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| Author: | pittmike [ Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Need Legal Thoughts. (Spada Jump In) |
So.... I have bragged quite some time about my son the football player. Just for background they noticed him in JR high for a while and as we are in a small district there was no doubt where he would go. No recruiting and crap. Anyway last spring he was already involved with the weight lifting program and prepping for high school football but he was still in 8th grade. He apparently got a detention on the school bus for fucking around which I guess is somewhat normal for the 14 year old boy. I never even knew about it as he did a "lunch" detention. Well the HS football boys with their "culture" decided he embarrassed the football team and needed to be beat across the ass with a duct taped rope. He took his the other kids quit. We found out a few weeks later. The thing got into huge turmoil and coach almost fired and the whole thing. Kid's parents that hit him never apologized to me personally. Skip to now my kid is in freshman year and plays both JV as well as Varsity and is pretty well appreciated by the coaches. But part of how coach kept job was a bunch of changes that did happen but I found out tonight that apparently there are still "lineman dinners" every week and other "booster" things going on. Nothing seems to have changed. So they promise some things would change and I said fine due to him wanting to play. Nothing bad to him since. Clearly the culture is still screwed. SO the question is make a money grad sue and blow up the whole thing or just watch kid like a hawk and let it go? I was really pissed tonight with pics on local facebook of Lineman Night Dinner. |
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| Author: | jimmypasta [ Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need Legal Thoughts. (Spada Jump In) |
Document dates and times. Sit on it until your son graduates,then go sue them. You don't want to make things any tougher for your son right now. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need Legal Thoughts. (Spada Jump In) |
Let it go, make sure he isnt a part of it, tell him he needs to walk if anything happens and report it. I understand the hazing, it's going to happen, but the mindfuck can be as bad as anything else. If he is playing JV as a Frosh, you dont want to screw up his ride. Plus, I think it might save you a few bucks? 
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| Author: | pittmike [ Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need Legal Thoughts. (Spada Jump In) |
Yeah he is fine. took his shit. I was torked that they did that before they were into HS officially. I took my crap in HS. But I am a little pissed and want to sue district. I guess I can later? Well they want him playing on fridays so I guess sit for now. Lol though. Bernsie is right in a sense. The damn PA football culture. 
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| Author: | Spaulding [ Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need Legal Thoughts. (Spada Jump In) |
I get it but I don't. It sounds like it sucks. Do the best you can and good luck. |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need Legal Thoughts. (Spada Jump In) |
Sue? Really? Let it go man. He's better for it. |
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| Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need Legal Thoughts. (Spada Jump In) |
What is Lineman Night Dinner? |
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| Author: | Seacrest [ Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need Legal Thoughts. (Spada Jump In) |
pittmike wrote: Yeah he is fine. took his shit. I was torked that they did that before they were into HS officially. I took my crap in HS. But I am a little pissed and want to sue district. I guess I can later? Well they want him playing on fridays so I guess sit for now. Lol though. Bernsie is right in a sense. The damn PA football culture. Make sure that your son is safe. |
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| Author: | SpiralStairs [ Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:51 pm ] |
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: What is Lineman Night Dinner? It's something my wife only let's me do on my birthday. |
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| Author: | Spaulding [ Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:56 pm ] |
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: What is Lineman Night Dinner? My understanding they have to sponsor a dinner. Make it, pay for it, reataurant, cater it. Not sure in this case. |
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| Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need Legal Thoughts. (Spada Jump In) |
That seems OK once, not every week. |
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| Author: | Spaulding [ Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:07 pm ] |
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Yeah. I'm not doing that once a week either, especially if it's families. |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:08 pm ] |
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What was punishment for kids who used the duct tape? |
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| Author: | Furious Styles [ Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:08 pm ] |
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If you want to kill the program, then Spada is your guy. |
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| Author: | Chus [ Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:10 pm ] |
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conns7901 wrote: What was punishment for kids who used the duct tape? Saturday detention 
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:19 pm ] |
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- Were did the incident happen with the older kids? - What was schools response? - Why was coach almost fired for this? |
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| Author: | Seacrest [ Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:21 pm ] |
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Furious Styles wrote: If you want to kill the program, then Spada is your guy.
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| Author: | Scorehead [ Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need Legal Thoughts. (Spada Jump In) |
Whats wrong with Linemen Dinners? |
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| Author: | Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:41 am ] |
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Yeah, I'd recommend suing Spada. |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:42 am ] |
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: What is Lineman Night Dinner? It is harmless in itself just the linemen go each week to a different parents house for dinner. I was under the impression though it was all outlawed. |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need Legal Thoughts. (Spada Jump In) |
Spaulding wrote: Yeah. I'm not doing that once a week either, especially if it's families. If there are 20 linemen on a team only one family does it each week. Once a season. |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:44 am ] |
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conns7901 wrote: What was punishment for kids who used the duct tape? 7 days suspended from school but it was hushed and we kept quiet about it. |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:46 am ] |
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conns7901 wrote: - Were did the incident happen with the older kids? - What was schools response? - Why was coach almost fired for this? AT school during an off season weight lifting session. School changed a bunch of rules Actually it was close as to whether there would be a season this year and the coach was nearly fired. He actually offered to leave to let the kids have a season. He is not the problem. |
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| Author: | Kirkwood [ Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:07 am ] |
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pittmike wrote: Spaulding wrote: Yeah. I'm not doing that once a week either, especially if it's families. If there are 20 linemen on a team only one family does it each week. Once a season. It's just pasta before gameday. Rotates before each game. |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:58 am ] |
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this isn't the legal advice i thought you'd be asking about |
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| Author: | W_Z [ Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:00 am ] |
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pittmike wrote: Yeah he is fine. took his shit. I was torked that they did that before they were into HS officially. I took my crap in HS. But I am a little pissed and want to sue district. I guess I can later? Well they want him playing on fridays so I guess sit for now. Lol though. Bernsie is right in a sense. The damn PA football culture. i'll be willing to bet that this is normal throughout the country, and probably even more intense in the south. i can somewhat attest for that in the south since i played football while living down there. |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:10 am ] |
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Furious Styles wrote: If you want to kill the program, then Spada is your guy.
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| Author: | Seacrest [ Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:24 am ] |
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pittmike wrote: conns7901 wrote: - Were did the incident happen with the older kids? - What was schools response? - Why was coach almost fired for this? AT school during an off season weight lifting session. School changed a bunch of rules Actually it was close as to whether there would be a season this year and the coach was nearly fired. He actually offered to leave to let the kids have a season. He is not the problem. If the head coach has the problems in his program then he is definitively the problem. |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:16 am ] |
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pittmike wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: What is Lineman Night Dinner? It is harmless in itself just the linemen go each week to a different parents house for dinner. I was under the impression though it was all outlawed. I don't get why this is a bad thing and should be outlawed? |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need Legal Thoughts. (Spada Jump In) |
Bagels wrote: this isn't the legal advice i thought you'd be asking about
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