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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2015 11:08 am 
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What say you? Worth the money, or a racket and a rip off? We replaced three appliances two years (microwave, dishwasher, and stove/oven) and did not opt for the extended warranty. Now, two of them are already broken. Just waiting for the stove to go out. Apparently Whirlpool makes shit products.

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Clean as needed with a soft cloth and sudsy water. For baked on food stains, use a scotch brite or similar type of sponge. For self-cleaning ovens, do not apply any chemicals before setting the self-cleaning function. Do not use harsh abrasives on the glass flat top stove surface as it will scratch.
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Regular cleaning as needed, wiping down with a soft cloth and sudsy water, is recommended. Rinse clean with soft damp cloth. To conserve energy, adjust refrigerator and freezer controls to the warmest setting that will still preserve food (varies by unit). Clean out refrigerator of old/spoiled foods to limit odors/germs, particularly if you plan to be away for an extended period. The freezer is frost-free, so you should not experience ice buildup or a need to defrost.
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Wipe all surfaces with a soft cloth and sudsy water. Rinse clean with soft damp cloth. Remove glass rotating plate (if applicable) and hand wash in sink. Never place metal objects in the microwave.
Dishwasher
Use detergents designed for dishwasher-use only. Regular liquid soaps and detergents will cause excess suds, and flooding of the unit. Jet-Dry or similar product may be used to assist with spotless drying. When practical please utilize the energy-saver setting to conserve energy.

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 Post subject: Re: Extended warranties
PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2015 11:14 am 
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What say you? Worth the money, or a racket and a rip off? We replaced three appliances two years (microwave, dishwasher, and stove/oven) and did not opt for the extended warranty. Now, two of them are already broken. Just waiting for the stove to go out. Apparently Whirlpool makes shit products.


If it's something like the "Geek Squad!" protection plan for a TV or something....not worth the money.

For those appliances I'd say it depends on manufacturer (quality) and cost of warranty.


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Some maintenance tips for you...

Stove
Clean as needed with a soft cloth and sudsy water. For baked on food stains, use a scotch brite or similar type of sponge. For self-cleaning ovens, do not apply any chemicals before setting the self-cleaning function. Do not use harsh abrasives on the glass flat top stove surface as it will scratch.
Refrigerator
Regular cleaning as needed, wiping down with a soft cloth and sudsy water, is recommended. Rinse clean with soft damp cloth. To conserve energy, adjust refrigerator and freezer controls to the warmest setting that will still preserve food (varies by unit). Clean out refrigerator of old/spoiled foods to limit odors/germs, particularly if you plan to be away for an extended period. The freezer is frost-free, so you should not experience ice buildup or a need to defrost.
Microwave
Wipe all surfaces with a soft cloth and sudsy water. Rinse clean with soft damp cloth. Remove glass rotating plate (if applicable) and hand wash in sink. Never place metal objects in the microwave.
Dishwasher
Use detergents designed for dishwasher-use only. Regular liquid soaps and detergents will cause excess suds, and flooding of the unit. Jet-Dry or similar product may be used to assist with spotless drying. When practical please utilize the energy-saver setting to conserve energy.


Also, don't use glass cleaner or anything like that on the fridge exterior, just that damp cloth with water...same with LCD/LED TV's and the like.


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 Post subject: Re: Extended warranties
PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2015 11:23 am 
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What say you? Worth the money, or a racket and a rip off?


Not a racket, but in general a money-losing proposition for the consumer. They wouldn't be selling them if they cost the company money over the long run. You may get "lucky" with a covered repair, but odds are that the company will get the better of the deal.

That being said, I always pay the $99 Apple Care for my iPhone.

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 Post subject: Re: Extended warranties
PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2015 11:25 am 
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its like anything else. youre buying convenience. if you dont ever want the chance of hassle on something, then buy the extra warranty. if you dont mind calling the manufacturer and going through a negotiation to get it fixed, then screw the warranty because if you honestly didnt abuse the product youll find the manufacturer will usually help you out.

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I used to avoid them at all costs, but that has changed with appliances and electronics. I've been burned on dishwashers, TVs, and laundry machines. All have needed service work within 2 years and the extended warranty would have or did earn it's price.

It makes sense...as a whole, price tags on appliances have held steady yet quality as way way down. They are built to last 5 yrs max nowadays. On many occasions, it doesn't make it the 5 years and you need the extended warranty.

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 Post subject: Re: Extended warranties
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Living in the hometown of the World's Largest Appliance maker, I hate to say I will never buy another Whirlpool/Amana/KitchenAide appliance again, based on past performance.


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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2015 11:31 am 
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Love buying a $19.99 fan and then being asking if I am interested in the extended warranty for $10

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 Post subject: Re: Extended warranties
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redskingreg wrote:
What say you? Worth the money, or a racket and a rip off? We replaced three appliances two years (microwave, dishwasher, and stove/oven) and did not opt for the extended warranty. Now, two of them are already broken. Just waiting for the stove to go out. Apparently Whirlpool makes shit products.



Some credit cards offer the second year at no charge when you use them.

They are also negotiable price wise, so you can reduce your cost there as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Extended warranties
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I used to avoid them at all costs, but that has changed with appliances and electronics. I've been burned on dishwashers, TVs, andlaundry machines. All have needed service work within 2 years and the extended warranty would have or did earn it's price.

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wdelaney72 wrote:
I used to avoid them at all costs, but that has changed with appliances and electronics. I've been burned on dishwashers, TVs, andlaundry machines. All have needed service work within 2 years and the extended warranty would have or did earn it's price.

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Laundry machines? Things have come a long way since wash tubs, Mr Franklin.



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wdelaney72 wrote:
I used to avoid them at all costs, but that has changed with appliances and electronics. I've been burned on dishwashers, TVs, andlaundry machines. All have needed service work within 2 years and the extended warranty would have or did earn it's price.

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Laundry machines? Things have come a long way since wash tubs, Mr Franklin.


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 Post subject: Re: Extended warranties
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lol....I'll take it.

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im also lucky that im not married in this regard.

my dryer just broke... motor is locked up (it was grandpas dryer and he never cleaned the lint out)

went on craigslist, and 1 day later i replaced the entire dryer with nearly exactly the same model for $50. it was cheaper than the part itself would have cost for the old dryer, and i didnt have to mess with anything. just chuck the old dryer to the curb and place in the new one. works fantastic.

but a wife wouldn't really approve. the replacement dryer isnt any worse than the old one, but it has some scratches inside and out. its very clean, but women generally force you to buy new.

but i do agree that appliances it does make some sense. if you buy a $500 washing machine and they want $50 for a 3 year warranty, thats a no brainer. youll know if you have a lemon model by then, and its a hell of a lot easier to just call the warranty company and have them deal with it.

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Big rip off. You are essentially betting that your appliance will fail prematurely AND will actually be covered if it does.

Instead do the research and buy decent appliances in the first place. And if it does break then google up how to fix it.

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The best part is the bloody deductable on the repairs. You're almost better off just fixing it on your own.

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Big rip off. You are essentially betting that your appliance will fail prematurely AND will actually be covered if it does.

Instead do the research and buy decent appliances in the first place. And if it does break then google up how to fix it.


buying a better appliance in the first place is a good answer. they usually last longer, and almost always easier to fix than the budget stuff.

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The best part is the bloody deductable on the repairs. You're almost better off just fixing it on your own.


most people dont even have the nut driver required to take the thing apart. let alone want to even think about doing it.

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The best part is the bloody deductable on the repairs. You're almost better off just fixing it on your own.


most people dont even have the nut driver required to take the thing apart. let alone want to even think about doing it.

Dude how do people survive? I mean with a multi bit screwdriver, a 1/4" nut driver, a 5/16" nut driver, you can do almost anything.

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There's a reason why sales people are trained to push these. They are not a good bet. You're better off taking spmacks horse racing tips. :wink:

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I was always anti extended warrantee, but that was when everything was analog & electro-mechanical. Now that appliance controls are digital, repairs are more costly & more difficult to diagnose & repair on your own. We bought the extended warrantee on our refridge, washer & dryer.

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Darkside wrote:
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The best part is the bloody deductable on the repairs. You're almost better off just fixing it on your own.


most people dont even have the nut driver required to take the thing apart. let alone want to even think about doing it.

Dude how do people survive? I mean with a multi bit screwdriver, a 1/4" nut driver, a 5/16" nut driver, you can do almost anything.


lol i dont know. people get paid a lot of money for selling crap, i know that. i knew a buddy whos 30 year old wife makes 70k a year just being a sales rep for verizon. worked from home over the phone most of the time. but she couldnt even start the mower

i hate taking longer to do repairs than necessary. your right, a couple of universal tools can do pretty much anything, but i know you have a master set of everything because it just makes the work so much easier. i have so much shit in my garage its actually fun to take something apart and fix it... i have an entire arsenal of utensils and adhesives and components to do whatever i might need.

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I was always anti extended warrantee, but that was when everything was analog & electro-mechanical. Now that appliance controls are digital, repairs are more costly & more difficult to diagnose & repair on your own. We bought the extended warrantee on our refridge, washer & dryer.


meh... the controller boards went digital... the motors and any main parts are the same. i can diagnose to component level on circuit boards, but what gets hard is when you cant tell if the PIC chips are doing what they should.... even worse if they encapsulate part of the board under a heatsink that cant be removed gracefully... then youre just a board swapper at that point.

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I was always anti extended warrantee, but that was when everything was analog & electro-mechanical. Now that appliance controls are digital, repairs are more costly & more difficult to diagnose & repair on your own. We bought the extended warrantee on our refridge, washer & dryer.

Still a sucker bet. I'm surprised that you went for it SH. Seems contrary to your (on line) persona.

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I did have a repairman tell me once that he'd recommend a surge protector for the Fridge.

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I did have a repairman tell me once that he'd recommend a surge protector for the Fridge.

Should really get a whole house surge protector.
Between your tv, fridge, furnace and AC you're talking about 10k worth of shit that should all be protected.
Component protection is foolish IMHO. Most surge protectors don't do what they're supposed to do.

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I did have a repairman tell me once that he'd recommend a surge protector for the Fridge.

Should really get a whole house surge protector.
Between your tv, fridge, furnace and AC you're talking about 10k worth of shit that should all be protected.
Component protection is foolish IMHO. Most surge protectors don't do what they're supposed to do.

A whole house unit works but a good quality component one doesn't? It seems like that would be common knowledge if it were a likely occurrence.

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A whole house unit works but a good quality component one doesn't? It seems like that would be common knowledge if it were a likely occurrence.

Most surge protectors will protect against one surge, maybe 2, certainly not a major surge. It's a matter of how quickly they "shunt" the voltage and at what voltage they will shunt. Whole house units will also protect against "One Leg" events too, which can be equally damaging to 220 volt appliances.
The power strip surge protectors are largely useless.
If there is a surge, a component unit should be replaced. Thing is, you might not know you had an event.

Google "fires caused by surge protectors."

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yeah any 'surge' protector that you buy for under $100 doesnt do shit. especially after 6 months... the mov's degrade just by being plugged in. even the high quality ones don't last more than a couple years

whole house ones are usually a layer of protection, but dont filter the power nearly enough to really warrant the cost to install and replace the every few years. most electronics these days are fairly tolerant to dirty power anyway

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