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A popular theory is that Don Draper is Dan "DB" Cooper, who famously jumped from an airplane in 1971 with $200K. There have been numerous subtle & not so subtle hints & references to this incident throughout the 6 seasons of Mad Men. Cooper even looks like Draper.


That's gotta be the single dumbest thing I've ever read on the internet.


Airplanes have played a significant part in this series. The DB Cooper similarities are numerous. I'm not saying that I think this is how it ends, but it does make for some interesting reading.



Aside from them representing Mohawk how have airplans played a "significant part of the series"?

What are these numerous DB Cooper similarties?

I've never heard this preposterous theory before, how is it a popular theory?


This sounds even dumber than some of the stuff being written in the True Detective thread.

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A popular theory is that Don Draper is Dan "DB" Cooper, who famously jumped from an airplane in 1971 with $200K. There have been numerous subtle & not so subtle hints & references to this incident throughout the 6 seasons of Mad Men. Cooper even looks like Draper.


That's gotta be the single dumbest thing I've ever read on the internet.


Airplanes have played a significant part in this series. The DB Cooper similarities are numerous. I'm not saying that I think this is how it ends, but it does make for some interesting reading.



Aside from them representing Mohawk how have airplans played a "significant part of the series"?

What are these numerous DB Cooper similarties?

I've never heard this preposterous theory before, how is it a popular theory?


This sounds even dumber than some of the stuff being written in the True Detective thread.


If you had internet access you could do a google search "Mad Men DB Cooper".

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There’s always been something in the air with Mad Men, quite literally. From Mohawk to American, North American Aviation, and Ted’s own little two seater, airlines and aviation are about as prevalent on the show as aliases and fake identities. Even when Joan was upset after being served divorce papers from Dr. Harris, it was a model airplane she grabbed and threw at the unassuming receptionist as Don stood in the doorway. Mad Men has been telling us how the story ends from the very beginning. It ends on an airplane.

After Season One’s storyline of fake identity, Season Two’s started with airplanes: the crash of American Airlines Flight 1 that killed Pete’s father, the agency’s clash over Mohawk and American, the trans-continental flights to the West Coast where, in Los Angeles, the camera panned on Don’s dark sunglasses each time he put them on.

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If you had internet access you could do a google search "Mad Men DB Cooper".

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There’s always been something in the air with Mad Men, quite literally. From Mohawk to American, North American Aviation, and Ted’s own little two seater, airlines and aviation are about as prevalent on the show as aliases and fake identities. Even when Joan was upset after being served divorce papers from Dr. Harris, it was a model airplane she grabbed and threw at the unassuming receptionist as Don stood in the doorway. Mad Men has been telling us how the story ends from the very beginning. It ends on an airplane.

After Season One’s storyline of fake identity, Season Two’s started with airplanes: the crash of American Airlines Flight 1 that killed Pete’s father, the agency’s clash over Mohawk and American, the trans-continental flights to the West Coast where, in Los Angeles, the camera panned on Don’s dark sunglasses each time he put them on.



LOL, so there's been airplanes in the show and Don has dark sunglases. Therefore Don = DB Cooper cause we all know DB Cooper definitely fit the profile of a well off advertising executive who must've robbed a bank for teh sport of it.

You need to put the internet down and call it a day.

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The DB Cooper thing sounds really fanboy, but at least it doesn't send me into tremors of nausea like the idea of flash-forwarding to Don Draper dying in a chair all Godfather III-style, except he drops his iPad.

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This sounds even dumber than some of the stuff being written in the True Detective thread.


I have anal sex theories with regard to Mad Men. But, I'm going to let Beardown give his first.

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The DB Cooper thing sounds really fanboy, but at least it doesn't send me into tremors of nausea like the idea of flash-forwarding to Don Draper dying in a chair all Godfather III-style, except he drops his iPad.


Yea...I don't know how they could jump ahead 4 decades to 2014.

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If you had internet access you could do a google search "Mad Men DB Cooper".

Here is a short excerpt:
There’s always been something in the air with Mad Men, quite literally. From Mohawk to American, North American Aviation, and Ted’s own little two seater, airlines and aviation are about as prevalent on the show as aliases and fake identities. Even when Joan was upset after being served divorce papers from Dr. Harris, it was a model airplane she grabbed and threw at the unassuming receptionist as Don stood in the doorway. Mad Men has been telling us how the story ends from the very beginning. It ends on an airplane.

After Season One’s storyline of fake identity, Season Two’s started with airplanes: the crash of American Airlines Flight 1 that killed Pete’s father, the agency’s clash over Mohawk and American, the trans-continental flights to the West Coast where, in Los Angeles, the camera panned on Don’s dark sunglasses each time he put them on.



LOL, so there's been airplanes in the show and Don has dark sunglases. Therefore Don = DB Cooper cause we all know DB Cooper definitely fit the profile of a well off advertising executive who must've robbed a bank for teh sport of it.

You need to put the internet down and call it a day.


Cooper didn't rob a bank.

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This sounds even dumber than some of the stuff being written in the True Detective thread.


if you like that theory, you'll love "room 237". and the people in that film can't use the "i found it on the internet" excuse because they concocted their crazy "shining" theories all by themselves.

duh. airplanes are prevalent in the show because airlines were a booming industry into those decades. pretty basic.


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Other than the "It's Toasted" thing early on, I think the show has really tried to stay away from stories that are like "and that's how so-and-so happened in real life!", which is for the best. Probably because they got burned on the Lucky Strike slogan predating 1960 by, like, decades and decades. Leave that sort of retroactive storytelling to Sorkin and The Newsroom.

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This has been on my Netflix list for what seems like a lifetime. Can't bring myself to watch it.....probably should though...

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Best to leave it be, you probably wouldn't like it.

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It has one of those three things, and it's not the one you're thinking of.

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I have been looking forward to this Sunday evening for Months & have been watching old episodes. Before the season premier Sunday night I will watch the last episode from last year, which ended with a great scene. It seems like this show is all set up for Don to find redemption & to turn his life around, but like Breaking Bad, many times what you least expect is what happens.

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I really have a hard time reading this show. With Breaking Bad, I was pretty sure what happened to Walt was what was going to happen.

I have no idea where Don goes. I suspect he'll reach some type of peace with the man he truly is and find some contentment in that. I don't imagine that would include Megan. But, I really have no idea. They could have him jumping off a building as well.

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I thought the jumping off a building thing has been the plan all along. But I think it's going to be Pete and not Don that does it. Don will just always be Don.

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Don is changing as evidenced by the last scene of last year. He's starting to accept who he is and where he came from and letting people in on that, even if it costs him, like it did in the Hershey's pitch.

I think the end will be a very different Don than the womanizing cheater he was at the beginning of the series.

Or...he'll be dead....which is also a very different Don.

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I really have a hard time reading this show. With Breaking Bad, I was pretty sure what happened to Walt was what was going to happen.

I have no idea where Don goes. I suspect he'll reach some type of peace with the man he truly is and find some contentment in that. I don't imagine that would include Megan. But, I really have no idea. They could have him jumping off a building as well.


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DDB Chicago ECD Tilley Dead at 40 By Noreen O'Leary, David Gianatasio
February 24, 2008, 12:00 AM ESTAdvertising & Branding
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NEW YORK Paul Tilley, the 40-year-old creative chief of Omnicom Group's DDB in Chicago, died Friday, an apparent suicide. According to the Chicago Sun-Times, an ambulance was called to that city's Fairmont Hotel around 6:25 p.m. Friday following reports that someone had fallen from the building.

On Sunday, the Cook County Medical examiner confirmed the identity of the deceased as Paul Tilley and said the death has been ruled a suicide. A Chicago Police spokesman said Tilley's case remains "under investigation."

Tilley was in the agency's offices early last week meeting with clients and appeared to be conducting business as usual; on Wednesday he was in New Orleans presenting work to State Farm, sources said. His whereabouts on Thursday and Friday were unclear, but he may have been out of the office for business-related reasons, per sources.

"The DDB Chicago family is in mourning over the loss of our dear friend, Paul Tilley," the shop said in a statement. "He was a leader, a mentor, an inspiration. He was talented, charismatic and truly one of the good guys. Our thoughts and prayers are with his wife and two daughters, as well as each other during this shocking and difficult time."

In an internal memo issued Saturday, DDB Chicago CEO Rick Carpenter addressed the tragedy: "It is with great sorrow that I write to you this weekend. But I wanted you to hear this difficult news from me first...The reality of this news is difficult to comprehend. It is such loss for DDB, but also for our industry, our community, and certainly for his family and all who loved him. Paul was a mentor to many, a friend to all. His ability to lead, inspire, and yes, entertain will be so greatly missed."

Tilley, evp, managing director of creative at DDB's largest U.S. office, had worked there for 11 years. He was promoted to the top creative post in late 2006, overseeing clients such as Anheuser-Busch, Capital One, Cars.com, Johnson & Johnson, LensCrafters, McDonald's, Midas, OfficeMax, Safeway, State Farm, The Chicago Tribune and Wrigley. Tilley had earlier worked as a cd at JWT in Chicago on Kraft, Oscar Mayer and McDonnell-Douglas. As a writer and creative exec, he won numerous industry awards, including Addys, Clios and a Gold Effie.

Tilley joined DDB Needham in 1997 as an acd, working on General Mills and Budweiser. He is credited with helping the agency win new business from Qwest, the Illinois Lottery, Dell and Alltel.

He rose through the ranks to group cd and worked on the "Dude, you're getting a Dell" campaign that helped the computer maker climb from fourth in the industry to No. 1 in home PC sales. In 2004, Tilley was named the creative leader on the McDonald's business and co-developed the "I'm lovin' it" campaign. Buoyed by those efforts, McDonald's reached its highest sales in 30 years, according to DDB, and won its first Cannes Lions.

"I've spent 18 years as a writer. I grew to appreciate the craft of copywriting and what made for good writing," Tilley told Adweek in October 2006. "But I fairly quickly rose into creative management because as good a writer as I was, I really enjoyed demonstrating to a client that you were solving a problem, not just coming up with a "creative idea." No client wants to think they're just funding your entertainment schemes. The root word of commercial is commerce, which clients care about a lot...I really see my job as seeing the best idea in the room and figuring out a way to make the client understand what's great about it."

A native Texan, Tilley found his way to Chicago via Northwestern University's Medill School of Journalism. His first job in advertising was writing copy on Bissell carpet shampoo bottles, but within two years, he was working on TV spots.

Details about services for Tilley were not available at midday on Sunday.

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I previously wrote about this shows obsession with airplanes & flying & guess how Sundays nights episode starts?

New "Mad Men" season 7 teaser: "It's all up in the air"
ByJessica DerschowitzCBS NewsMarch 20, 2014, 12:04 PM

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A second teaser for the upcoming seventh season of "Mad Man" has been released -- and in typical "Mad Men" fashion, it offers few clues at what's to come.

Like the first teaser, which came out earlier this month, this one is set at an airport. Cast members are seen stepping out of a taxi, buying a ticket, sitting in a departure lounge, carrying a suitcase and, finally, a shot of Don Draper standing on the steps to a plane.

There's also lots of bright, colors and clothes that hearken towards the coming '70s (the show left off in 1968) and the sounds of "Let Go (Breakdown)" by British soul singer Alice Russell.

A tagline reads, "It's all up in the air."

"Mad Men" returns April 13 at 10 p.m. ET for the first of seven episodes. The second set of seven episodes will run in 2015.

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This seems really boring.

How many episodes have you watched now?

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This seems really boring.

How many episodes have you watched now?



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Strictly going off of things told to me and what I've read around the internet.

I will watch episode 1 this weekend....along with episode 1 of The Wire.

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1 episode of Mad Men probably isn't going to knock your socks off.

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Strictly going off of things told to me and what I've read around the internet.

Well, it's not for everyone. The Wire has a slow burn quality as well.

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I really have a hard time reading this show. With Breaking Bad, I was pretty sure what happened to Walt was what was going to happen.

I have no idea where Don goes. I suspect he'll reach some type of peace with the man he truly is and find some contentment in that. I don't imagine that would include Megan. But, I really have no idea. They could have him jumping off a building as well.


Jumping off a building just seems too obvious given the show intro. Based on the way the show ended last season with Don beginning to come to terms with his life & the things that are more important that his professional career, it feels like he may be coming around. Hopefully so. I want him to survive & to become a better person.

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Great start to season 7 tonight. Like we predicted, Don showed signs of trying to turn his life around & change his Womanizing & drinking ways. He turned down the Women on the airplane & decided not to open a bottle of whiskey. Don is indeed changing.

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Loved the use of Freddy Rumsen. Megan is leaving Don soon.

I'm sure Don will be back at SC&p very soon. This show isn't good at clean breaks in the work world, with almost everyone trickling back over to SCDP, or Peggy dramatically leaving for CGC only for SCDP to merge with CGC and bring her back into the fold. The only characters of significance to leave and never come back were Paul and Sal, and even Paul got a cameo down the road. (The Office was the same way, to its detriment.) I found it interesting how much the new head of creative reminded me of Henry Francis: sacrificing the fire and passion that led to highs and lows for the kind of steadiness that people need. Don's been replaced as Actual Dad and Work Dad by the same kind of amiable whitebread dope. Of course, mere steadiness won't pass muster if you're the creative director at an ad agency, and soon they'll need all the headaches Don Draper brings along, hence Peggy breaking down in tears in large part over the new acceptance of mediocrity at her job.

Even when Pete seems happy, he radiates a sense of despair. I don't think he really thinks he's happy.

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