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Author:  badrogue17 [ Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Jesse says, Thanks Obama!
I guess the sentiment is correct as far as spending 4 BILLION on immigrant kids but 2 billion to sort things out here? Billion with a B. Yeah thats gonna happen.
(CBS) -- The Rev. Jesse Jackson and Mayor Rahm Emanuel are differing on where the fingers should be pointed when it comes to federal anti-violence help, reports WBBM Political Editor Craig Dellimore.
Jackson and Emanuel agree curbing violence involves not just police, but economic development and jobs in high crime neighborhoods; but Jackson seemed to fault President Barack Obama for funding priorities that appear to put immigrant children coming across the borders first.

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“If we can find $4 billion for those children — and we should — we can find $2 billion for Chicago. There are more children involved, and more have been killed, and more have been shot,” said Jackson.
Emanuel, Obama’s former chief of staff, disagreed with Jackson blaming the president.
“I slightly disagree with the reverend,” Emanuel said. “I wouldn’t put this at the president’s door. I put this at the door of Washington, D.C. This has been a long time that they have stopped investing in our children, and they need to invest in our kids.”
The mayor has complained about the funding gap too.
Author:  pittmike [ Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:21 pm ]
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IDK it is just a hunch but this has been coming for quite some time. Not just the current situation but unless I read a lot of stuff wrong Hispanics will become the largest minority in a lot of areas. From a political standpoint as the pols move their attention there something has to give. Jesse is getting in front of this and saying do not forget about my power. Pols will say blow me Jesse I will find the next Hispanic equivalent to deal with.
Author:  bigfan [ Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:53 pm ]
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Jessie can start with the steps of his office where the kid was shot 2 weeks ago while he was inside giving one of this 18 speeches that week.

And I think it would be a GREAT idea for Jessie to actually be the start of a safe zone. Make it 2 square blocks around his HQ. No guns for 2 weeks, put cameras, have people watch for suspects. See if they can go 2 weeks without a shooting and then expand the area.

Quinn gave $50 mill to stop this. Just that nobody knows where it went.

I know the Fed govt has lost more money than this, but for such a small area of the city, $50 Mill, just gone???? and a handful of people arent joining Blago in a cell? Of course $50 mill did turn up in Quinns fundraiser account.
Author:  Scorehead [ Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:11 pm ]
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How about this:

1. Barry should enforce the immigration laws that are in existence. This clown talks like illegal immigration is a new problem & that they need to start from ground zero. WTF have you been doing about this for the last 6 years? We have laws. Enforce them.

2. CPD should do their job & protect citizens & step up patrols in high crime areas.

Shocking that everyone is asking for more money.
Author:  Nas [ Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:15 pm ]
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He's deported more people than any president in history for starters.

Anywhere there is oppression the drug profession flourishes.
Author:  Scorehead [ Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:20 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
He's deported more people than any president in history for starters.

Anywhere there is oppression the drug profession flourishes.


He has also let more illegals into this country than any president in history. This is a fucking disaster. The last 6 years have been a disaster. Shocking that a Chicago politician is incompetent.
Author:  Nas [ Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:24 pm ]
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Scorehead wrote:
Nas wrote:
He's deported more people than any president in history for starters.

Anywhere there is oppression the drug profession flourishes.


He has also let more illegals into this country than any president in history. This is a fucking disaster. The last 6 years have been a disaster. Shocking that a Chicago politician is incompetent.


WRONG. FEWER undocumented workers have entered our country. I'm going to need you to try harder to not create your own facts my friend.
Author:  SomeGuy [ Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:25 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
He's deported more people than any president in history for starters.

Anywhere there is oppression the drug profession flourishes.


That's what you're going to lead with?

Deportation, in this instance, may not mean what you think it means.
Author:  Scorehead [ Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:32 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
Nas wrote:
He's deported more people than any president in history for starters.

Anywhere there is oppression the drug profession flourishes.


He has also let more illegals into this country than any president in history. This is a fucking disaster. The last 6 years have been a disaster. Shocking that a Chicago politician is incompetent.


WRONG. FEWER undocumented workers have entered our country. I'm going to need you to try harder to not create your own facts my friend.


Now you are shifting gears & changing the argument...creating the facts if you will.
Undocumented workers & illegal immigrants are two entirely different things.
Author:  Nas [ Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:33 pm ]
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SomeGuy wrote:
Nas wrote:
He's deported more people than any president in history for starters.

Anywhere there is oppression the drug profession flourishes.


That's what you're going to lead with?

Deportation, in this instance, may not mean what you think it means.


I'm not sure what you were expecting. Hispanics were furious with President Obama his first few years in office. Then he focused on deporting violent criminals. To say that he hasn't done anything just isn't accurate at all. He's failed with legislation (Dream Act and Comprehensive Immigration Reform) but he's provided funding for the border and his deportation record speaks for itself.

Personally I didn't like the route he took. He was trying to appease people who never had any intention on working with him and he ended up destroying families.
Author:  Nas [ Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:38 pm ]
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Scorehead wrote:
Nas wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
Nas wrote:
He's deported more people than any president in history for starters.

Anywhere there is oppression the drug profession flourishes.


He has also let more illegals into this country than any president in history. This is a fucking disaster. The last 6 years have been a disaster. Shocking that a Chicago politician is incompetent.


WRONG. FEWER undocumented workers have entered our country. I'm going to need you to try harder to not create your own facts my friend.


Now you are shifting gears & changing the argument...creating the facts if you will.
Undocumented workers & illegal immigrants are two entirely different things.


Some people would argue that they are the same thing but one is a less offensive name.
Author:  Nas [ Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:48 pm ]
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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... -other-pr/
Author:  bigfan [ Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jesse says, Thanks Obama!
Nas wrote:

I'm not sure what you were expecting. Hispanics were furious with President Obama his first few years in office. Then he focused on deporting violent criminals. To say that he hasn't done anything just isn't accurate at all. He's failed with legislation (Dream Act and Comprehensive Immigration Reform) but he's provided funding for the border and his deportation record speaks for itself.

Personally I didn't like the route he took. He was trying to appease people who never had any intention on working with him and he ended up destroying families.


If I typed that Chus and Baby mac would have 4 responses by now.
Author:  Douchebag [ Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:29 am ]
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Scorehead wrote:

2. CPD should do their job & protect citizens & step up patrols in high crime areas.

Shocking that everyone is asking for more money.

And your idea of putting the national guard on every street corner would be free?
Author:  Chus [ Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:32 am ]
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Nas wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
Nas wrote:
He's deported more people than any president in history for starters.

Anywhere there is oppression the drug profession flourishes.


He has also let more illegals into this country than any president in history. This is a fucking disaster. The last 6 years have been a disaster. Shocking that a Chicago politician is incompetent.


WRONG. FEWER undocumented workers have entered our country. I'm going to need you to try harder to not create your own facts my friend.


http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2 ... s-gaining/

Wrong again, Scorehead.
Author:  Chus [ Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:34 am ]
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bigfan wrote:
Nas wrote:

I'm not sure what you were expecting. Hispanics were furious with President Obama his first few years in office. Then he focused on deporting violent criminals. To say that he hasn't done anything just isn't accurate at all. He's failed with legislation (Dream Act and Comprehensive Immigration Reform) but he's provided funding for the border and his deportation record speaks for itself.

Personally I didn't like the route he took. He was trying to appease people who never had any intention on working with him and he ended up destroying families.


If I typed that Chus and Baby mac would have 4 responses by now.


Can you please provide examples of me following you all over the place? The search function works, so this should be easy.

kthxbye
Author:  Don Tiny [ Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:38 am ]
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Douchebag wrote:
Scorehead wrote:

2. CPD should do their job & protect citizens & step up patrols in high crime areas.

Shocking that everyone is asking for more money.

And your idea of putting the national guard on every street corner would be free?



Certainly not in any sense of the word I'm aware of.
Author:  bigfan [ Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:43 am ]
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Scorehead wrote:

2. CPD should do their job & protect citizens & step up patrols in high crime areas.



Granted I am not down there after 3 PM! but during the day, I go to 75th and 83rd once a week, because I like to and I see tons of cops. They cruise every block all day. You just cant expect police to be everywhere.
Author:  Hatchetman [ Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:46 am ]
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Maybe throw the coke buyers in the slammer. :?:
Author:  Bagels [ Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:19 am ]
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Hatchetman wrote:
Maybe throw the coke buyers in the slammer. :?:


that always works
Author:  Scorehead [ Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jesse says, Thanks Obama!
Douchebag wrote:
Scorehead wrote:

2. CPD should do their job & protect citizens & step up patrols in high crime areas.

Shocking that everyone is asking for more money.


And your idea of putting the national guard on every street corner would be free?


While it isn't free, I would rather do this than hand Rahm a bunch on money to solve the problem.
Author:  Seacrest [ Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:31 am ]
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Scorehead wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
Scorehead wrote:

2. CPD should do their job & protect citizens & step up patrols in high crime areas.

Shocking that everyone is asking for more money.


And your idea of putting the national guard on every street corner would be free?


While it isn't free, I would rather do this than hand Rahm a bunch on money to solve the problem.


I don't believe that you have thought this through SH.

You don't want to hand Rahm the money, but you do want "barry" to handle this with the national guard?
Author:  Chus [ Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:39 am ]
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Seacrest wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
Scorehead wrote:

2. CPD should do their job & protect citizens & step up patrols in high crime areas.

Shocking that everyone is asking for more money.


And your idea of putting the national guard on every street corner would be free?


While it isn't free, I would rather do this than hand Rahm a bunch on money to solve the problem.


I don't believe that you have thought this through SH.

You don't want to hand Rahm the money, but you do want "barry" to handle this with the national guard?


Scorehad, the lover of small gov't, wants a police state?
Author:  Don Tiny [ Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:59 am ]
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Chus wrote:
Scorehad, the lover of small gov't, wants a police state?



No, just far away in Chicago ... nowhere near white suburbia ...
Author:  Douchebag [ Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:03 pm ]
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Seacrest wrote:

I don't believe that you have thought this through SH.

Shocking...
Author:  Scorehead [ Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jesse says, Thanks Obama!
Chus wrote:
Nas wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
Nas wrote:
He's deported more people than any president in history for starters.

Anywhere there is oppression the drug profession flourishes.


He has also let more illegals into this country than any president in history. This is a fucking disaster. The last 6 years have been a disaster. Shocking that a Chicago politician is incompetent.


WRONG. FEWER undocumented workers have entered our country. I'm going to need you to try harder to not create your own facts my friend.


http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2 ... s-gaining/

Wrong again, Scorehead.


I believe these numbers like I believe the Chicago crime numbers.
Author:  Regular Reader [ Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:28 pm ]
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Scorehead wrote:
Chus wrote:
Nas wrote:
WRONG. FEWER undocumented workers have entered our country. I'm going to need you to try harder to not create your own facts my friend.


http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2 ... s-gaining/

Wrong again, Scorehead.


I believe these numbers like I believe the Chicago crime #'s.


In fairness, have you noticed that neither the Heritage Foundation, nor the propaganda wing of the RNC (FoxNews) don't actually dispute the numbers Nas & Chus cited?

Those damned facts and their damned liberal bias I guess.
Author:  leashyourkids [ Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:30 pm ]
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:lol: How convenient. His narrative is proven wrong so he blames the numbers!
Author:  SomeGuy [ Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:39 pm ]
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Undocumented? You mean ILLEGAL, right?

Anyways, the flow of illegal immigrants into the U.S. has slowed because of a poor economy and not because of some new push to enforce the border or enforce employer laws.

The deportation thing is fine, congrats.
Author:  Chus [ Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:31 pm ]
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Scorehead: Illegals are flooding into this country at an unprecedented rate. Barry is a disaster.

Chus: Actually, we are about net zero on immigration over the Mexican border under President Obama.

Scorehead: I don't believe that. Barry sucks. Democrats are crooks.

Regular Reader: No, it's true. Fox hasn't even disagreed with it.

Scorehead: DERP

CSFMB: :lol:
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