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Yeah so I think I got ripped off for $500
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Author:  Darkside [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:29 am ]
Post subject:  Yeah so I think I got ripped off for $500
I'd been thinking about paving my driveway for some time now. Bob, my neighbor across the street, whom I trust completely (he's always been totally awesome to us, very helpful, friendly, we watch each others houses when we're on vacation and collect each others mail when we're gone, stuff like that) knows a guy who owns his own paving company and he was having him repave his drive and Ron, the next door neighbor's as well (that guy has two drives). I guess Bob was good friends with this guys dad who originally owned the company but passed a few years ago.

So he comes out the second to last week of April to talk to Bob about his and to Ron about theirs. This was when my mom was in the hospital so I wasn't home but the wife was, he quoted her about $2100 which seems high. She said I wasn't home, he wanted her to call me but she refused as I was in ICU with Mom.

He came back once while I was working, and the wife was home but she didn't answer the door.

Came back on May 2. I was home this time. Talked him down to $1700 and he said he would do the job in about two weeks. I paid $500 down, as did Bob and Ron I think paid $1000 for his two drives.

Two weeks go by and it's not done. Said weather wasn't cooperative. Then another couple weeks. He said there was a death in the family and he would be travelling for a few weeks.

I had not personally called him, Bob did because he knew the guy and I was kinda letting it go thru him. He calls Bob back each time after a few days, says "oh it's been raining, can't do it until it really kinda dries out" which I get. It has been a rainy spring/summer.

But today is July 19 and still no drive. So Bob called him a few days ago but I still hadn't heard anything. So I call finally today and my calls go straight to VM.

Finally I look this guy up on the internet and see that this is a routine. The death in the family excuse, poor workmanship, not showing up, not calling back, one guy he told that his check for $2700 bounced and he'd need a cashier's check, which the guy did thinking he made a mistake with the funds transfer only to find out the NEXT day that the original check not only was cleared but literally cashed at the originating bank.

So today I called and left a message saying I require a call in the next 24-48 hours.

At this point, I want my driveway paved. I was thinking I'd just go with another company, one that doesn't have shit reviews online and try to get my deposit back but I doubt that's going to happen. It seems that many people have taken this guy to small claims or filed complaints with the State's Atty.

So, I suppose this is my fault for not checking online about this guy. But he was someone that someone I trusted vouched for. I guess that's a lesson learned, an expensive one.

For the record, he lives here in town. His address is on the BBB complaints. I drove past his place this morning, to see if it was an office or a house or what.
Author:  Douchebag [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:36 am ]
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Would this guy be interested investing in an online radio station?
Author:  Darkside [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Yeah so I think I got ripped off for $500
Douchebag wrote:
Would this guy be interested investing in an online radio station?

I do feel like a dope. Usually I'd have researched this or gone with a real contractor. I thought I was getting a deal through a friend.
Author:  pittmike [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:40 am ]
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If I make it to your fest the Pittsburgh guy can stop by to "talk" to him. 8)
Author:  leashyourkids [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:41 am ]
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God invented lawyers so people don't blame everything on Satan. God invented contractors so people don't blame everything on lawyers.

Just flood coat it yourself. Those are high ass prices, considering the job is almost all labor.

Edit: I don't know how big your driveway is though.
Author:  Douchebag [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:42 am ]
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During Lakemoor Fest, let's have all attendees go over to this guy's place with bags on our heads. Would definitely scare the shit out of him.
Author:  Nas [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:50 am ]
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Sounds like Joel Ullmer from Chicagoland Plumbing & Sewer Inc. Some people are just in business to steal.
Author:  Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:58 am ]
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I would think the three of you just approach him with legal action. Usually once these types of morons see a note like that, the refund comes pretty quickly.
Author:  badrogue17 [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:59 am ]
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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
I would think the three of you just approach him with legal action. Usually once these types of morons see a note like that, the refund comes pretty quickly.

Agree, have Panthro draft something up in his own special way. Fucker will cave like a soufflé.
Author:  Nas [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:00 pm ]
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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
I would think the three of you just approach him with legal action. Usually once these types of morons see a note like that, the refund comes pretty quickly.


Doesn't always work out like that.
Author:  312player [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:02 pm ]
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Damn...that blows...How the hell does your neighbor not get word of this guy burning everybody over the recent weeks..months or years.
Author:  IkeSouth [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:02 pm ]
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youre not a dope, darkside. people are just assholes.
Author:  Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:03 pm ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
I would think the three of you just approach him with legal action. Usually once these types of morons see a note like that, the refund comes pretty quickly.

Agree, have Panthro draft something up in his own special way. Fucker will cave like a soufflé.


Or just have Panthro show up at the guy's house. At the least he can leave skid marks on the front lawn. At the most he can talk to the guy for a few minutes.
Author:  312player [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:04 pm ]
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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
I would think the three of you just approach him with legal action. Usually once these types of morons see a note like that, the refund comes pretty quickly.








This guy doesn't give a fuck...he's burning everybody ..he's a con artist. hell probably move to a new area n do it all over again.
Author:  SomeGuy [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:04 pm ]
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312player wrote:
Damn...that blows...How the hell does your neighbor not get word of this guy burning everybody over the recent weeks..months or years.


I'm pretty sure the neighbor got his cut.
Author:  Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:04 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
I would think the three of you just approach him with legal action. Usually once these types of morons see a note like that, the refund comes pretty quickly.


Doesn't always work out like that.


I've had it happen once and was able to work out a deal pretty quickly, but you are probably right. Its the best action I can think of.
Author:  312player [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:09 pm ]
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SomeGuy wrote:
312player wrote:
Damn...that blows...How the hell does your neighbor not get word of this guy burning everybody over the recent weeks..months or years.


I'm pretty sure the neighbor got his cut.




I'm very skeptical ...that would be my initial reaction .
Author:  pittmike [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:11 pm ]
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It is only my guess but as the numbers stay pretty low and guy figures take is chances with small claims if it comes to it. Knows people will not hire a lawyer for $500. Maybe as was pointed out you get better luck as you bunch together and let him know.

Had a dispute with a landlord once similar. Her scam was to simply ignore people and keep security deposits for no good reason. I finally got her on phone and threatened to sue her and would get my money. She actually said go ahead it will cost you more. I said no it won't my cousin is my lawyer and will do it free just to shove it up her ass.

Well a week later I got check but her last stab was it was for deposit minus the cost of what it would be to file a suit. :lol:
Author:  SomeGuy [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:27 pm ]
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Threaten physical violence on this idiot and the neighbor. They are obviously in this together.
Author:  Nas [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:30 pm ]
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312player wrote:
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
I would think the three of you just approach him with legal action. Usually once these types of morons see a note like that, the refund comes pretty quickly.


This guy doesn't give a fuck...he's burning everybody ..he's a con artist. hell probably move to a new area n do it all over again.


That or he will put the business in his wife name and do the same shit again. I Google just about everyone I do any type of business with now and ask for 3 referrals if I don't personally know you. You'll be surprised how many people are making a living stealing from people.
Author:  312player [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:45 pm ]
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Next time u watch dudes house n get his mail...leave with a big screen n play dumb when asked .
Author:  Darkside [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:48 pm ]
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No my neighbor wouldn't be involved in a ripoff. Dude is solid. He is out 500 as well and he's pissed. I just got back from his house. He took me over to the contractors house, but he wasnt home. He told me that if I don't get my money back or the work done he'll take care of me but I don't want that.
I know if I get a small claims judgment he just won't pay it. So I figure I'm pretty much out the money.
My neighbors brother in law is a homeland security Marshall. I guess he's willing to make a visit to the guys house and encourage him to refund.
Author:  stoneroses86 [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 3:04 pm ]
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If I were you, I would sue him in small claims Court. It is a very simple thing to do, and you do not even need a lawyer.

I do not normally believe in pro bono work, but I would be willing to help you completely free of charge.
Author:  Seacrest [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 3:40 pm ]
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Darkside wrote:
No my neighbor wouldn't be involved in a ripoff. Dude is solid. He is out 500 as well and he's pissed. I just got back from his house. He took me over to the contractors house, but he wasnt home. He told me that if I don't get my money back or the work done he'll take care of me but I don't want that.
I know if I get a small claims judgment he just won't pay it. So I figure I'm pretty much out the money.
My neighbors brother in law is a homeland security Marshall. I guess he's willing to make a visit to the guys house and encourage him to refund.


I thought that you owned a gun?
Author:  conns7901 [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 3:51 pm ]
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There should be at least 1500 in damage done to this guys house.
Author:  FavreFan [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:30 pm ]
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Call a couple hard, pipe hittin CSFMBers to go to work on the homes with a pair of pliers and a blow torch.
Author:  SomeGuy [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:35 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Call a couple hard, pipe hittin CSFMBers to go to work on the homes with a pair of pliers and a blow torch.


Break all of this mm motherfuckers windows and then cut his fucking head off.
Author:  spmack [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:52 pm ]
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Take him on Judge Mathis.

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Author:  Baby McNown [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:09 pm ]
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Have Chas' lawyer go after him.
Author:  Hussra [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:19 pm ]
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pittmike wrote:
If I make it to your fest the Pittsburgh guy can stop by to "talk" to him. 8)


Pittsburgh's quietly one of the most mobbed up cities in all of Western Pennsylvania.

j/k.

Did some work for Ladbroke once upon a time. Pittsburgh's mob guys are serious biz. Better off not getting involved with them on either end of the deal.
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