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Author:  IkeSouth [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:10 am ]
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just negotiated $50k/yr plus bonuses and vacations. they sending me a contract today to sign. if i do so i start next week.

i have this weird feeling the contract wont be exactly what we verbally agreed to though. wish me luck on that, i know im more than qualified for the position but what we agreed really is a little more than most people make doing this. im not most people though, so maybe the guy just liked me. yes its for a gay dick sucking service ill be blowin dudes all day

Author:  Jimmy Thick [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:14 am ]
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IkeSouth wrote:
just negotiated $50k/yr plus bonuses and vacations. they sending me a contract today to sign. if i do so i start next week.

i have this weird feeling the contract wont be exactly what we verbally agreed to though. wish me luck on that, i know im more than qualified for the position but what we agreed really is a little more than most people make doing this. im not most people though, so maybe the guy just liked me. yes its for a gay dick sucking service ill be blowin dudes all day


LOL, you would actually negotiate a job for 50k? What the fuck are you a high school drop out? I mean, if you're really sucking dick all day, the discharge alone should be proper payment for your skills, but if you're doing actual work, making under 50k in this day and age and in the metro Chicagoland area means you just got raped financially.

Fucking skill-less poor people, I laugh at you fucking fight for 15 losers.


Jimmy Thick- More of my tax dollars out of my pocket...

Author:  Hatchetman [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:16 am ]
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I'm curious why they want you to sign a contract? What if you sign it and tell them to fuck off in a month?

Author:  IkeSouth [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:17 am ]
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this is madison, wi where most people make less than 50K/yr

Author:  bigfan [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:18 am ]
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IkeSouth wrote:
this is madison, wi where most people make less than 50K/yr


Drug testing coming????

Author:  Jimmy Thick [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:24 am ]
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IkeSouth wrote:
this is madison, wi where most people make less than 50K/yr


Madison WI?

What the hell do you do for a living, run a toilet in a fast food restaurant? You should be starting at 75k in Madison for any salaried position unless of course youre managing people who smell like hot cooking fat. Stop making excuses because you negotiated a bad deal, 50k anywhere for a salaried job means you're being laughed at by the people who hired you, and on top of it, they got the best of you. Next time you ask for a raise and they tell you no, trust me, they will snicker amongst themselves at your 50k a year stipend.


Jimmy Thick- Had a job at Epic, make 200k my first year 7 years ago, yeah blame it on Madison...

Author:  Jimmy Thick [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:25 am ]
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bigfan wrote:
IkeSouth wrote:
this is madison, wi where most people make less than 50K/yr


Drug testing coming????


Not in Madison, it progressive.


Jimmy Thick- Bars on every street corner.

Author:  Tall Midget [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:31 am ]
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IkeSouth wrote:
this is madison, wi where most people make less than 50K/yr


Median household income in Madison is about $54,000.

Author:  bigfan [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:37 am ]
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Jimmy Thick wrote:
bigfan wrote:
IkeSouth wrote:
this is madison, wi where most people make less than 50K/yr


Drug testing coming????


Not in Madison, it progressive.


Jimmy Thick- Bars on every street corner.


Has nothing to do with progressive. Using equipment that could cause injuries or death, insurance companies are not big into insuring someone who is high from hs wake and bake, then drove the forklift into 3 cars in the parking lot.

Its a HUGE issue in the workplace for those who work labor jobs. How is something legal to do, not allowed to do per your job.

Author:  IkeSouth [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:40 am ]
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i dont think the median income correlates to the number of people who actually make that number... you have a lot of rich living in madison that throws off the scale in that sense.

madison is much cheaper than chicago to live, so $50k you can live very nice.

and yeah i guess no drug test. not that it matters, i would pass no problem. i have you all believing im an addict but the reality is i hardly ever drink. youre all really easy to fool.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:44 am ]
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we know you don't drink.

Author:  IkeSouth [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:46 am ]
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bigfan wrote:
Jimmy Thick wrote:
bigfan wrote:
IkeSouth wrote:
this is madison, wi where most people make less than 50K/yr


Drug testing coming????


Not in Madison, it progressive.


Jimmy Thick- Bars on every street corner.


Has nothing to do with progressive. Using equipment that could cause injuries or death, insurance companies are not big into insuring someone who is high from hs wake and bake, then drove the forklift into 3 cars in the parking lot.

Its a HUGE issue in the workplace for those who work labor jobs. How is something legal to do, not allowed to do per your job.


its all about insurance premiums. if its a high risk job there can be big discounts if you test your employees. this job would be relatively low risk, so the discount is likely negligible and the owner simply doesnt want to pay for the tests. plus its a small enough company that the owner knows everyone and if he thinks youre an addict hell just fire you. it is wisconsin, companies dont need a reason to let people go.

Author:  IkeSouth [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:49 am ]
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Hatchetman wrote:
we know you don't drink.


and i havent smoked or taken anything other than aspirin in a very long time... its cool though, im under the impression you all drink heavily and in terrible health too :lol:

Author:  IkeSouth [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:51 am ]
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btw, in madison the income per captia is $31k. so someone making $50k as a single person is doing well. fuck all of you jealous assholes that make "way more than $50k" but drive chrysler lebarons

Author:  Jimmy Thick [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:58 am ]
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bigfan wrote:
Jimmy Thick wrote:
bigfan wrote:
IkeSouth wrote:
this is madison, wi where most people make less than 50K/yr


Drug testing coming????


Not in Madison, it progressive.


Jimmy Thick- Bars on every street corner.


Has nothing to do with progressive. Using equipment that could cause injuries or death, insurance companies are not big into insuring someone who is high from hs wake and bake, then drove the forklift into 3 cars in the parking lot.

Its a HUGE issue in the workplace for those who work labor jobs. How is something legal to do, not allowed to do per your job.


Back when I was working third shift when I was in college at Home Depot off Verona rd in Madison, they had this huge sign stating they did drug testing but I was never tested. Only time I ever saw a drug test was at that Home Depot where some guy driving a forklift hit a desk, destroying it, and did over 30k in damage to all the computer fiber optics and connections and such.

I worked at Epic for five years and made over a million dollars in salary and never took a single drug test, Epic has very little turnover of salaried employees, the temps are just that.

That being said, Madison in general is more of a temp agency hiring state than full blown direct hires now, which is good for the employers, bad for the workers. The unions up here are completely impotent. But drug testing not really, its sadly cheaper to just bypass drug testing now, which as an employee I would be horrified by because I don't want a moron on drugs working with me.

I'm honestly thankful to be working in the Rockford area.


Jimmy Thick- Take em' out back, bullet in the head...

Author:  IMU [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:59 am ]
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#justscrapingbytrack

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:05 am ]
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IMU wrote:
#justscrapingbytrack

:lol:

Author:  jimmypasta [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:07 am ]
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I wipe my ass with 50 G's.


















Yeah,I wish! Good luck on your new job!

Author:  Tall Midget [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:23 am ]
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IkeSouth wrote:
i dont think the median income correlates to the number of people who actually make that number... you have a lot of rich living in madison that throws off the scale in that sense.


54K is the income midpoint in Madison, meaning 50% of all households earn 54K or more, and 50% of all households earn 54K or less.

31K is the average income in Madison, which may be skewed downward by the area's dependence on low-wage student labor.

Author:  Jimmy Thick [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:31 am ]
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Tall Midget wrote:
IkeSouth wrote:
i dont think the median income correlates to the number of people who actually make that number... you have a lot of rich living in madison that throws off the scale in that sense.


54K is the income midpoint in Madison, meaning 50% of all households earn 54K or more, and 50% of all households earn 54K or less.

31K is the average income in Madison, which may be skewed downward by the area's dependence on low-wage student labor.



50K for a salaried employee is like bottom of the barrel wages, that's a small step above fast food restaurant general manager. Wal-Mart, Home Depot, Woodmans assistant managers start at over 55k, if you take a salaried position for at around 50k or under you got screwed over.


Jimmy Thick- Madison is a high paying job heaven, if you know what you are doing.

Author:  Chus [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:32 am ]
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IkeSouth wrote:
btw, in madison the income per captia is $31k. so someone making $50k as a single person is doing well. fuck all of you jealous assholes that make "way more than $50k" but drive chrysler lebarons

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Author:  Hatchetman [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:35 am ]
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seems like only one guy is being an asshole. I'm still curious why they want you to sign a contract. If there are no liabilities to quitting the fucking job, go ahead. what's the harm?

Author:  Scorehead [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:36 am ]
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Jimmy Thick wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
IkeSouth wrote:
i dont think the median income correlates to the number of people who actually make that number... you have a lot of rich living in madison that throws off the scale in that sense.


54K is the income midpoint in Madison, meaning 50% of all households earn 54K or more, and 50% of all households earn 54K or less.

31K is the average income in Madison, which may be skewed downward by the area's dependence on low-wage student labor.



50K for a salaried employee is like bottom of the barrel wages, that's a small step above fast food restaurant general manager. Wal-Mart, Home Depot, Woodmans assistant managers start at over 55k, if you take a salaried position for at around 50k or under you got screwed over.

Jimmy Thick- Madison is a high paying job heaven, if you know what you are doing.


Not everyone can be in the 1%. Lower paying jobs need to be filed and done too. Maybe Ike is being paid what he is worth?

Author:  Bagels [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:40 am ]
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Jimmy Thick wrote:

Back when I was working third shift when I was in college at Home Depot off Verona rd in Madison, they had this huge sign stating they did drug testing but I was never tested. Only time I ever saw a drug test was at that Home Depot where some guy driving a forklift hit a desk, destroying it, and did over 30k in damage to all the computer fiber optics and connections and such.

I worked at Epic for five years and made over a million dollars in salary and never took a single drug test, Epic has very little turnover of salaried employees, the temps are just that.

That being said, Madison in general is more of a temp agency hiring state than full blown direct hires now, which is good for the employers, bad for the workers. The unions up here are completely impotent. But drug testing not really, its sadly cheaper to just bypass drug testing now, which as an employee I would be horrified by because I don't want a moron on drugs working with me.

I'm honestly thankful to be working in the Rockford area.


Jimmy Thick- Take em' out back, bullet in the head...


Hi Keeping score

Author:  Tall Midget [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:44 am ]
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Hatchetman wrote:
seems like only one guy is being an asshole. I'm still curious why they want you to sign a contract. If there are no liabilities to quitting the fucking job, go ahead. what's the harm?


Agreed, though I think Ike should try to negotiate a base salary that pays at least the median for the area in which he resides (especially given that he has discussed his significant technical skills and extensive work history here in the past). Bonuses can be a funny thing, depending on the employer.

Author:  Seacrest [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:45 am ]
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Hatchetman wrote:
seems like only one guy is being an asshole. I'm still curious why they want you to sign a contract. If there are no liabilities to quitting the fucking job, go ahead. what's the harm?



Could be an offer sheet.

Author:  Kadomony [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:54 am ]
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Tall Midget wrote:
Agreed, though I think Ike should try to negotiate a base salary that pays at least the median for the area in which he resides (especially given that he has discussed his significant technical skills and extensive work history here in the past). Bonuses can be a funny thing, depending on the employer.

Keep in mind that "median household income" is not the same (or in my estimation anywhere near the same) as "median salary." Many households, especially those working in lower-end jobs, have more than one earner, and household income includes other forms of income besides earnings from work. I highly doubt that half the people in Madison who have jobs are earning over $54k from those jobs.

Author:  Tall Midget [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:10 pm ]
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Kadomony wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
Agreed, though I think Ike should try to negotiate a base salary that pays at least the median for the area in which he resides (especially given that he has discussed his significant technical skills and extensive work history here in the past). Bonuses can be a funny thing, depending on the employer.

Keep in mind that "median household income" is not the same (or in my estimation anywhere near the same) as "median salary." Many households, especially those working in lower-end jobs, have more than one earner, and household income includes other forms of income besides earnings from work. I highly doubt that half the people in Madison who have jobs are earning over $54k from those jobs.


Right, but my guess would be that the median income is closer to 54K than it is 31K. Additionally, Ike has mentioned in the past that his line of work requires significant training and skill, so I would negotiate up if I were him.

Author:  denisdman [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:16 pm ]
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Jimmy Thick wrote:

Jimmy Thick- More of my tax dollars out of my pocket...


Jimmy Thick's little statement at the end of each post might become a thing. I'd put up with his trolling just to read a few more of those.

Author:  IkeSouth [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:12 pm ]
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Tall Midget wrote:
Kadomony wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
Agreed, though I think Ike should try to negotiate a base salary that pays at least the median for the area in which he resides (especially given that he has discussed his significant technical skills and extensive work history here in the past). Bonuses can be a funny thing, depending on the employer.

Keep in mind that "median household income" is not the same (or in my estimation anywhere near the same) as "median salary." Many households, especially those working in lower-end jobs, have more than one earner, and household income includes other forms of income besides earnings from work. I highly doubt that half the people in Madison who have jobs are earning over $54k from those jobs.


Right, but my guess would be that the median income is closer to 54K than it is 31K. Additionally, Ike has mentioned in the past that his line of work requires significant training and skill, so I would negotiate up if I were him.


um... the statistics prove the average individual in madison makes 31k/yr. its not debatable. I also happen to live in the area and know what most people make, and $31k is what most 'normal' jobs offer. entry level jobs around here are $24k/yr at best. this isn't chicago, you actually can live on $30k a year, its just really hard to without a 2nd income/roomate.

and I haven't seen the contract yet. if they offer me anything lower that what we agreed to verbally I won't sign it. i am fully aware the 'bonuses' and 'overtime' mean nothing. if those come some day, great, but im not taking the job on promises or hopefuls.

Kadomony wrote:
Keep in mind that "median household income" is not the same (or in my estimation anywhere near the same) as "median salary." Many households, especially those working in lower-end jobs, have more than one earner, and household income includes other forms of income besides earnings from work. I highly doubt that half the people in Madison who have jobs are earning over $54k from those jobs.


exactly. they don't. not even close.

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