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| Author: | Dignified Rube [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | 9/11 Conspiracy Revisited |
Just happened to see this article from the Daily News today about an American B-25 Bomber crashing into the Empire State Building in 1945. The crash killed 14 people and injured many others but the damage was mainly limited to the 78th and 79th floors. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/b-2 ... -1.2300615 The article says "The crash was accompanied by a fire that virtually destroyed everything on the 79th floor and the 78th floor, the latter fortunately vacant. The fire raged nearly and hour, being brought into check at 10:40, according to Fire Commissioner Patrick Walsh. But there came a series of “flash” fires as high octane gas from the B-25’s tanks poured down elevator operator was blown out of her car by the blast, and seared in a flash of white-hot flame. But there was no appreciable damage below the 78th floor, the blaze being confined to empty corridors - all fire proof." I never heard of this before. Why weren't people talking about this after 9/11? Why is it that a military bomber struck a building in New York City in 1945 similarly as the two commercial aircraft did on 9/11 but the building wasn't destroyed, yet the twin towers collapsed from their foundations after being struck in their upper floors? The article doesn't say whether the bomber was carrying any payload, but that would only have made the explosion more severe than those of commercial jets on 9/11, and yet there was less damage that was ultimately contained. The old World Trader Center buildings were completed in 1973 and had 110 stories each. Instead of the traditional stacked glass-and-steel box construction of many New York skyscrapers, the architect, Yamasaki, worked with structural engineers to come up with a revolutionary design: two hollow tubes, supported by closely spaced steel columns encased in aluminum. Floor trusses connected this exterior steel lattice to the central steel core of the building. In this way, the “skin” of the building would be strong enough that internal columns wouldn’t be necessary to hold it together. This Daily News article is very interesting to say the least, giving some credence to the conspiracy theories that 9/11 was an inside job where explosives had been put in the basements of both towers. I don't know how one could come to any other conclusion in comparing similar incidents, other than the construction of the WTC buildings were inferior to that of the Empire State Building. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9/11 Conspiracy Revisited |
Ok, so Dignified Rube is Panther Pisla. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:40 am ] |
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Panther has his retirement replacement ready to go. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:43 am ] |
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Hey, look who just happened to be lurking! |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:44 am ] |
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| Author: | Cicero Dave [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:46 am ] |
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Bob Collins and Cory Lidle were doing it wrong. They didn't bring down a building either. |
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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9/11 Conspiracy Revisited |
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiratard |
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| Author: | Dignified Rube [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9/11 Conspiracy Revisited |
Except Curious Hair's, these are the responses I should have expected on this board, where the biggest decision of the day for you is whether you should have ketchup with your fries. |
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| Author: | SomeGuy [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9/11 Conspiracy Revisited |
Besides the small details such as size/composition of the aircraft, amount/type of fuel, air speed, the number of aircraft hitting the building, the actual building being completely different and not at all really comparable I'd say the article is on to something. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:48 am ] |
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Dignified Rube wrote: Except Curious Hair's, these are the responses I should have expected on this board, where the biggest decision of the day for you is whether you should have ketchup with your fries. 
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| Author: | bigfan [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:49 am ] |
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Dignified Rube wrote: Except Curious Hair's, these are the responses I should have expected on this board, where the biggest decision of the day for you is whether you should have ketchup with your fries. I will agree the 9/11 conspiracy stuff is kinda cool and makes a good movie...but COME ON. |
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| Author: | Hussra [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:54 am ] |
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Pete Carroll posted a thread on ATS saying Bill Belichick did 9/11. 
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| Author: | Nas [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:57 am ] |
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I love a good conspiracy. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:57 am ] |
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Why didn't the massive amounts of explosives planted by the government in 1945 not blow up the Empire State Building? That is the big question here. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:00 am ] |
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: Why didn't the massive amounts of explosives planted by the government in 1945 not blow up the Empire State Building? That is the big question here. They were incompetent. |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:01 am ] |
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Why wouldn't anybody not eat ketchup with their fries? |
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| Author: | Nas [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:08 am ] |
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We know that we've lied about attacks or allowed attacks to enter into wars before. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:09 am ] |
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Hawg Ass wrote: Why wouldn't anybody not eat ketchup with their fries? Too much sodium. |
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| Author: | Chus [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:11 am ] |
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SomeGuy wrote: Besides the small details such as size/composition of the aircraft, amount/type of fuel, air speed, the number of aircraft hitting the building, the actual building being completely different and not at all really comparable I'd say the article is on to something. Classic SomeGuy. |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:14 am ] |
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Nas wrote: Hawg Ass wrote: Why wouldn't anybody not eat ketchup with their fries? Too much sodium. Communist |
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| Author: | Chus [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:15 am ] |
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Hawg Ass wrote: Why wouldn't anybody not eat ketchup with their fries? I put Tabasco or Sriracha in the ketchup. #Glorious |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:17 am ] |
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Chus wrote: Hawg Ass wrote: Why wouldn't anybody not eat ketchup with their fries? I put Tabasco or Sriracha in the ketchup. #Glorious But still the ketchup product is there, you are a Great American. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:20 am ] |
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Chus wrote: Hawg Ass wrote: Why wouldn't anybody not eat ketchup with their fries? I put Tabasco or Sriracha in the ketchup. #Glorious Tabasco sauce sucks. Sriracha is the best though. |
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| Author: | Chus [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:22 am ] |
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: I'll say what everyone else is afraid to. Tabasco sauce sucks. I don't even know you anymore. |
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| Author: | SomeGuy [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9/11 Conspiracy Revisited |
Chus wrote: SomeGuy wrote: Besides the small details such as size/composition of the aircraft, amount/type of fuel, air speed, the number of aircraft hitting the building, the actual building being completely different and not at all really comparable I'd say the article is on to something. Classic SomeGuy. It's not even that! This little theory has been shot to pieces and buried in a scrap yard for years. Dignified Rube.....just who are you? |
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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9/11 Conspiracy Revisited |
I like green Tabasco. The red one can't compete with Frank's or sriracha. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:23 am ] |
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SomeGuy wrote: Dignified Rube.....just who are you? Panther |
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| Author: | Nas [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:27 am ] |
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Spmack wrote: SomeGuy wrote: Dignified Rube.....just who are you? NAS |
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| Author: | Chus [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9/11 Conspiracy Revisited |
Curious Hair wrote: I like green Tabasco. The red one can't compete with Frank's or sriracha. Right now, I have the following hot sauces in the pantry or refrigerator: Tabasco Tabasco green Sriracha Frank's Red Hot Cholula Dave's Insanity Sauce In this case, variety is literally the spice of life. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 9/11 Conspiracy Revisited |
Chus wrote: Curious Hair wrote: I like green Tabasco. The red one can't compete with Frank's or sriracha. Right now, I have the following hot sauces in the pantry or refrigerator: Tabasco Tabasco green Sriracha Frank's Red Hot Cholula Dave's Insanity Sauce In this case, variety is literally the spice of life. |
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