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 Post subject: Re: Bernie Sanders
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Mort Zuckerman is a big Hillary donor, don't care.

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 Post subject: Re: Bernie Sanders
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Mort Zuckerman is a big Hillary donor, don't care.


His answer to basic questions had nothing to do with anyone but him. Bernie Trump is a charlatan.

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 Post subject: Re: Bernie Sanders
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bernie was exposed a little bit in his interview with the Daily News in NY.

http://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-s ... ews-2016-4

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 Post subject: Re: Bernie Sanders
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Yes, Bernie struggled a bit in the interview.

However, comparing a guy who was on the front lines of the Civil Rights movement and has fought for women and minority rights since he was a teenager to Donald Trump is... well... probably a terrible thing to do.

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Yes, Bernie struggled a bit in the interview.

However, comparing a guy who was on the front lines of the Civil Rights movement and has fought for women and minority rights since he was a teenager to Donald Trump is... well... probably a terrible thing to do.


He's not a dog whistler like Trump but he's your run of the mill New York street hustler. Bernie hasn't been on the front lines of anything except government handouts.

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He's not a dog whistler like Trump but he's your run of the mill New York street hustler.

Well, speaking of dog whistles.

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What this exposed is that Sanders is just another career politician.

Same bullshit, different voice.

And that sound is the sound of a million millennials Twitter accounts weeping.

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He's not a dog whistler like Trump but he's your run of the mill New York street hustler.

Well, speaking of dog whistles.


This guy looks familiar.

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What this exposed is that Sanders is just another career politician.

Same bullshit, different voice.

And that sound is the sound of a million millennials Twitter accounts weeping.


I don't think he expected to be here. He probably thought he would play the role of Ron Paul but now shit has gotten real. If I believed Bernie Sanders was genuine I would have been his biggest supporter. I spotted the con early on.

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 Post subject: Re: Bernie Sanders
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sjboyd0137 wrote:
What this exposed is that Sanders is just another career politician.

Same bullshit, different voice.

And that sound is the sound of a million millennials Twitter accounts weeping.


I don't think he expected to be here. He probably thought he would play the role of Ron Paul but now shit has gotten real. If I believed Bernie Sanders was genuine I would have been his biggest supporter. I spotted the con early on.
If Bernie Sanders had given real explanations to many of his policies he would have been out of the race a long time ago.

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 Post subject: Re: Bernie Sanders
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Nas wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
What this exposed is that Sanders is just another career politician.

Same bullshit, different voice.

And that sound is the sound of a million millennials Twitter accounts weeping.


I don't think he expected to be here. He probably thought he would play the role of Ron Paul but now shit has gotten real. If I believed Bernie Sanders was genuine I would have been his biggest supporter. I spotted the con early on.


Me too...

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 Post subject: Re: Bernie Sanders
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Nas wrote:
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What this exposed is that Sanders is just another career politician.

Same bullshit, different voice.

And that sound is the sound of a million millennials Twitter accounts weeping.


I don't think he expected to be here. He probably thought he would play the role of Ron Paul but now shit has gotten real. If I believed Bernie Sanders was genuine I would have been his biggest supporter. I spotted the con early on.


Me too...


What con?

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 Post subject: Re: Bernie Sanders
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The simple fact that he presented himself as anything except what he is...which is a career politician more than willing to pander to whatever he needs to for votes.

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 Post subject: Re: Bernie Sanders
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I don't think he expected to be here. He probably thought he would play the role of Ron Paul but now shit has gotten real. If I believed Bernie Sanders was genuine I would have been his biggest supporter. I spotted the con early on.


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 Post subject: Re: Bernie Sanders
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His credibility as a Socialist should also be questioned. It's one of the reasons that his former ally turned on him. Sanders sold out the Socialist movement to win elections. He pretty much admitted it at the time.

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 Post subject: Re: Bernie Sanders
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What this exposed is that Sanders is just another career politician.

Same bullshit, different voice.

And that sound is the sound of a million millennials Twitter accounts weeping.


I'm not sure what part of the interview you are referencing, but Sanders' responses about Wall Street were largely correct and logical.

The notion that he is uninformed on this matter stems from the misguided nature of the questions he was asked--or at least the assumptions governing them.

Sanders was right in asserting that Dodd-Frank gives the Treasury a great deal of authority to divide big banks into smaller entities. This power is derived from the position the Secretary of the Treasury occupies as chair of the Financial Stability Oversight Council.

While the Federal Reserve also has partial authority to break up big banks under Dodd-Frank, the follow-up question about the Federal Reserve was not relevant to Sanders' initial statement. Based on the way the question was asked, it's not clear the questioner understands the distinction between the Fed and the Treasury.

Sanders' belief that the president should not decide how a large financial institution is subdivided makes sense--at least based on recent historical precedent. When the federal government deemed AT&T a monopoly in the 1980s, for example, it was reconfigured based on a plan formulated by the company's leadership. The government simply set a size limit that the new companies could not exceed following break up.

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 Post subject: Re: Bernie Sanders
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Whether you agree with Sanders or not isn't the question....fact it, he's a lifetime politician and opportunist. I look at Ron Paul the same way, and Rand seems to be doing his best to follow. I agree with much of what Bernie says. I agree with much of what Rand Paul says.....doesn't mean they will do it. Most of it they CAN'T.

The party had to run someone in the primary against HILL. Bernie just performed better than anyone ever expected. His only shot is if HILL gets in real legal trouble.

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Whether you agree with Sanders or not isn't the question....fact it, he's a lifetime politician and opportunist. I look at Ron Paul the same way, and Rand seems to be doing his best to follow. I agree with much of what Bernie says. I agree with much of what Rand Paul says.....doesn't mean they will do it. Most of it they CAN'T.

The party had to run someone in the primary against HILL. Bernie just performed better than anyone ever expected. His only shot is if HILL gets in real legal trouble.


Bernie has started a movement to take the party back from the corporate elite. That is a huge accomplishment.

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Whether you agree with Sanders or not isn't the question....fact it, he's a lifetime politician and opportunist. I look at Ron Paul the same way, and Rand seems to be doing his best to follow. I agree with much of what Bernie says. I agree with much of what Rand Paul says.....doesn't mean they will do it. Most of it they CAN'T.

The party had to run someone in the primary against HILL. Bernie just performed better than anyone ever expected. His only shot is if HILL gets in real legal trouble.


Bernie has started a movement to take the party back from the corporate elite. That is a huge accomplishment.


WILL. NOT. HAPPEN.

The people started a movement. It just happened to be behind a guy that wasn't a believer himself. The kids will go away after the election just like they did in 2008.

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 Post subject: Re: Bernie Sanders
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 Post subject: Re: Bernie Sanders
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You are over-rating Bernie's influence.
He may be stealing votes, but I would bet 7 out of 10 Democratic voters still think only the Republicans are owned by Corporate America. Ask them right now and they'd say the current POTUS isn't one of those corporate puppets.

The GOP will implode and the Democratic party will flourish. No one is taking it back.

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WILL. NOT. HAPPEN.

There is no surge. He's winning states he was expected to. She's further ahead of him than Obama was of her in 2008. The race is over. Only thing Bernie Sanders is doing is helping Republicans with his unprovoked personal attacks on Hillary. He's been exposed as Bernie Trump.

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Sanders has strongly implied that both Obama and Hillary are corporate sell outs, in addition to party status quo backers. Hillary supporters here and elsewhere either dont comprehend this critique or don't care. In the case of the latter, it isn't their votes Bernie is seeking.

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Sanders has strongly implied that both Obama and Hillary are corporate sell outs, in addition to party status quo backers. Hillary supporters here and elsewhere either dont comprehend this critique or don't care. In the case of the latter, it isn't their votes Bernie is seeking.



Being a Hillary or Obama critic does not make him qualified to be President. The guy basically admitted that he didn't have a plan to break up the banks. I guarantee you that Hillary would if it were a central theme of her campaign.

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I guarantee you that Hillary would if it were a central theme of her campaign.


:lol: Hypothetical Hillary is a working class hero!

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Sanders has strongly implied that both Obama and Hillary are corporate sell outs, in addition to party status quo backers. Hillary supporters here and elsewhere either dont comprehend this critique or don't care. In the case of the latter, it isn't their votes Bernie is seeking.


If he believes that he should say it. You know why he won't? He's a career politician who has never offered any alternatives to the policies of the status quo. His knowledge of these things appears to be limited to rehearsed soundbites. That's truly pathetic after 40 years as a politician and nearly 30 in Washington.

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My bullshit detector goes off whenever Bernie Trump is mentioned.

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