$230 a month seems like a lot

sort of seems like this thing is working the way it is supposed to. Health care is hugely expensive and somebody needs to pay for it. Individuals have to take at least some ownership of their own health and livestyle choices.

I guess I never realized how much of the tab my company picks up

kids cost a ton of dough too. my son was in the hospital for a couple nights, bill was like $30,000.

but dont worry about your employer. .

so if you are 30 and have two kids and you're on ACA, what insurance are the kids on?

Way ahead of you

$230/month, $1300 deductible, $1300 out of pocket maximum on the year.


i dont know it seemed like a good package when i bought it. everything else with premiums in this range have $5k+ deductibles.

got great dental for $35 a month too. apparently if i go out of network there is no charge, all major work is paid for. not sure what out of network means for me but we will see.

now you can all shut the fuck up

Might not have it after next month...and if you do, you would be one of the lucky ones.....

Regardless of one's stance on the ACA, the depressing thing is that this law was passed without legislators knowing what was in it, and now the SCOTUS has basically said it doesn't matter what was actually in it.

Correct, it sets a really, really, really bad precedent. It doesn't matter what the law actually says it matters what someone feels it says or should say or if a judge is fond of something.

Correct, it sets a really, really, really bad precedent. It doesn't matter what the law actually says it matters what someone feels it says or should say or if a judge is fond of something.


SCOTUS and it's rulings confirmed that the law is a total failure of Congress and a Rube Goldberg Machine that was never intended to actually function. Instead of striking it down and forcing Congress to be competent they (I know not all of them were for/against, Scalia excoriated Roberts) just said "No problem, we'll just say it says what you want it to say or what we think it should say and it's fine, no need to do your jobs." Although past rulings have made me question their sanity I would say this one confirms that "they" (Roberts) are insane.

Instead of at least getting the Pee Wee Herman breakfast machine we get the Doc Brown blow up breakfast and light the dog on fire machine.

This doesn't set a precedent at all. If you haven't been keeping up with the debate a few Google searches may help you understand that there was precedent for this case.

Despite what I thought and still somewhat believe the law hasn't been a failure.

The vitriol against and the flag-waving for are all identity politics that just show we've lost the game