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Author:  312player [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:13 pm ]
Post subject:  IRAN

So I hear this stupid bitch Carly Fiorina on CNN -

If she's elected, her first call is to Israel to say I've got your back ...her Second call is to Iran ..she's going to make it impossible for them globally to conduct transactions .. :lol:


I don't give a fuck about Israel or Iran ..But who are we to tell Iran anything ?

North Korea
India
Pakistan
Turkey
China
Russia


And a dozen other countries have nukes..who are we to dictate anything to anyone ? We are the only country in history to use a nuke on another country ..if anything ..we are the ones who should be watched.

Author:  pittmike [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

312player wrote:
So I hear this stupid bitch Carly Fiorina on CNN -

If she's elected, her first call is to Israel to say I've got your back ...her Second call is to Iran ..she's going to make it impossible for them globally to conduct transactions .. :lol:


I don't give a fuck about Israel or Iran ..But who are we to tell Iran anything ?

North Korea
India
Pakistan
Turkey
China
Russia


And a dozen other countries have nukes..who are we to dictate anything to anyone ? We are the only country in history to use a nuke on another country ..if anything ..we are the ones who should be watched.



Solid analysis. :roll:

Author:  312player [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

Solid rebuttal :roll:

Author:  bigfan [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

312player wrote:
So I hear this stupid bitch Carly Fiorina on CNN -

If she's elected, her first call is to Israel to say I've got your back ...her Second call is to Iran ..she's going to make it impossible for them globally to conduct transactions .. :lol:


I don't give a fuck about Israel or Iran ..But who are we to tell Iran anything ?

North Korea
India
Pakistan
Turkey
China
Russia


And a dozen other countries have nukes..who are we to dictate anything to anyone ? We are the only country in history to use a nuke on another country ..if anything ..we are the ones who should be watched.


You should care because Obama is basically trying to give them the ability develop nuclear missles. In case you missed it, the hve this religious thing that always seems to override common sense at some point and time. Granted he is giving them this ability in 10-15 years, but I think we might want to think of the future?

Oh...and if one of your relatives was being held by a countries government and Obama, Inc went in to cut this deal and didnt address your father being held in Iranian jails....what do you think now?

Author:  312player [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

Nobody in my family or extended family would ever be dumb enough to be in the Middle East .

Pakistan is as nuts as Iran .. They have nukes.

Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

312 is the worst of what has become a plethora of bad posters.

Author:  312player [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

Go back to your gayboy rasslin message board .

Author:  long time guy [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

This is a difficult call. Anything short of war and Iran will acquire nuclear weapons. Tough talk and threats are not going to prevent them from acquiring nuclear weapons.

The focus should have always been on Iran as they are the leading sponsor of world wide terrorism. There hands are in a number of pots. Its going to be difficult to stop them without going to war and I don't think the U.S. Govt or its people will support another war.

Author:  312player [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

That's the thing, going to start a war over this? Treat em like Pakistan n pay em to let us babysit their nukes .

The biggest terroristic country is Saudi Arabia . not Iran


The biggest threat is Russia

Author:  long time guy [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

312player wrote:
That's the thing, going to start a war over this? Treat em like Pakistan n pay em to let us babysit their nukes .

The biggest terroristic country is Saudi Arabia . not Iran


The biggest threat is Russia


Don't know about that one. You can trace origins of a number of organizations directly to Iran. It's reach is larger than Saudi Arabia's. Syria Iraq Lebanon Pakistan you can find traces of Iranian influence.

Author:  312player [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

Saudis fund all of those lunatics ...they are no ally , they are fake allies ... Anyone that we shun or try to put sanctions on will just deal with Chiba or Russia...we are better off having a relationship with em n watching what the hell is going on.

Author:  Chus [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

It's a good thing that President Bush completely eliminated Iran's number one foe in the region. #Freedom #Murica

Author:  Douchebag [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

In 5-10 years, Iran will be one of our biggest allies in the region.

Author:  312player [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

I agree

Author:  long time guy [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

312player wrote:
That's the thing, going to start a war over this? Treat em like Pakistan n pay em to let us babysit their nukes .

The biggest terroristic country is Saudi Arabia . not Iran


The biggest threat is Russia



In terms of combating Islamic fundamentalism the focus should have been on Iran. Hussein was a secularist and an Arab nationalist. He was never an Islamic fundamentalist or really involved in terrorism unless you count terrorizing his own people I guess.

Iran has been declaring death to America since 79 has taken hostages and sponsored terrorists attacks against the United States. They should have been the primary focus in any war against terrorism.

Author:  Douchebag [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

312player wrote:
I agree

:oops:

Author:  pittmike [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

long time guy wrote:
In terms of combating Islamic fundamentalism the focus should have been on Iran. Hussein was a secularist and an Arab nationalist. He was never an Islamic fundamentalist or really involved in terrorism unless you count terrorizing his own people I guess.

Iran has been declaring death to America since 79 has taken hostages and sponsored terrorists attacks against the United States. They should have been the primary focus in any war against terrorism.



This is pretty close.

Author:  long time guy [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

Douchebag wrote:
In 5-10 years, Iran will be one of our biggest allies in the region.


The Iranian Threat Really Involves Israel. It will come down to the willingness of the U.S. to provide aid to Israel if there is conflict with Iran. U.S. support of Israel is the key cog in the wheel.

Author:  312player [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

long time guy wrote:
312player wrote:
That's the thing, going to start a war over this? Treat em like Pakistan n pay em to let us babysit their nukes .

The biggest terroristic country is Saudi Arabia . not Iran


The biggest threat is Russia



In terms of combating Islamic fundamentalism the focus should have been on Iran. Hussein was a secularist and an Arab nationalist. He was never an Islamic fundamentalist or really involved in terrorism unless you count terrorizing his own people I guess.

Iran has been declaring death to America since 79 has taken hostages and sponsored terrorists attacks against the United States. They should have been the primary focus in any war against terrorism.




Disagree


The youth in Iran is pretty pro western..the old fundamentalists are dying off by the die. Like Republicans in this country .

Author:  312player [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

long time guy wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
In 5-10 years, Iran will be one of our biggest allies in the region.


The Iranian Threat Really Involves Israel. It will come down to the willingness of the U.S. to provide aid to Israel if there is conflict with Iran. U.S. support of Israel is the key cog in the wheel.




Well tough shit for Israel ..its time to cut that umbilical cord .

Author:  long time guy [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

That's true but the youth don't have control of the govt. As long as the mullahs are running things there will be conflict. The tension with Israel won't be removed once the religious zealots are removed either.

Author:  pittmike [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

Also, there is nothing to guarantee as 312's insane mullahs die off Isis or whatever does not rush in and cut the heads off of those young pro westerners. It is pretty complicated. Furthermore, the 15 year thing, um no. They will just say fuck you and do what they want like N. Korea except they now have their money and commerce back. They gave up nothing in this deal, nothing at all.

Author:  312player [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

? Who's your source Mike ?

The details have yet to be revealed

Author:  Douchebag [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

312player wrote:
? Who's your source Mike ?

The details have yet to be revealed

1. Breitbart
2. Michael Savage
3. Drudge Report

Author:  pittmike [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

Gut feeling is all as well as some of the noise being talked about. Just really sounds familiar to the N. Korea thing. They say we will do this give us our money back and nothing changed. Now you got the idiot's idiot son sitting on a nuke.

Author:  SomeGuy [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

Douchebag wrote:
In 5-10 years, Iran will be one of our biggest allies in the region.


Will solidly be in the Russian-Chinese sphere of influence.

Author:  Douchebag [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

pittmike wrote:
Gut feeling is all as well as some of the noise being talked about. Just really sounds familiar to the N. Korea thing. They say we will do this give us our money back and nothing changed. Now you got the idiot's idiot son sitting on a nuke.

North Korea couldn't even blow up a hot dog stand. They are not a threat.

Author:  long time guy [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

312player wrote:
long time guy wrote:
312player wrote:
That's the thing, going to start a war over this? Treat em like Pakistan n pay em to let us babysit their nukes .

The biggest terroristic country is Saudi Arabia . not Iran


The biggest threat is Russia



In terms of combating Islamic fundamentalism the focus should have been on Iran. Hussein was a secularist and an Arab nationalist. He was never an Islamic fundamentalist or really involved in terrorism unless you count terrorizing his own people I guess.

Iran has been declaring death to America since 79 has taken hostages and sponsored terrorists attacks against the United States. They should have been the primary focus in any war against terrorism.




Disagree


The youth in Iran is pretty pro western..the old fundamentalists are dying off by the die. Like Republicans in this country .



The Shah was also pro western. His pro Western stance was one of the main reasons that the people of Iran rose up in 79. The uprisings are the primary reason that the mullahs came to power. I think some of the pro western stuff is exaggerated. There was a lot of bad blood directed at America in 79 and it wasn't just the religious zealots either. I don't think that stuff has subsided that much to be honest.

Author:  SomeGuy [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

Douchebag wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Gut feeling is all as well as some of the noise being talked about. Just really sounds familiar to the N. Korea thing. They say we will do this give us our money back and nothing changed. Now you got the idiot's idiot son sitting on a nuke.

North Korea couldn't even blow up a hot dog stand. They are not a threat.


That's really not the stance you want to take when the nation you're discussing possess nuclear capable ballistic missiles and has been involved in selling nuclear technology for the past 15+ years.

Author:  SomeGuy [ Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IRAN

312player wrote:


And a dozen other countries have nukes..who are we to dictate anything to anyone ? We are the only country in history to use a nuke on another country ..if anything ..we are the ones who should be watched.


This has got to be one of the dumbest, most empty headed things I've ever heard on here.

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