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Alright, alright, alright.....

I think I'd want this but I probably don't. Where can he go? Unless they go back to his time undercover in Texas. That could be pretty badass.

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If you’ve missed the haunted musings of a certain handlebar-mustachioed homicide detective on HBO, you are not alone. On Wednesday, Matthew McConaughey confessed that he too misses his True Detective character and flat-circle prognosticator—so much so that he would consider reprising the role of ol’ Rust.

“I miss Rust Cohle, man,” McConaughey admitted on DirecTV’s Rich Eisen Show. “I miss watching him on Sunday nights.”

The sentiment is not only shared by first-season True Detective viewers, but by HBO, which dealt with disastrous reviews when the second season of the Nic Pizzolatto-created drama, starring Rachel McAdams, Vince Vaughn, and Colin Farrell, failed to live up to the first. In fact the feedback to the sophomore season was so troubling that HBO reportedly only agreed to grant the show a third season if Pizzolatto changed the way he runs the series. Pizzolatto and HBO are presumably looking for a season-three Hail Mary, and McConaughey hinted that he reached out to his former collaborator to discuss the possibility of returning, despite the show’s anthology format.

“It would have to be the right context, the right way,” McConaughey told Eisen. “That thing—when I read [the original script] I knew in 20 minutes if I can play this guy, Rustin Cohle, I’m in.”

And why is McConaughey so desperate to get back into the disturbed character, which earned him an Emmy nomination? Apparently exploring Rust brought him a lot of joy . . . strangely.

“I was a happy man when I made that for six months, because I was on my own island,” the Oscar winner said. “Luckily my wife put up with me.”

This past January, HBO president Michael Lombardo took the blame for pushing Pizzolatto, who wrote every episode of the series, to crank out the second season too quickly. “I set him up to deliver, in a very short time frame, something that became very challenging to deliver,” Lombardo said. That’s not what that show is. He had to reinvent the wheel, so to speak. Find his muse. And so I think that’s what I learned from it. Don’t do that anymore.”

Take a look at McConaughey’s full comments about the potential Rust Cohle revival below, and decide whether it’s too early for a Big Hug Mug cheers.



http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/06/matthew-mcconaughey-true-detective-season-3

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Rather he take his time with each season being independent.


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This or any other potential future season of True Detective would probably only work if Fukunaga came back or someone equally skilled directed the whole season.


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S1 was outstanding, however..looking back, the writing wasn't as good as I thought and Woody and MATT carried it..great camera work, great casting.

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S1 was outstanding, however..looking back, the writing wasn't as good as I thought and Woody and MATT carried it..great camera work, great casting.


S1 was great, IMO, for these reasons in order -

1A - Matt and Woody
1B - Fukunaga
3 - Writing

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ZephMarshack wrote:
This or any other potential future season of True Detective would probably only work if Fukunaga came back or someone equally skilled directed the whole season.

Agreed.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
312player wrote:
S1 was outstanding, however..looking back, the writing wasn't as good as I thought and Woody and MATT carried it..great camera work, great casting.


S1 was great, IMO, for these reasons in order -

1A - Matt and Woody
1B - Fukunaga
3 - Writing

After season 1 finished it was very frustrating/unsatisfying looking back at all the red herrings. Sloppy to say the very least.


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Kirkwood wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
312player wrote:
S1 was outstanding, however..looking back, the writing wasn't as good as I thought and Woody and MATT carried it..great camera work, great casting.


S1 was great, IMO, for these reasons in order -

1A - Matt and Woody
1B - Fukunaga
3 - Writing

After season 1 finished it was very frustrating/unsatisfying looking back at all the red herrings. Sloppy to say the very least.


It was great scene writing, awful story writing. The ending of that series just made me angry. It could have been so great. Now, when I rewatch, which I might this weekend, I just pick the great scenes from the first 4-5 episodes or so and watch those.

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I watched season 1 about a year after it aired, so we binge watched it. Finished it in about a week or so. I think I would have enjoyed it much more if I had to wait a week to see each new episode. Once it was over I sort of shrugged and wondered what all the fuss was about. It was entertaining but it wasnt the "EVENT" that people made it out to be.

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I watched season 1 about a year after it aired, so we binge watched it. Finished it in about a week or so. I think I would have enjoyed it much more if I had to wait a week to see each new episode. Once it was over I sort of shrugged and wondered what all the fuss was about. It was entertaining but it wasnt the "EVENT" that people made it out to be.


I could see that.

Watching it as it aired, you had a week between episodes to try to piece together what all the symbolism meant.

Turns out it didn't mean too much. But, it was fun for a while.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
I watched season 1 about a year after it aired, so we binge watched it. Finished it in about a week or so. I think I would have enjoyed it much more if I had to wait a week to see each new episode. Once it was over I sort of shrugged and wondered what all the fuss was about. It was entertaining but it wasnt the "EVENT" that people made it out to be.

The week allowed maniacs to parse out everything little clue in each scene. It was exciting to see how all these clues would tie together. Unfortunately they never did. They just were just put there to be there. :lol:


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Kirkwood wrote:
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I watched season 1 about a year after it aired, so we binge watched it. Finished it in about a week or so. I think I would have enjoyed it much more if I had to wait a week to see each new episode. Once it was over I sort of shrugged and wondered what all the fuss was about. It was entertaining but it wasnt the "EVENT" that people made it out to be.

The week allowed maniacs to parse out everything little clue in each scene. It was exciting to see how all these clues would tie together. Unfortunately they never did. They just were just put there to be there. :lol:

Yeah I think obviously a lot of that stuff was a flaw with the writing but it's also a problem with how a lot of fans seem to consume television today as well. By its nature the first season was almost bound to go down the same route as shows like The X-Files and Lost where a payoff can never live up to the build-up. I was initially an apologist for the ending the first time I watched the show, but I think it was in part because I was giving Pizzolatto the benefit of the doubt, something I quickly realized was a mistake in season 2 :lol:

But I also remember looking at the True Detective Theories subreddit or whatever it was called and being flabbergasted by the amount of minutia people were poring over. Like it's one thing to have fun trying to solve a mystery show or book, but the extent of some of these analyses was pretty over the top. Obviously shows that raise one's expectations but don't deliver can be disappointing but I think it's also possible for fans to independently raise their own expectations to absurd levels via constant theorizing and discussion.


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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Hank Scorpio wrote:
I watched season 1 about a year after it aired, so we binge watched it. Finished it in about a week or so. I think I would have enjoyed it much more if I had to wait a week to see each new episode. Once it was over I sort of shrugged and wondered what all the fuss was about. It was entertaining but it wasnt the "EVENT" that people made it out to be.


I could see that.

Watching it as it aired, you had a week between episodes to try to piece together what all the symbolism meant.

Turns out it didn't mean too much. But, it was fun for a while.

The acting and directing had me addicted far more than the story. Those two dudes brought it for a whole season. I binged the last 8 eps, and couldn't get enough. Really hope they bring those 2 characters back.

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I hear you, Zeph. But there's a difference between not feeling satisfied with the payoff and there being no payoff at all. I wasn't satisfied with the Lost payoff.

But, TD, no question, wanted you to notice certain symbols and rape implications with the dolls and the stuff on the walls at Marty's house and many other "coincidences" that led to nothing at all. It just felt like a cheat or like he started something and decided to end it with something else.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I hear you, Zeph. But there's a difference between not feeling satisfied with the payoff and there being no payoff at all. I wasn't satisfied with the Lost payoff.

But, TD, no question, wanted you to notice certain symbols and rape implications with the dolls and the stuff on the walls at Marty's house and many other "coincidences" that led to nothing at all. It just felt like a cheat or like he started something and decided to end it with something else.


Yeah this was nothing like the "payoff" to Lost. I still regret sticking it out and finishing that show.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I hear you, Zeph. But there's a difference between not feeling satisfied with the payoff and there being no payoff at all. I wasn't satisfied with the Lost payoff.

But, TD, no question, wanted you to notice certain symbols and rape implications with the dolls and the stuff on the walls at Marty's house and many other "coincidences" that led to nothing at all. It just felt like a cheat or like he started something and decided to end it with something else.

The stuff on the wall in Marty's house was literally a mistake though. The set designer got some drawings from a neighbor's kid and didn't notice there was a spiral in there.


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I hear you, Zeph. But there's a difference between not feeling satisfied with the payoff and there being no payoff at all. I wasn't satisfied with the Lost payoff.

But, TD, no question, wanted you to notice certain symbols and rape implications with the dolls and the stuff on the walls at Marty's house and many other "coincidences" that led to nothing at all. It just felt like a cheat or like he started something and decided to end it with something else.

The stuff on the wall in Marty's house was literally a mistake though. The set designer got some drawings from a neighbor's kid and didn't notice there was a spiral in there.


I'll give them one, then. But what about the can arrangement and Marty's kids acting out the rape imagery (was that supposed to be a hallucination on his part), there were a lot of loose ends and roads that just led nowhere. I didn't care for that.

Plus, there was weird stuff with her Dad. I haven't watched in over a year but I know there was other stuff as well.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
312player wrote:
S1 was outstanding, however..looking back, the writing wasn't as good as I thought and Woody and MATT carried it..great camera work, great casting.


S1 was great, IMO, for these reasons in order -

1A - Matt and Woody
1B - Fukunaga
3 - Writing


Umm, I think you're forgetting a couple of pretty important reasons for the show's greatness--

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
I watched season 1 about a year after it aired, so we binge watched it. Finished it in about a week or so. I think I would have enjoyed it much more if I had to wait a week to see each new episode. Once it was over I sort of shrugged and wondered what all the fuss was about. It was entertaining but it wasnt the "EVENT" that people made it out to be.


I think it's that way with all good series, though - the week-long break allows for anticipation, speculation, "water-cooler" discussions, "appointment" television - that is missing from binge-watching.

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Season 1 sucked, nothing but bait and switch.

I didn't watch Season 2 cause of season 1 and from what I hear I made a good decision.


Wouldn't watch season 3 if you paid me $100, but would if you paid me $500.

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Regarding another season with Rust, just let S1 stand as it is. I don't see any way where a new season with that character would be any better or more intriguing.

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Tall Midget wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
312player wrote:
S1 was outstanding, however..looking back, the writing wasn't as good as I thought and Woody and MATT carried it..great camera work, great casting.


S1 was great, IMO, for these reasons in order -

1A - Matt and Woody
1B - Fukunaga
3 - Writing


Umm, I think you're forgetting a couple of pretty important reasons for the show's greatness--

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Yeah, they'd need to bring her back too.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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I hear you, Zeph. But there's a difference between not feeling satisfied with the payoff and there being no payoff at all. I wasn't satisfied with the Lost payoff.

But, TD, no question, wanted you to notice certain symbols and rape implications with the dolls and the stuff on the walls at Marty's house and many other "coincidences" that led to nothing at all. It just felt like a cheat or like he started something and decided to end it with something else.

The stuff on the wall in Marty's house was literally a mistake though. The set designer got some drawings from a neighbor's kid and didn't notice there was a spiral in there.


I'll give them one, then. But what about the can arrangement and Marty's kids acting out the rape imagery (was that supposed to be a hallucination on his part), there were a lot of loose ends and roads that just led nowhere. I didn't care for that.

Plus, there was weird stuff with her Dad. I haven't watched in over a year but I know there was other stuff as well.


How about re introducing the girl he saved as a woman, without any purpose other than as an object for adultery.

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