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 Post subject: Marie Kondo
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Is this woman for real? Her interpreter - wow.


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she and her show are very weird, but I have to admit, after half-watching an episode with my wife one night we started watching a few more episodes wouldn't you know we started cleaning out a lot of stuff around our place each weekend and are starting to make some real progress. this show definitely got us moving in the right direction towards digging out from under all of our old stuff. And it DOES feel good.


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Started folding clothes in the drawers like she suggests, based on a recommendation. It works with saving space, but takes a long time.

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i did the same thing, it is pretty amazing the space it saves but it is time-consuming. It is nice when you go in the drawer to have instant access to all of your clothes at a glance without any digging around though. And it helped me clear out a LOT of space in the closet.


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you guys don't fold your clothes? are you 8 year old boys or 16 year old girls?

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you guys don't fold your clothes? are you 8 year old boys or 16 year old girls?

I'm confused by this as well. Are people throwing shirts in their drawers without folding them?

I don't get the mass appeal of this show although it seems I'm hearing her name near daily now. A show about cleaning sounds about as boring as you can get.

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doug - evergreen park wrote:
you guys don't fold your clothes? are you 8 year old boys or 16 year old girls?

I will rephrase; folding clothes the way she does it and storing them 'upright' versus folding and stacking clothes on top of each other.

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oh...well, that's actually pretty clever.

I "roll" my clothes when I go on vacation.

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Yes, that makes more sense.

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I'm sure I previously used the same folding method as FF, which we both picked up while stationed at Fort Polk while serving in the U.S. Army. Hooah.

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i've always folded my clothes, I just started trying this new way and it works, it just takes extra time.


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I'm straight. Never heard of her.

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I don't get the mass appeal of this show although it seems I'm hearing her name near daily now. A show about cleaning sounds about as boring as you can get.


Combine Americans' obsession with "relentless self-improvement" and the mixed emotions that come with an Asian woman telling people what to do and you have enough opinions to fill the oceans.

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make no mistake the show is BORING but seeing her help some of these hoarders clear out their shit is kind of motivational. Some of her ideas are pretty clever.


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I'm not big on material possessions anymore, but I disagree with getting rid of one's book collection. I'd prefer to keep my books, thanks.

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I think you can get a good picture of how hard things really are for people based on how they spend their time. The fact that a show that basically says "Get rid of things you don't care about" is a sensation is a pretty good sign that things are going ok.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I think you can get a good picture of how hard things really are for people based on how they spend their time. The fact that a show that basically says "Get rid of things you don't care about" is a sensation is a pretty good sign that things are going ok.


i think that is part of what amuses me about the show - the fact that someone cleaning their basement or garage or bedroom closet is actually a thing. It is easier for some people to get rid of stuff than it is for others apparently. We arent hoarders but we definitely have way more stuff in our house than we should. At very least this show has in some small way made us more conscious of it and have been unloading a lot of old stuff recently. So for that, thank you Marie Kondo.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I think you can get a good picture of how hard things really are for people based on how they spend their time. The fact that a show that basically says "Get rid of things you don't care about" is a sensation is a pretty good sign that things are going ok.

Do you think the people featured on the lifestyle show are a representative cross-section of America?

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Oh, also, gotta hand it to HuffPo here, this headline is about as close as you can get to "The Thing You Think Is Bad Is Actually Good" without someone hitting the Taboo buzzer on you.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I think you can get a good picture of how hard things really are for people based on how they spend their time. The fact that a show that basically says "Get rid of things you don't care about" is a sensation is a pretty good sign that things are going ok.

Do you think the people featured on the lifestyle show are a representative cross-section of America?
I'm not really talking about the people on the show. I'm talking about the people that not only have the time and interest to watch other shows and still watch a show about cleaning but also they are inspired to throw stuff away because of it. If life was really difficult I think you'd have more to worry about than how the candy bowl on your counter makes you feel.

Note: Poor people still exist and it sucks to be them.

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I'm not denying the existence of people who can ruminate on the happiness they derive from a candy dish. But there aren't enough of them to set the tone for where our country should go.

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I love when things like this come up....new ways to do things...new ways to be happy....and I am sure it helps some people...but then it becomes some standard that is held up as if everyone needs to do it. My wife has a friend who is huge into stuff like this and has been big into the minimalist move. She is constantly bitching that her friends need to do this and do that. Great that it helped you...and some of that would probably help all of us...but we don't need it shoved down our throat.

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In college I knew a guy who hung all his t-shirts on hangers. Like 100s of them. Fucking savage.

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I'm not denying the existence of people who can ruminate on the happiness they derive from a candy dish. But there aren't enough of them to set the tone for where our country should go.
I think it's more than you think. Most of these trends are driven by standard middle class people. It's not like Kim Kardashian is like "Oh, I can get rid of a keychain that does not elicit positive emotions?".

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I'm not denying the existence of people who can ruminate on the happiness they derive from a candy dish. But there aren't enough of them to set the tone for where our country should go.
I think it's more than you think. Most of these trends are driven by standard middle class people. It's not like Kim Kardashian is like "Oh, I can get rid of a keychain that does not elicit positive emotions?".


People have cluttered and dirty houses because they don't have time to clean and organize. They don't have time to clean and organize because people are on average working significantly more hours per week than they have in the past. This is not an indicator of a healthy society.

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And to think I thought this was just a silly show about organizing your home. I had no idea that it indicated that I dont have enough important things to do to do with my time and was an indicator that I lead way too easy of a life if I am willing to spend even a moment watching such a program.


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And to think I thought this was just a silly show about organizing your home. I had no idea that it indicated that I dont have enough important things to do to do with my time and was an indicator that I lead way too easy of a life if I am willing to spend even a moment watching such a program.


I think it's pretty close to the opposite of that.

People's lives have gotten harder over the past 40 years. The transition to two-income households has been completed. Wages are largely stagnant in real terms. The work week is lengthening. Public education, public services and the public sphere in general are disintegrating. These large-scale social transformations put enormous pressure on the quality of domestic life. One such visible symptom of this pressure is the lack of tidy housekeeping that has become prevalent today. People have become dirtier neither by choice nor as a result of character flaws; rather, they're messy because that's what the new social (dis)order demands.

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All my shirts are hung up on hangers. Sweatshirts and sweaters are folded.

My wife had a cleaning lady when I met her and it carried over to when we got married. She works way too hard and I'm way too lazy to do it.


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My wife and I like to imagine what sort of expletive-laden diatribe she is really laying on these couples, that the translator is cleaning up.

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All my shirts are hung up on hangers. Sweatshirts and sweaters are folded.

My wife had a cleaning lady when I met her and it carried over to when we got married. She works way too hard and I'm way too lazy to do it.

This seems backwards.

I hang up sweaters, collared shirts, pullovers, jackets. I fold t-shirts, tanks, shorts and jeans.

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