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Author:  IkeSouth [ Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Search for Intelligent life gets another boost

but hawking himself wonders if its actually intelligent to do so...

since in all other levels of nature the fittest are the ones who dominate everything below them, are we really being smart by sending out signals to notify potential predators?

this of course is based on the assumption that aliens exist, but if you look at things from a pure mathematical perspective there couldnt be a safer bet. by the numbers alone, aliens must exist... and knowing we are really only a couple hundred years into our own "intelligent" age, what would the chances be that we find a species that ISNT more advanced than we are? are we really just zebras in the open pasture holding up bloody fish asking the lions to come after us?

good thing is i doubt we will have to worry about it in our lifetime. we have already been sending out 'smoke signals' through radio and televison waves... but that has only been going on at the speed of light for ~100 years. our own galaxy is 100,000 light years across... so the footprint we now have manmade radio waves covering is only 200 lightyears across... and the closest next galaxy is like 25,000 light years away... and the closest 'major' galaxy is 2.5 million light years away. phew, because that means even if the universe is TEAMING with life, they might not even know we are here for a very long time.

best part is, with the couple galaxy neighbors i just mentioned, there are BILLIONS more of them out there. the only way we could possibly communicate with intelligent life is if we figure out a form of communication that defies the laws of the physics that we know.... which is something else that has held true for almost 100 years and so far nobody has many ideas to crack it.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technolog ... ar-AAdfhj1

Author:  Spaulding [ Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:41 pm ]
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He should look no further than this board.

Author:  Darkside [ Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:05 pm ]
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One should figure that if another intelligent species managed to become advanced enough to receive our signals and travel here then they survived their own technological advances and therefore would probably be peaceful.

Course that's nothing more than a guess. But would stand to reason that a civilization that old and that advanced survived itself and therefore would be less than aggressive.

Author:  Nas [ Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:16 pm ]
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Darkside wrote:
One should figure that if another intelligent species managed to become advanced enough to receive our signals and travel here then they survived their own technological advances and therefore would probably be peaceful.

Course that's nothing more than a guess. But would stand to reason that a civilization that old and that advanced survived itself and therefore would be less than aggressive.


The dominant species is almost always hostile and aggressive. If we found alien life we would definitely try to bring it back to our planet and dissect it so we could learn more about it.

Author:  Darkside [ Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:23 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
The dominant species is almost always hostile and aggressive.

Only low intelligent life. Naturally we don't know for sure how another species that we might be able to communicate intelligently would do. One may imagine that a species intelligent enough to travel across light years may have enough empathy for others so as not to harm them.

Quote:
If we found alien life we would definitely try to bring it back to our planet and dissect it so we could learn more about it.

I'm not so sure. We don't really do that now... I mean, we tag sharks and try to follow them without harming them. Our species now has evolved enough not to kill and dissect other forms of life we encounter, rather, we try to study them in their natural habitat. Of course we may dissect dead specimens we find. Even ourselves. But if we discovered sentient life elsewhere in the universe I doubt we'd go running in like Sherman thru Atlanta.

Author:  bigfan [ Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:38 pm ]
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Darkside wrote:
One should figure that if another intelligent species managed to become advanced enough to receive our signals and travel here then they survived their own technological advances and therefore would probably be peaceful.

Course that's nothing more than a guess. But would stand to reason that a civilization that old and that advanced survived itself and therefore would be less than aggressive.


Maybe they showed up at the Cell...saw nobody there and went back? :D

Author:  Darkside [ Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:45 pm ]
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You are a sick man.

Author:  bigfan [ Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:51 pm ]
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Darkside wrote:
You are a sick man.

Oh, I forgot, I shouldnt joke about the attendance because, we all know its an issue....thus, we get to joke about it.

Sincerely

THE CISCO KID

Author:  IkeSouth [ Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:52 pm ]
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we rely on sharks and other species to survive though. without the ecosystem we are fucked

look at what we do to mosquitoes. were dominant to them, and we dont need them, so we kill them. we actually spend a lot of time trying to find a way to eradicate them.

Author:  Darkside [ Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:56 pm ]
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bigfan wrote:
Darkside wrote:
You are a sick man.

Oh, I forgot, I shouldnt joke about the attendance because, we all know its an issue....thus, we get to joke about it.

Sincerely

THE CISCO KID

Don't be mad. I'm just fucking around.

Author:  Darkside [ Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:57 pm ]
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IkeSouth wrote:
we rely on sharks and other species to survive though. without the ecosystem we are fucked

look at what we do to mosquitoes. were dominant to them, and we dont need them, so we kill them. we actually spend a lot of time trying to find a way to eradicate them.

Don't you think mosquitoes are a little bit different though? I mean they spread disease. It's not like they're completely harmless to us.

Author:  312player [ Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:00 pm ]
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I thought Hawking was a " genius " ?



Its common sense- knowledge ...Aliens have been here for a very long time .

Author:  Darkside [ Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:05 pm ]
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312player wrote:
I thought Hawking was a " genius " ?



Its common sense- knowledge ...Aliens have been here for a very long time .

As long as they're not Muslim I guess that's fine.

Author:  good dolphin [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:18 am ]
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Darkside wrote:
Nas wrote:
The dominant species is almost always hostile and aggressive.

Only low intelligent life. Naturally we don't know for sure how another species that we might be able to communicate intelligently would do. One may imagine that a species intelligent enough to travel across light years may have enough empathy for others so as not to harm them.

Quote:
If we found alien life we would definitely try to bring it back to our planet and dissect it so we could learn more about it.

I'm not so sure. We don't really do that now... I mean, we tag sharks and try to follow them without harming them. Our species now has evolved enough not to kill and dissect other forms of life we encounter, rather, we try to study them in their natural habitat. Of course we may dissect dead specimens we find. Even ourselves. But if we discovered sentient life elsewhere in the universe I doubt we'd go running in like Sherman thru Atlanta.


Hawking's opinion is that the great motivator to move, en masse, from a home planet would be its destruction. If this were true, the aliens we find would be looking to colonize out of necessity and not be a benevolent explorer.

His opinion on this is no more correct than yours.

Author:  Darkside [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:32 pm ]
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Yeah I get it that actually makes perfect sense too.

Author:  W_Z [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:05 pm ]
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Darkside wrote:
IkeSouth wrote:
we rely on sharks and other species to survive though. without the ecosystem we are fucked

look at what we do to mosquitoes. were dominant to them, and we dont need them, so we kill them. we actually spend a lot of time trying to find a way to eradicate them.

Don't you think mosquitoes are a little bit different though? I mean they spread disease. It's not like they're completely harmless to us.


they're the most dangerous living thing to mankind.

but who says aliens are looking for mankind...

Author:  IkeSouth [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:45 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Nas wrote:
The dominant species is almost always hostile and aggressive.

Only low intelligent life. Naturally we don't know for sure how another species that we might be able to communicate intelligently would do. One may imagine that a species intelligent enough to travel across light years may have enough empathy for others so as not to harm them.

Quote:
If we found alien life we would definitely try to bring it back to our planet and dissect it so we could learn more about it.

I'm not so sure. We don't really do that now... I mean, we tag sharks and try to follow them without harming them. Our species now has evolved enough not to kill and dissect other forms of life we encounter, rather, we try to study them in their natural habitat. Of course we may dissect dead specimens we find. Even ourselves. But if we discovered sentient life elsewhere in the universe I doubt we'd go running in like Sherman thru Atlanta.


Hawking's opinion is that the great motivator to move, en masse, from a home planet would be its destruction. If this were true, the aliens we find would be looking to colonize out of necessity and not be a benevolent explorer.

His opinion on this is no more correct than yours.


what if einstein was right though? NOTHING can travel faster than light. and since we cant even travel a tiny fraction of that speed, theres a good chance that even if aliens do "find" us it will be thousands of years from now and they will only be able to see us through telescopes... an image of what we were before we all killed ourselves thousands of years from now....

the only chance that we know of to communicate with aliens would be wormholes, and while we believe they are physically possible, its still impossible for us to even try to make one.

Author:  312player [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:00 pm ]
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Aliens are here now ...so obviously they have found a way . They need to start taking better care of this planet before we go n fuck up another one.

Author:  Nas [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:14 pm ]
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312player wrote:
Aliens are here now ...so obviously they have found a way . They need to start taking better care of this planet before we go n fuck up another one.


Point out the aliens

Author:  Darkside [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:57 pm ]
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IkeSouth wrote:

what if einstein was right though? NOTHING can travel faster than light. and since we cant even travel a tiny fraction of that speed, theres a good chance that even if aliens do "find" us it will be thousands of years from now and they will only be able to see us through telescopes... an image of what we were before we all killed ourselves thousands of years from now.....

Ah... but...
You do not need to travel faster than light. You can travel slowly.
We know that gravity compresses the fabric of space time. You don't really travel toward an object. The idea is to compress the space between you and an object and travel a short distance to something light years away.

Author:  Darkside [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:58 pm ]
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312player wrote:
Aliens are here now ...

All right. You've said this a couple times. Please elaborate.

Author:  Chus [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:02 pm ]
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Darkside wrote:
312player wrote:
Aliens are here now ...

All right. You've said this a couple times. Please elaborate.


Image

Author:  Darkside [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:06 pm ]
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

I also like this one...



Image

Author:  IkeSouth [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:07 pm ]
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Darkside wrote:
IkeSouth wrote:

what if einstein was right though? NOTHING can travel faster than light. and since we cant even travel a tiny fraction of that speed, theres a good chance that even if aliens do "find" us it will be thousands of years from now and they will only be able to see us through telescopes... an image of what we were before we all killed ourselves thousands of years from now.....

Ah... but...
You do not need to travel faster than light. You can travel slowly.
We know that gravity compresses the fabric of space time. You don't really travel toward an object. The idea is to compress the space between you and an object and travel a short distance to something light years away.


thats what i said. wormhole. nasa even says we might be able to do it someday, but for now its impossible to get that much energy concentrated into a spot in space to warp spacetime.

Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:08 pm ]
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Darkside wrote:
IkeSouth wrote:
we rely on sharks and other species to survive though. without the ecosystem we are fucked

look at what we do to mosquitoes. were dominant to them, and we dont need them, so we kill them. we actually spend a lot of time trying to find a way to eradicate them.

Don't you think mosquitoes are a little bit different though? I mean they spread disease. It's not like they're completely harmless to us.

You're thinking of Cutler's kids.

Author:  Darkside [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:08 pm ]
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Darkside wrote:
IkeSouth wrote:
we rely on sharks and other species to survive though. without the ecosystem we are fucked

look at what we do to mosquitoes. were dominant to them, and we dont need them, so we kill them. we actually spend a lot of time trying to find a way to eradicate them.

Don't you think mosquitoes are a little bit different though? I mean they spread disease. It's not like they're completely harmless to us.

You're thinking of Cutlers kids.

By golly. You're right. :oops:

Author:  312player [ Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:10 pm ]
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Nas wrote:
312player wrote:
Aliens are here now ...so obviously they have found a way . They need to start taking better care of this planet before we go n fuck up another one.


Point out the aliens




Cmon man , don't play dumb ..you are an intelligent man . I've never seen one or their aircrafts ...But millions of credible people have ... I know 4 people who have seen alien aircraft and one person who's had an encounter ..One of the four saw the craft at O'Hare ..it fucked flights up for an hour ..she's a stewardess ... The girl who had an encounter grew up in Pennsylvania ..her cousin had an encounter too ..she's very successful n doesn't do drugs ... She's not crazy ... Its like ghosts ..they exist , I've never seen one n don't want to ...but lotsa people I know that are very credible have had interactions .

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:11 pm ]
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312player wrote:
Nas wrote:
312player wrote:
Aliens are here now ...so obviously they have found a way . They need to start taking better care of this planet before we go n fuck up another one.


Point out the aliens




Cmon man , don't play dumb ..you are an intelligent man . I've never seen one or their aircrafts ...But millions of credible people have ... I know 4 people who have seen alien aircraft and one person who's had an encounter ..One of the four saw the craft at O'Hare ..it fucked flights up for an hour ..she's a stewardess ... The girl who had an encounter grew up in Pennsylvania ..her cousin had an encounter too ..she's very successful n doesn't do drugs ... She's not crazy ... Its like ghosts ..they exist , I've never seen one n don't want to ...but lotsa people I know that are very credible have had interactions .

:lol:

Author:  Nas [ Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:21 pm ]
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312player wrote:
Nas wrote:
312player wrote:
Aliens are here now ...so obviously they have found a way . They need to start taking better care of this planet before we go n fuck up another one.


Point out the aliens




Cmon man , don't play dumb ..you are an intelligent man . I've never seen one or their aircrafts ...But millions of credible people have ... I know 4 people who have seen alien aircraft and one person who's had an encounter ..One of the four saw the craft at O'Hare ..it fucked flights up for an hour ..she's a stewardess ... The girl who had an encounter grew up in Pennsylvania ..her cousin had an encounter too ..she's very successful n doesn't do drugs ... She's not crazy ... Its like ghosts ..they exist , I've never seen one n don't want to ...but lotsa people I know that are very credible have had interactions .


I believe aliens have been here. We may be aliens. Nix282 fucked those apes a long time ago.

Author:  IkeSouth [ Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:12 pm ]
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we are apes with a symbiotic relationship to a mushroom, and that has given us self reflection, language, and all the spectrum of events that flow from these things.

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