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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Bombs on the CTA !!! |
What a bunch of pointless, fear-mongering, profile-enabling, happy horseshit. And how exactly does that part in red work exactly? They'll perform it during rush hour so that you won't miss your train?!? http://www.redeyechicago.com/news/cta/redeye-cta-explosive-police-search-20141024,0,7666679.story Starting next month, Chicago police officers will be swabbing the bags of some riders entering some CTA rail stations to make sure the bags don't have explosives, Chicago Police announced Friday. There is "no known terrorist threat" that prompted the new procedure, which should be starting the week of Nov. 3, said Nancy Lipman, Chicago Police commander for public transportation. "We are adding this as another protective measure," Lipman said. A team of officers will be stationed outside the turnstiles of a randomly selected rail stop to ask randomly selected riders to swab the outside of their bag. The bags are not opened. The whole process should take "less than a minute," Lipman said during a Friday morning press conference at the Clinton stop on the Green and Pink lines. "We expect it to have no impact on a customer's commute time." Amtrak and the New York City Police Department employ a similar screening service, Lipman said. The process is being paid for with a federal grant but officials could not give a dollar amount. Riders who don't want to participate in the screening can't enter that station's turnstiles but can go to another rail station. CTA spokesman Brian Steele said the screenings will be performed during rush hour so riders won't have to worry about missing their train if they undergo screenings because of continual train service. More than 229 million CTA rail rides were taken in 2013. The CTA has more than 140 rail stations. Chicago police say they will randomly select one rail station each day to set up the screening table outside the rail turnstiles. A team of four to six officers will man the table, which will have two explosives testing machines. Police will approach riders, whom they have randomly selected by picking a random number that morning, Lipman said. For example, if police pick the number 10, they will ask the 10th person who enters the station, then the 20th and so on, Lipman said. Cloth is rubbed on the bag and then inserted into the testing machine. Riders who pass the test are free to enter the turnstiles. |
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| Author: | IkeSouth [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bombs on the CTA !!! |
next step: well just come to your house and swab your asshole at random times of the day. we dont have any probable cause, but ANYONE can hide bombs up their ass soo... yea... bend over |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bombs on the CTA !!! |
IkeSouth wrote: next step: well just come to your house and swab your asshole at random times of the day. we dont have any probable cause, but ANYONE can hide bombs up their ass soo... yea... bend over Give me a narrow profile and I am OK with this, yes, you can call it Steretyping, profiling, etc, but there seems to be a little bit of a trend in the whole bombing and terror thing if we haven't noticed yet. |
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| Author: | a retard [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:11 pm ] |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:38 pm ] |
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see one post...and now infecting everything |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:40 pm ] |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:47 pm ] |
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a retard wrote: :?: You can include the guys who buy truckloads of fertilizer as well. Obviousely, after someone you know is a farmer and they buy from you all the time, dont need to chase that guy down...the guy you dont know, comes in and buys truckloads of a material that can be used for 1 of 2 things, go ahead and ask a few questions..."You own a farm?" In chicago, they are not supposed to sell you spray paint unless you are a licensed GC. Do I think it has a real effect on graffiti? No, but it's an attempt...as foolish as it is....plus now I need to go all the way down to 5500 N Clark when I want to go tagging!!!!!! |
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| Author: | a retard [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bombs on the CTA !!! |
Are you also adding all 19 year old pot smoking, video game-playing kids to your "narrow" profile? If so the trains will never leave. And my son will be glad to know he made your list 
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| Author: | bigfan [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bombs on the CTA !!! |
a retard wrote: Are you also adding all 19 year old pot smoking, video game-playing kids to your "narrow" profile? If so the trains will never leave. And my son will be glad to know he made your list that have brothers that spent 6 months training with chechnyan rebels, yup. I think that narrows it....and we have this thing that allows the US to hear who might have one of those conversations that needs to be replayed and narrows down these lists. You can start with every male under 30 who has gone back and forth to any area that is known to have terror groups. It's like buying a house. I want a house for $300K....search results 3,000.....with 3 BR and 3 BA......narrowed to 2000....with a Pool! Search results 30......those 30 you look at carefully....and I understand it is millions of people to look at ....which is why we built this place. 
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| Author: | bigfan [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:50 pm ] |
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| Author: | a retard [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:35 pm ] |
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Your original premise was to visually profile everyone getting on the train. My only point was that profiling doesn't necessarily work because not every terrorist wears a towel on his head while muttering verses from the Koran. But somehow it morphed into conducting interviews and running background checks prior to boarding the train. If what you are advocating is a "license to ride," then that is a different discussion. But FWIW I am with you on the failure of the US to adequately act on the available intel. |
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| Author: | spmack [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:05 pm ] |
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bigfan wrote: see one post...and now infecting everything So does that mean One Post + Ebola = MATCH? |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:23 pm ] |
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A retard doing great work in this thread. For those that have the time and want to read a pretty good debate on if profiling is effective or not, try this: http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/to-p ... to-profile I am with Bruce Schneier here, since he is ya know... an expert on security and all. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:31 pm ] |
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bigfan wrote: Despite his impressive credentials as "Canadian Hockey Announcer", I don't think Don Cherry is an expert on enhanced interrogation and profiling. Is he another one of your sources? |
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| Author: | MajorKong [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bombs on the CTA !!! |
Also this nugget from the Chicago Tribune: If passengers decline to participate in the screening, they will be denied entry and could be arrested under the officer’s discretion, authorities said. From time to time it shocks me just how much America has changed over the last 15 years. "Random Screenings" is really a euphemism for "We're authorizing this goon to put his hands on whoever he wants." One time I was in an airport waiting to board a flight from Philly to Chicago and they announced a random screening. So, these TSA weirdos show up and start frisking people, all the while there is this strange small talk going on between the agent and passenger: (I'm not really putting my hands on you.) (I agree, and even if you were you're just doing your job) "So you were in the Marines, huh? Well thank you for your service (and for making sure i'm not a terrorist.)" Lucky me, I get screened. And, after satisfying himself that I didn't have a dirty bomb in my underwear, he moves on. About 2 minutes later, while still waiting to board, I look to my left and see another TSA agent standing around doing nothing. He looks up and locks eyes. Naturally this Michael Chiklis look-a-like comes over and asks me to raise my arms. "You guys already did that," I responded tersely. "Oh! [mumbles something unintelligible,]" walks away. I eventually boarded the plane without a care in the world. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bombs on the CTA !!! |
Just send any of these suspected terrorists on the Metra West Line. They will see two dudes blowing each other on a rooftop, and they will want to kill themselves. |
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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bombs on the CTA !!! |
I don't think Don Cherry really said that. EDIT: never mind, yes he did :/ |
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| Author: | Chus [ Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:15 am ] |
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a retard wrote: :?: 
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| Author: | Chus [ Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:20 am ] |
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bigfan wrote: The hijackers on 9/11 were wearing suits. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:36 am ] |
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Because I posted something Don cherry said, or didnt, doesnt mean I agree with him...lol....as some I guess believe. I also dont see Don cherry as an accurate voice of anything except Hockey and I cant even be sure about that. |
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| Author: | Chus [ Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:47 am ] |
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bigfan wrote: Because I posted something Don cherry said, or didnt, doesnt mean I agree with him...lol....as some I guess believe. I also dont see Don cherry as an accurate voice of anything except Hockey and I cant even be sure about that. You said that you are okay with profiling, and you posted a quote of another guy who believes in profiling. I would have to think that you do agree with him. |
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| Author: | SomeGuy [ Sat Oct 25, 2014 11:18 am ] |
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Douchebag wrote: Just send any of these suspected terrorists on the Metra West Line. They will see two dudes blowing each other on a rooftop, and they will want to kill themselves. I bet you got used to the Metra trains real quick. |
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| Author: | Chus [ Sat Oct 25, 2014 11:38 am ] |
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Chus wrote: I also dont see Don cherry as an accurate voice of anything except Hockey and I cant even be sure about that. Certainly not fashion. |
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| Author: | Hockey Gay [ Sat Oct 25, 2014 4:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bombs on the CTA !!! |
Don Cherry is right, as usual. |
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| Author: | IkeSouth [ Sat Oct 25, 2014 4:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bombs on the CTA !!! |
Hockey Gay wrote: Don Cherry is right, as usual. no hes not. polarity wouldnt matter. and you would have to pierce the skin to even have a chance at causing harm, but i would imagine the cuts would hurt worse than the 14v |
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