Sociopaths are well known for doing great jobs pretending to care about things. Not buying it at all that street smart grifter Jimmy can pull off elaborate detailed hoaxes like the phone scam, but it doesn't occur to him that he might want to butter the panel up about his relationship to his dead brother.


I agree that he's not acting abnormal in his lack of caring, but failing to put on a show for the panel is a massive break from character IMO.

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that's the point, shakes. it's the thing that eludes him. when he basically said "what does my brother have to do with anything" it showed how much jimmy doesn't want to acknowledge him.

now of course he knows he has to, in which case he probably would believably "put on a show" including his brother. but that's his one blind spot.

if a psychopathic killer wants to impress a parole board and knows he has to talk about his abusive father to garner sympathy, but it's actually his mother who made him the way he is...he's not going to mention his mother.

not buying that at all.

Literally zero chance a con man like Jimmy would somehow not realize he needs to talk about his victim during a hearing like that. Whether he thinks about Chuck or not he would still think about him when prepping for the hearing. Like any con man he would put himself in the shoes of the people on the panel and figure out what they want to hear.


Weak story telling.

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So I am way behind in my DVR viewing -- I just got to the episode where Jimmy starts selling the cell phones -- but wow, this season is REALLY good so far. Hoping to catch up soon so I can read the thread!

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"All crowds boycotting football games shouldn't care who sings or takes a knee because they aren't watching." - Nas

Pretty good.

That post-appeal hallway scene was incredible.

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My Maserati does 186.

Finally.

S'all good man.

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I think he figured out that Kim wrote that letter, not Chuck.

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I like thinking big. . . If you're going to be thinking anything, you might as well think big.
-Donald J. Trump, BPE

this didn't really add up in the end. it turns out the guy really just wanted to see his wife. i would think the professionalism in him would have made him understood that he could finish this and go home. would he had thought that there was no exit after completing the job, it would have made sense for him to freak out and leave. but for him to be the only one who truly went stir crazy didn't seem credible. not in the lengths he went. he had to have known what he did was going to get him killed if he were caught.

i still felt bad for him in the end, though. he was this show's gale.

Chuck had a good singing voice...of course he was played by the actor who was David St. Hubbins.

Was kind of disappointed we didn’t see any other BB cameos other than Gale. Thought we might see Tuco taking in Hector to live with him. I found it odd they left out Nacho, since there was a foreboding feeling when he left with Lalo in the previous episode. Also, the chase between Lalo and Mike didn’t make sense to me...was Lalo out to kill Mike?

Season 5 should be great.

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i actually think that character was written in because the actor who plays tuco was so shaken by having to play such a psychotic character. lalo is basically intel for don eladio. he wasn't going to kill mike, he's trying to see what gus is up to.

He thought he could take advantage of his "friend Michael" which he could not and he also underestimated Fring. He thought he could just talk his way out of it all.
All in all he thought him and Mike were friends. They're not.

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

I sense a CFMB subtext.

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That's pretty much the only way I can look at it working. Good point.

I wonder if we went back a few pages, if someone called this....

that theory, which makes no sense at all, has already been debunked by odenkirk himself. 2 months ago.

https://tvline.com/2018/08/31/better-call-saul-season-4-chuck-letter-kim-jimmy-bob-odenkirk/

The actual letter is what makes no sense at all.

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I like thinking big. . . If you're going to be thinking anything, you might as well think big.
-Donald J. Trump, BPE

I figured the letter was Chuck writing something shitty to Jimmy telling him how he really felt.

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Which is why I think Kim rewrote it.

I think Jimmy faked it if anything.

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this is a classic example of dumb internet theory. the last thing kim does is fake feelings. why would she be getting emotional (twice) to a letter that she re-wrote? she isn't turning into saul goodman, jimmy is.

she's obviously heartbroken over the pouring of chuck's words, and the interesting irony is that when jimmy reads it to her he does it like he's reading through a discarded notebook. before he is about to bring it to the board, she tells him "it's not just the words, it's how you say them." yet, when he said them so unemotionally, she broke down crying.

the hurt expression at the bar hearing is due to seeing jimmy's seemingly real reaction, that finally he has felt the emotions she has.

it's a punch to her gut when he calls them "suckers", revealing obviously that the whole presentation was a con, not just what she thought was going to be embellishment.

I didn't get my theory from the interwebs. As I was watching it, it kinda made sense. Why is she crying? My guess, she remembers reading the hurtful letter Chuck really wrote to Jimmy.

I liked the season finale as an episode but it was a really weak payoff to a slow moving season that didn't really advance the story much. It should pick up with Jimmy starting his practice though. I'm still worried that the show was ultimately about Chuck and Jimmy and as someone else earlier in the thread pointed out will result in shock value "Look at this guy from Breaking Bad!".

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

If you remember, BB had a lot of this slow "filler" stuff going on.

thought it was a pretty meh finale. Completely predictable, I expect more.

Found the whole Jimmy gets his law license back storyline to be a total snoozefest.

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in regards to kim being emotional when reading the letter and how hard she pushed for jimmy to use it legitimately, the answer is fairly simple: she knew the complex relationship between Jimmy and Chuck and wanted along with Jimmy, for Chuck to accept his brother. The letter was a final admission that Chuck had been an asshole and treated his brother like shit. But for Jimmy, the final apology was too late. Chuck had severed the brotherly ties and Jimmy would never forgive him. Kim knew how difficult it had been for Jimmy, but could never grasp how much it actually hurt him. She thought he finally acknowledged the pain and had a breakthrough at the end, which is why she was so destroyed when it was another Slippin' Jimmy

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'Your AT&T Universal Card has arrived'? Oh God, Kick-fucking-ass, I got a Master Card! I don't believe it, man. Life is kinda cool sometimes.

BB was never boring, this season of BCS was garbage.

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bingo.

We wait until 2020 for the next new episode. Rats.

Renewed for a 6th and final season. Hank and Gomez will be in this season. Sounds like we will get some Gene this season as well. LFG!

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Fuck Edwards and Zobrist

Wait, so there's a 5th and 6th? I figured the 5th would be the last, as they seem to be pretty close to the BB timeline.

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