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| Author: | Darkside [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | JORRs list of things that don't matter |
Run support Coaching Managing 1st base defense I'll add more as they come up. I'm sure they will. |
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| Author: | JORR [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: JORRs list of things that don't matter |
 Dumb Darkside was so dumb...  HOW DUMB WAS HE?????? 1) I never said "run support" doesn't matter. I said it doesn't exist. It's nothing more than the runs allowed by the opposing pitcher(s) within the context of a single baseball game. 2) I never said coaching doesn't matter. 3) They may matter, but the way in which they do is impossible to measure and you can't tell me what makes a good manager besides, "Uh, duh uh, eh, I think Joe Maddon is good." 4) It doesn't. Almost completely negligible. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:08 pm ] |
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Darkside |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:10 pm ] |
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If it doesn't exist then it doesn't matter. Obviously. You've said managing doesn't matter. Said that all they do is fill out lineup cards and anyone can do it. If managing doesn't matter or if anyone can do it I don't see how coaching can matter. |
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| Author: | JORR [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:10 pm ] |
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Terry's Peeps wrote: Darkside Oh, he matters. The same way a nasty rash does. |
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| Author: | JORR [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:11 pm ] |
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Darkside wrote: If it doesn't exist then it doesn't matter. Obviously. Where did you learn that logic? Conant? |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:11 pm ] |
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Terry's Peeps wrote: Darkside He needs me. I'm like beloq to his Indiana Jones. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:11 pm ] |
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Darkside wrote: If it doesn't exist then it doesn't matter. Obviously. You've said managing doesn't matter. Said that all they do is fill out lineup cards and anyone can do it. If managing doesn't matter or if anyone can do it I don't see how coaching can matter. Tell that to Mark Parent ... |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:12 pm ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Darkside wrote: If it doesn't exist then it doesn't matter. Obviously. Where did you learn that logic? Conant? How can something matter if it does not exist? You'll argue anything. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:12 pm ] |
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You both matter to me. |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:13 pm ] |
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Terry's Peeps wrote: You both matter to me. I heart u |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:13 pm ] |
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Terry's Peeps wrote: You both matter to me. Suck up, spmack doesn't like this. |
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| Author: | JORR [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:14 pm ] |
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Darkside wrote: If it doesn't exist then it doesn't matter. Obviously. You've said managing doesn't matter. Said that all they do is fill out lineup cards and anyone can do it. If managing doesn't matter or if anyone can do it I don't see how coaching can matter. What I've said was "TOO MUCH IS MADE OF MANAGERS." There's no point in talking about how much they may or may not matter since no one has any idea how to measure such a thing or what makes a good one or how a good one got bad when you ran him out of town. Hell, just a couple days ago some of your fellow Cub fans were calling Maddon a fool for not starting Schwarber. I guess a manager matters when goofs on the Internet don't agree with his decisions. |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:14 pm ] |
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This is getting deep. Descartes is being invoked. |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:15 pm ] |
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Conant? How did my high school (imu's too I think) get into this conversation. DS did you go to Conant? |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:16 pm ] |
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Dese what? DesCARTES! |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:16 pm ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Darkside wrote: If it doesn't exist then it doesn't matter. Obviously. You've said managing doesn't matter. Said that all they do is fill out lineup cards and anyone can do it. If managing doesn't matter or if anyone can do it I don't see how coaching can matter. What I've said was "TOO MUCH IS MADE OF MANAGERS." There's no point in talking about how much they may or may not matter since no one has any idea how to measure such a thing or what makes a good one or how a good one got bad when you ran him out of town. Hell, just a couple days ago some of your fellow Cub fans were calling Maddon a fool for not starting Schwarber. I guess a manager matters when goofs on the Internet don't agree with his decisions. Don't change your narrative. Stick to it. It's something I love about you. |
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| Author: | JORR [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:16 pm ] |
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denisdman wrote: Conant? How did my high school (imu's too I think) get into this conversation. DS did you go to Conant? Are you familiar with the term "common denominator"? |
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| Author: | Matches Malone [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:17 pm ] |
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JORR, serious question. What are your thoughts on Mattingly? |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:17 pm ] |
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leashyourkids wrote: This is getting deep. Descartes is being invoked. It won't be deep enough until the black beauty is balls deep. |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:17 pm ] |
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denisdman wrote: Conant? How did my high school (imu's too I think) get into this conversation. DS did you go to Conant? Well if JORR says I did.... he can't be wrong. |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:18 pm ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: denisdman wrote: Conant? How did my high school (imu's too I think) get into this conversation. DS did you go to Conant? Are you familiar with the term "common denominator"? Indeed, this place has taught me a lot about the lowest common denominator. |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: JORRs list of things that don't matter |
At least I made the 9:43 metra train. The question is, what to do about tomorrow's game? |
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| Author: | Furious Styles [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:21 pm ] |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:22 pm ] |
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denisdman wrote: At least I made the 9:43 metra train. The question is, what to do about tomorrow's game? Get shitfaced celebrating. |
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| Author: | ChicagoEd [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:23 pm ] |
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Darkside wrote: denisdman wrote: Conant? How did my high school (imu's too I think) get into this conversation. DS did you go to Conant? Well if JORR says I did.... he can't be wrong. He is never wrong. Just ask him. |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:23 pm ] |
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Terry's Peeps wrote: denisdman wrote: At least I made the 9:43 metra train. The question is, what to do about tomorrow's game? Get shitfaced celebrating. I'm already there. I'd be worse but the bleachers turned into assigned seating, and it wasn't worth getting up. |
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| Author: | JORR [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: JORRs list of things that don't matter |
Matches Malone wrote: JORR, serious question. What are your thoughts on Mattingly? He's not a true Yankee. How could you possibly play so many seasons in pinstripes without winning a championship? You mean as a manager? I think he knows baseball as well as Joe Maddon. At times Maddon may have a team that gets fired up by flamingos. At other times he might have a team that is annoyed by them. I think the same thing goes for Mattingly or anyone else and their particular styles and/or shtick. Some people might say they good manger is the guy who adjusts to his personnel. But that guy doesn't really exist. Baseball is an American game and a traditional game and American management style is traditionally top down. It's the players that are expected to conform to the rules laid out by a manager. And a guy who tries another way will eventually, if not immediately, be seen as weak. I've never managed a game in my life, but if I can send Kershaw and Greinke out every five days, my team is gonna win a bunch of ballgames. |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: JORRs list of things that don't matter |
Here's an example of bad managing... and I've said this several time on the board... The bartman game. Dusty literally sat there watching it all fall apart. Did noting while alou had his temper tantrum. Ok. Then... does nothing when Gonzalez boots the ball. This is where he should have come out. Had a meeting on the mound. Chilled everyone out. His team was losing it. Probably should have made a pitching change. But he did nothing. I think that inning was terrible managing. and it cost them the series. There's no statistic for that. I know that. But that's not good management. However he is the league leader in chewing a toothpick while watching his team shit itself. |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:28 pm ] |
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Airing of the grievances next year at Lakemoor Fest. |
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