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Author:  Hatchetman [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:00 am ]
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In case you hadn't seen it, pretty solid. Takes a minute to load the PDF.

http://photodesk.chicagotribune.com.s3. ... atings.pdf
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:25 am ]
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That's a pretty fucking depressing cartoon, but its real.
Author:  Hatchetman [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:28 am ]
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concur. cuts through all the bullshit right to the heart of the matter.
Author:  Godfella [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:31 am ]
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Wow. That was powerful.

Scott Stantis is a terrific cartoonist.

Part of the job of any editorial cartoonist is to get a reaction.

Mission accomplished.
Author:  Ed_from_Lisle [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:34 am ]
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Holy crap is that powerful. Kudos to him sharing.
Author:  Tall Midget [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:18 pm ]
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Wow. There is a lot of truth in his statement that "the beatings never really stop."
Author:  Seacrest [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:38 pm ]
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Tall Midget wrote:
Wow. There is a lot of truth in his statement that "the beatings never really stop."


They become a different kind of beating. One which is worse than the physical beating.

But thankfully, his conclusion is not always true.
Author:  pittmike [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:30 pm ]
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As much as actual abuse the same can be said of fear.
Author:  Furious Styles [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:38 pm ]
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Wow. Just wow.
Author:  Tall Midget [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:40 pm ]
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Seacrest wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
Wow. There is a lot of truth in his statement that "the beatings never really stop."


They become a different kind of beating. One which is worse than the physical beating.

But thankfully, his conclusion is not always true.


The physical "punishment" I received as a child has reverberated across multiple decades and has had a devastating impact on my life.
Author:  Seacrest [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:53 pm ]
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Tall Midget wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
Wow. There is a lot of truth in his statement that "the beatings never really stop."


They become a different kind of beating. One which is worse than the physical beating.

But thankfully, his conclusion is not always true.


The physical "punishment" I received as a child has reverberated across multiple decades and has had a devastating impact on my life.


I'm sorry to hear that this happened to you also.

After years of hiding in the dark I have found my way into the light. I'm incredibly blessed in many ways and my wife is the best blessing of all.
Author:  Peoria Matt [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:19 pm ]
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Seacrest and TM, I am sorry that happened to you.
Author:  Godfella [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:12 pm ]
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Stantis should receive a Pulitzer for this piece.

The more I look at it the more the message resonates.
Author:  Peoria Matt [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:14 pm ]
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Godfella wrote:
Stantis should receive a Pulitzer for this piece.

The more I look at it the more the message resonates.


Yes.

I can't remember a more powerful cartoon.
Author:  Seacrest [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:38 pm ]
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Peoria Matt wrote:
Seacrest and TM, I am sorry that happened to you.


Thanks for the kind words.

I'm sorry that it happened to anyone. I'm sure there are more people here that prefer to try and forget.
Author:  Chus [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:46 pm ]
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Tall Midget wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
Wow. There is a lot of truth in his statement that "the beatings never really stop."


They become a different kind of beating. One which is worse than the physical beating.

But thankfully, his conclusion is not always true.


The physical "punishment" I received as a child has reverberated across multiple decades and has had a devastating impact on my life.


Seacrest and TM, I feel your pain.

I never got hit with a tree branch, but my mother beat me with wooden spoons. She hit so hard, sometimes they broke across my body. My father needed no weapons, as his hands were enough. When I was little, he would slap me right across the face, flick the back of my head with his finger as hard as he could, or he would grab a handful of my hair, lift me off the ground, and throw me to the ground, all in the name of discipline.

In my teenage years, the open hands closed, and I was routinely shoved into a wall as hard as he could, sometimes slamming the back of my head into the wall. Sometimes, I had no idea why he was beating me. The best day of my life, to that point, was when I was big and strong enough to stand up to his cowardly ass, and I no longer had to fear him.

He is no longer with us, and the beatings stopped two decades ago, but it still affects me today. Not like it did in my childhood and early adult years, but those feelings of shame, embarrassment, worthlessness, and sheer horror have never fully left me. He also smacked my mom around a few times, once in front of me. Sometimes, I wonder how much worse his abuse would have been, if he was a heavy drinker.

Obviously, we didn't have a good relationship, for the rest of his years. My mother and I still have a terrible relationship. I'm sure a therapist would say it was because I feel she didn't do enough to protect me, and I'm sure there is some truth to that. The physical and emotional abuse from my parents, the people who were supposed to protect and nurture me, is probably why I turned to drugs in my late teens and early twenties.

The best thing that ever happened to me was meeting my now wife, thirteen years ago. It's nice being loved by somebody, who doesn't need to assault me to show it. I vowed to her that I would never lay a hand on her, or our kids, and I have kept that promise. I don't want my kids to feel what I felt. The emotional pain was worse than the physical pain. I saw how things were done the wrong way, and I have learned from their mistakes.

That's enough whining from me. Throw another log on that fire.
Author:  Peoria Matt [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:51 pm ]
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That's not whining, Chus.
Author:  Chus [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:55 pm ]
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Peoria Matt wrote:
That's not whining, Chus.


I know, I was just trying to lighten the mood. I'm going to pour a drink now.
Author:  Godfella [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:02 pm ]
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A loving wife who is also a good mother is essential to the "survival" of this stain on one's life.

The hurt will always be there along with memories but good will always overshadow bad, always. I sincerely believe that along with faith it is the only way to emerge from the darkness when it creeps in.

Thoughts and empathy with all you guys who share this stain.
Author:  Seacrest [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:08 pm ]
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My father would grab whatever was within an arms reach. Belt, tree branch wiffle ball bat or whatever. If nothing then it was his hands.

It's amazing how intense the emotional pain was reading that cartoon and TM's post. I liken it to an open wound that is beginning to close finally. My wife never worried about me hitting our kids. But the intensity that was literally beaten in to you is impossible to mask.
Author:  pittmike [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:19 pm ]
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Godfella wrote:
A loving wife who is also a good mother is essential to the "survival" of this stain on one's life.

The hurt will always be there along with memories but good will always overshadow bad, always. I sincerely believe that along with faith it is the only way to emerge from the darkness when it creeps in.

Thoughts and empathy with all you guys who share this stain.



Unfortunately, for whatever psychological reason many people in this boat end up with the same type or worse abusers themselves. And then shit gets interesting.
Author:  Peoria Matt [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:12 pm ]
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Damn.....I can't begin to tell you guys who were and still are victims of this how sorry I am and how shitty it is that you have to deal with the pain caused by this.

I couldn't even imagine how it would have messed me up.
Author:  W_Z [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:17 pm ]
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Adrian Peterson wrote:
Wow. You guys are pussies.
Author:  Chus [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:36 pm ]
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Peoria Matt wrote:
Damn.....I can't begin to tell you guys who were and still are victims of this how sorry I am and how shitty it is that you have to deal with the pain caused by this.

I couldn't even imagine how it would have messed me up.


You have nothing to be sorry for. It sucked, but it was much worse then, than it is now, and I know a lot of people had it worse than me. I don't even think about it, until I hear stories about Peterson, the cartoon, or others sharing their stories. Nothing can change the past, but I can do the right thing, and not beat my kids.

My mother used to put a spoonful of Tabasco sauce in my mouth, as punishment.
Author:  Spaulding [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:43 pm ]
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It probably doesn't mean anything, but I like you guys and think you are good people. I don't like many people.
Author:  pittmike [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:50 pm ]
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Spaulding wrote:
It probably doesn't mean anything, but I like you guys and think you are good people. I don't like many people.



Why wouldn't that mean something? That is a nice thing to say.
Author:  Spaulding [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:54 pm ]
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Because I'm more or less just a dope on the internet and those guys seem about a thousand times smarter than me. :lol:
Author:  pittmike [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:56 pm ]
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Spaulding wrote:
Because I'm more or less just a dope on the internet and those guys seem about a thousand times smarter than me. :lol:



That is debatable.
Author:  Peoria Matt [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:58 pm ]
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Spaulding wrote:
Because I'm more or less just a dope on the internet and those guys seem about a thousand times smarter than me. :lol:


I'd say we're all pretty much on the same level. That was a nice thing to say, Spaulding.
Author:  Godfella [ Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:10 pm ]
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Peoria Matt wrote:
Spaulding wrote:
Because I'm more or less just a dope on the internet and those guys seem about a thousand times smarter than me. :lol:


I'd say we're all pretty much on the same level. That was a nice thing to say, Spaulding.

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