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 Post subject: Re: Silence of the Lambs
PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:58 pm 
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Silence of the Lambs is one of my favorite movies. Maybe my favorite.

I loved the relationship between Clarice and Lector. I loved their conversations. He was a killer, but Clarice considered him smart. Which he was. She considered him a mentor. In the end, he helped her solve the case.


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i was rooting for "Boyz in the Hood".


Siskel said that about Boyz in the Hood? I heard him say that in his Terminator review. I guess it was his go to when giving a thumbs down, but he didn't hate it.


no, they loved the movie. i meant i was rooting for it to win Best Picture for 1991.


Got it. I didn't want to go back and start watching more reviews again.

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 Post subject: Re: Silence of the Lambs
PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:01 pm 
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Siskel wasn't really into sci-fi action films. He didn't like "Predator" either.

He did, however, like & recommend "The Thing". and it completely went over Ebert's head.


Siskel loved Back to the Future, while saying that he usually dislikes time travel and sci fi. He was a guy who wanted there to be some sort of positive message/character growth in a movie. I guess if Lector had renounced his serial killing ways at the end he would have given Lambs a better review.


BTTF was more character driven and that's what connected with both Siskel & Ebert. They both loved "Star Wars" and were a vocal minority of respected critics who supported those movies (especially "Jedi"). So there were movies in the genre that Siskel liked but he definitely had a pretty low tolerance for it overall.

I never liked Siskel nor most of his reviews. He had a very narrow tolerance for movies he liked, and brought a vast, hollow word salad for movies he didn't.

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i was hoping that 'an american werewolf in london' would win the 1982 best picture from the academy. they made a star out of the dr. pepper guy.


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 Post subject: Re: Silence of the Lambs
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Regular Reader wrote:
W_Z wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
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Siskel wasn't really into sci-fi action films. He didn't like "Predator" either.

He did, however, like & recommend "The Thing". and it completely went over Ebert's head.


Siskel loved Back to the Future, while saying that he usually dislikes time travel and sci fi. He was a guy who wanted there to be some sort of positive message/character growth in a movie. I guess if Lector had renounced his serial killing ways at the end he would have given Lambs a better review.


BTTF was more character driven and that's what connected with both Siskel & Ebert. They both loved "Star Wars" and were a vocal minority of respected critics who supported those movies (especially "Jedi"). So there were movies in the genre that Siskel liked but he definitely had a pretty low tolerance for it overall.

I never liked Siskel nor most of his reviews. He had a very narrow tolerance for movies he liked, and brought a vast, hollow word salad for movies he didn't.


Agreed. While he seemed to like talking about movies, he didn't have anything interesting to say about them. Dave Kehr, who succeeded Siskel as the Tribune's principal film critic, was far superior in that role.

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Franky T wrote:
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Here is the Siskel and Ebert review: https://youtu.be/fgX0hASKpBU

Siskel has some strange thoughts, saying that the musical build up to Lector was too dramatic. There are a ton of reviews on YouTube. Siskel also disliked Aliens for being too much action, and the same with the Terminator.

Well, that took me down a Siskel and Ebert review rabbit hole.

That reminds me of one of my favorite Ebert blurbs about the movie The Village:

“To call it an anticlimax would be an insult not only to climaxes but to prefixes. It’s a crummy secret, about one step up the ladder of narrative originality from It Was All a Dream. It’s so witless, in fact, that when we do discover the secret, we want to rewind the film so we don’t know the secret anymore. And then keep on rewinding, and rewinding, until we’re back at the beginning, and can get up from our seats and walk backward out of the theater and go down the up escalator and watch the money spring from the cash register into our pockets.”

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 Post subject: Re: Silence of the Lambs
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Well, that took me down a Siskel and Ebert review rabbit hole.


I got a commercial for Marvel and tuned out.

All those movies are the same, there is almost no plot, and the characters are boring. Only pluses are RDJ and some fight scenes, otherwise they are dumb and boring.


I was a HUGE fan of Marvel comics when I was a kid and I had a big collection that I eventually sold to Larry at the comic shop over near Loyola. The thing that made Marvel so much different than D.C. was the way the characters were developed. (This was before the rebooting of Batman as "The Dark Knight." Frank Miller was doing Daredevil for Marvel at the time and I hated his ugly ass pencil work.) The writing was a lot more sophisticated. The characters were real people with real problems. They just happened to have super powers.

Whenever I've attempted to watch a Marvel movie, and admittedly I haven't seen a lot of them, I've been sorely disappointed. It's as if the franchise is geared to be watched in China so the dialogue must be minimal and the action constant. That's the exact opposite of what I have always considered the Marvel ethic.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Whenever I've attempted to watch a Marvel movie, and admittedly I haven't seen a lot of them, I've been sorely disappointed. It's as if the franchise is geared to be watched in China so the dialogue must be minimal and the action constant. That's the exact opposite of what I have always considered the Marvel ethic.
It depends which ones you are watching. The actual Avengers movies are full of what you describe. The character development happens in the other movies dedicated to individuals. They are much more storyline/dialogue based.

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Franky T wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Here is the Siskel and Ebert review: https://youtu.be/fgX0hASKpBU

Siskel has some strange thoughts, saying that the musical build up to Lector was too dramatic. There are a ton of reviews on YouTube. Siskel also disliked Aliens for being too much action, and the same with the Terminator.

Well, that took me down a Siskel and Ebert review rabbit hole.

That reminds me of one of my favorite Ebert blurbs about the movie The Village:

“To call it an anticlimax would be an insult not only to climaxes but to prefixes. It’s a crummy secret, about one step up the ladder of narrative originality from It Was All a Dream. It’s so witless, in fact, that when we do discover the secret, we want to rewind the film so we don’t know the secret anymore. And then keep on rewinding, and rewinding, until we’re back at the beginning, and can get up from our seats and walk backward out of the theater and go down the up escalator and watch the money spring from the cash register into our pockets.”


One of Ebert's best riffs, on "Year of the Horse": And as for the musical segments, they reminded me of nothing more than a group of shaggy mountain men hunkering in a circle and doing imitations of autistic lumberjacks.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Whenever I've attempted to watch a Marvel movie, and admittedly I haven't seen a lot of them, I've been sorely disappointed. It's as if the franchise is geared to be watched in China so the dialogue must be minimal and the action constant. That's the exact opposite of what I have always considered the Marvel ethic.
It depends which ones you are watching. The actual Avengers movies are full of what you describe. The character development happens in the other movies dedicated to individuals. They are much more storyline/dialogue based.



That's why I was interested in Wandavision. If it's a story about the two of them living a suburban life on Long Island and occasionally being interrupted by calls to show up at Tony Stark's Avengers clubhouse in Manhattan to discuss saving mankind and then going out and doing it while struggling to fit in parent-teacher conferences for the twins, that seems cool.

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Brick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Whenever I've attempted to watch a Marvel movie, and admittedly I haven't seen a lot of them, I've been sorely disappointed. It's as if the franchise is geared to be watched in China so the dialogue must be minimal and the action constant. That's the exact opposite of what I have always considered the Marvel ethic.
It depends which ones you are watching. The actual Avengers movies are full of what you describe. The character development happens in the other movies dedicated to individuals. They are much more storyline/dialogue based.


The Captain America movies are very character driven and not just him.

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