather would argue Man o' War was the best, my dad would say Citation, and I've gotta go Secretariat. I don't think there's any right answer. It would be a hell of a race. |
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| Author: | Ed_from_Lisle [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Greatest Horse to Never Win Triple Crown? |
What about Zenyatta? 2010 was the year I really got into this sport. I was at Mr. D's in Arlington Park for the Preakness that year. They showed the last race on the big screen inside the track. I went out to watch, and it was only me and some other dude standing out there. What a race. She almost won. I don't remember if she even ran the Triple Crown races or what. For the more seasoned horse players, please share your thoughts on Zenyatta. I'll hang up and listen for your answer. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Greatest Horse to Never Win Triple Crown? |
Ed_from_Lisle wrote: What about Zenyatta? 2010 was the year I really got into this sport. I was at Mr. D's in Arlington Park for the Preakness that year. They showed the last race on the big screen inside the track. I went out to watch, and it was only me and some other dude standing out there. What a race. She almost won. I don't remember if she even ran the Triple Crown races or what. For the more seasoned horse players, please share your thoughts on Zenyatta. I'll hang up and listen for your answer. Zenyatta was a hell of a horse. A filly that whips colts is quite a thing. But I could never really rate even the greatest mare with the best colts. When we talk about the greatest horses of the American turf, I think a resume that includes the Triple Crown races is probably a prerequisite. Of course there are many great horses that took different paths or had different specialties, or even that were also rans in their own Triple Crowns and went on to greatness later. John Henry, Kelso, Forego all come immediately to mind, great geldings that won at the top classes forever. Dr. Fager who was unbeatable at a mile. And you've got Cigar. It took Bill Mott a long time to figure out he wasn't a turf horse. Then there's something like Native Dancer who lost only one race- the Kentucky Derby. I would think he'd have to be in any conversation of the greatest horses of the 20th century. |
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| Author: | newper [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:24 pm ] |
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How about Cigar??? 16 consecutive wins ought to count for something. Edit: I see JORR brought him up. |
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| Author: | newper [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:28 pm ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Zenyatta was a hell of a horse. A filly that whips colts is quite a thing. But I could never really rate even the greatest mare with the best colts. You know, that is kind of interesting that in horses, the gap is a lot smaller in athletic performance than humans. I don't know enough about dog racing to see if it applies there too, but that would be interesting to see if the smaller the animal, the bigger the gap in gender performance. |
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| Author: | W_Z [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:30 pm ] |
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Batman: the Horse and Ol' Felcher. |
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| Author: | Juiced [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:33 pm ] |
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Silver Bullseye Artax Epona Spirit Black Stallion |
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| Author: | W_Z [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:35 pm ] |
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Juiced wrote: Artax 
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| Author: | Hawkeye Vince [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:40 pm ] |
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Throwing more into the pile Ruffian Seabiscuit Barbaro (we dont know what he would have become) Alydar (had to run against Affirmed) |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Greatest Horse to Never Win Triple Crown? |
newper wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Zenyatta was a hell of a horse. A filly that whips colts is quite a thing. But I could never really rate even the greatest mare with the best colts. You know, that is kind of interesting that in horses, the gap is a lot smaller in athletic performance than humans. I don't know enough about dog racing to see if it applies there too, but that would be interesting to see if the smaller the animal, the bigger the gap in gender performance. It might just be the species. Some species actually have more athletic and dominant females. Hyenas and meerkats, for example. |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Greatest Horse to Never Win Triple Crown? |
Someone please remind me of Big Brown. |
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| Author: | Ed_from_Lisle [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Greatest Horse to Never Win Triple Crown? |
Hawg Ass wrote: Someone please remind me of Big Brown. I seem to recall his owner or trainer being a jackass, but i bet Joe Orr knows more. Joe Orr?
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| Author: | Chus [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Greatest Horse to Never Win Triple Crown? |
Hawg Ass wrote: Someone please remind me of Big Brown. I dropped one of those this morning. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Greatest Horse to Never Win Triple Crown? |
I have no idea what the fuck JORR is talking about but I could read his horse racing thoughts all day. Way to make a boring subject interesting JORR! |
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