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Was suppose to come out this Sept but now delayed to March 2021

The Many Saints of Newark is an upcoming American crime drama film directed by Alan Taylor and written by David Chase and Lawrence Konner as a prequel to Chase's HBO crime drama series The Sopranos. The film stars Alessandro Nivola, Leslie Odom Jr., Jon Bernthal, Corey Stoll, Michael Gandolfini, Billy Magnussen, John Magaro, Michela De Rossi, Ray Liotta, and Vera Farmiga. It is set in the 1960s and 1970s in Newark, New Jersey, using the 1967 riots in the city as a backdrop for tensions between the Italian-American and African-American communities.


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Was there tension between a black mob and the Italians in the ‘Sopranos’ as a reoccurring theme? Seems like an odd angle to take for a prequel.. why not just do another mobster show..? Can’t help but feel we may get agenda based bullcrap worked into the overall story that will cause a lot of people to tune it out.


Anyway.. wondering if Terrance Winter is involved in this too. ‘Boardwalk Empire’ was an awesome show and I know he was involved with the original Sopranos

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Was there tension between a black mob and the Italians in the ‘Sopranos’ as a reoccurring theme?


Not beyond the fact that they always blamed stuff on unidentified black guys. Or Chris hiring black guys for a hit then killing them after the hit got called off.

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i was really hoping for a HBO weekly series. Putting this into a movie will make it bomb.


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NME wrote:
Was there tension between a black mob and the Italians in the ‘Sopranos’ as a reoccurring theme? Seems like an odd angle to take for a prequel.. why not just do another mobster show..? Can’t help but feel we may get agenda based bullcrap worked into the overall story that will cause a lot of people to tune it out.

Dude. Relax. You sound silly


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Was there tension between a black mob and the Italians in the ‘Sopranos’ as a reoccurring theme? Seems like an odd angle to take for a prequel.. why not just do another mobster show..? Can’t help but feel we may get agenda based bullcrap worked into the overall story that will cause a lot of people to tune it out.

Dude. Relax. You sound silly




I’m perfectly calm.

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After reading that synopsis I totally agree with NME.


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A Bronx Tale had that too. It was a great movie.


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my favorite tv series of all-time. disappointed in the last few years - some ridiculous plot lines. by the last season, it was obvious they wanted and needed to get the series over with; fatigue, i guess.

in season 1, we saw tony have flashbacks to 1967 and newark. we'll see what they come up with. looking forward to it, a bit. very sad knowing that gandolfini is gone and can never return in a movie or series.


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Crick Ramp wrote:
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Was there tension between a black mob and the Italians in the ‘Sopranos’ as a reoccurring theme? Seems like an odd angle to take for a prequel.. why not just do another mobster show..? Can’t help but feel we may get agenda based bullcrap worked into the overall story that will cause a lot of people to tune it out.

Dude. Relax. You sound silly

It seems more than reasonable for a prequel—based on a time decades before the series—to focus on something that wasn’t necessarily a “reoccurring theme.”

Plus, chase has been writing this for years. I don’t anticipate a full on BLM theme taking place. Just seems odd that’s immediately where your mind went when you read that 2 sentence synopsis


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NWsider4-3-3 wrote:
my favorite tv series of all-time. disappointed in the last few years - some ridiculous plot lines. by the last season, it was obvious they wanted and needed to get the series over with; fatigue, i guess.

in season 1, we saw tony have flashbacks to 1967 and newark. we'll see what they come up with. looking forward to it, a bit. very sad knowing that gandolfini is gone and can never return in a movie or series.

My main complaint of the sopranos as a whole was the disjointed plot lines of the later seasons and the revolving door of minor characters. It’s taken years of watching YouTube clips to piece together some of it.

Still think it’s the GOAT series though because if it’s impact and the incredible highs they managed to reach with classic scenes between the main characters.


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my favorite tv series of all-time. disappointed in the last few years - some ridiculous plot lines. by the last season, it was obvious they wanted and needed to get the series over with; fatigue, i guess.

in season 1, we saw tony have flashbacks to 1967 and newark. we'll see what they come up with. looking forward to it, a bit. very sad knowing that gandolfini is gone and can never return in a movie or series.

My main complaint of the sopranos as a whole was the disjointed plot lines of the later seasons and the revolving door of minor characters. It’s taken years of watching YouTube clips to piece together some of it.

Still think it’s the GOAT series though because if it’s impact and the incredible highs they managed to reach with classic scenes between the main characters.


agree. i was also disappointed in that some great characters were killed off too quickly - richie aprile is one. uncle junior was gold with his wise-cracks and idiosyncrasies, unfortunately, chase turned him into a vegetable too early.


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Crick Ramp wrote:
NME wrote:
Was there tension between a black mob and the Italians in the ‘Sopranos’ as a reoccurring theme? Seems like an odd angle to take for a prequel.. why not just do another mobster show..? Can’t help but feel we may get agenda based bullcrap worked into the overall story that will cause a lot of people to tune it out.

Dude. Relax. You sound silly

It is a good point. You can't get a new show off the ground these days unless you pander to this and focus everything on it.

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Crick Ramp wrote:
NME wrote:
Was there tension between a black mob and the Italians in the ‘Sopranos’ as a reoccurring theme? Seems like an odd angle to take for a prequel.. why not just do another mobster show..? Can’t help but feel we may get agenda based bullcrap worked into the overall story that will cause a lot of people to tune it out.

Dude. Relax. You sound silly

It is a good point. You can't get a new show off the ground these days unless you pander to this and focus everything on it.

Not true. Plenty of shows that don’t focus on what you seem to fear.

Plus, chase has a history of purposely not making any character or “side” look entirely virtuous. Or even likable.

I’d be shocked if the goal of this film is to portray events thru the lens of modern sensibilities about race. But something tells me those already fixated on that will find “evidence” to support their worries regardless.


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Crick Ramp wrote:
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Crick Ramp wrote:
NME wrote:
Was there tension between a black mob and the Italians in the ‘Sopranos’ as a reoccurring theme? Seems like an odd angle to take for a prequel.. why not just do another mobster show..? Can’t help but feel we may get agenda based bullcrap worked into the overall story that will cause a lot of people to tune it out.

Dude. Relax. You sound silly

It is a good point. You can't get a new show off the ground these days unless you pander to this and focus everything on it.

Not true. Plenty of shows that don’t focus on what you seem to fear.

Plus, chase has a history of purposely not making any character or “side” look entirely virtuous. Or even likable.

I’d be shocked if the goal of this film is to portray events thru the lens of modern sensibilities about race. But something tells me those already fixated on that will find “evidence” to support their worries regardless.

Sopranos is about Daygos whacking Daygos.

Period.

Why be disingenuous? It is pandering, plain and simple.

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FukNuggitt wrote:
Crick Ramp wrote:
FukNuggitt wrote:
Crick Ramp wrote:
NME wrote:
Was there tension between a black mob and the Italians in the ‘Sopranos’ as a reoccurring theme? Seems like an odd angle to take for a prequel.. why not just do another mobster show..? Can’t help but feel we may get agenda based bullcrap worked into the overall story that will cause a lot of people to tune it out.

Dude. Relax. You sound silly

It is a good point. You can't get a new show off the ground these days unless you pander to this and focus everything on it.

Not true. Plenty of shows that don’t focus on what you seem to fear.

Plus, chase has a history of purposely not making any character or “side” look entirely virtuous. Or even likable.

I’d be shocked if the goal of this film is to portray events thru the lens of modern sensibilities about race. But something tells me those already fixated on that will find “evidence” to support their worries regardless.

Sopranos is about Daygos whacking Daygos.

Period.

Simply not true.

My goodness.

But why get so worked up about what could happen? It’s very odd. Why so personally invested in your own interpretations of a work of fiction? I really don’t get that.


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But why get so worked up about what could happen? It’s very odd. Why so personally invested in your own interpretations of a work of fiction? I really don’t get that.

Because everything has to go through this weird political projectionist door now just to be greenlit.

It is more than evident.

Not even the Goombahs are safe from this net.

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The actor that played Richie Aprile should get Emmy Awards yearly til the end of time. Just amazing. too bad I have not seen him in anything else since that role.


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FukNuggitt wrote:
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But why get so worked up about what could happen? It’s very odd. Why so personally invested in your own interpretations of a work of fiction? I really don’t get that.

Because everything has to go through this weird political projectionist door now just to be greenlit.

It is more than evident.

Not even the Goombahs are safe from this net.

You must be doing a bit.


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Crick Ramp wrote:
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But why get so worked up about what could happen? It’s very odd. Why so personally invested in your own interpretations of a work of fiction? I really don’t get that.

Because everything has to go through this weird political projectionist door now just to be greenlit.

It is more than evident.

Not even the Goombahs are safe from this net.

You must be doing a bit.

No.

I just don't like all this unnecessary meddling in shit. I don't like being told what to think and how to act. I and everyone else are perfectly good with controlling ourselves.

Let things go to their natural course, and tell things exactly as they occur or would have occurred.

Lets not live in one political party's fantasyland and pass it off as a new reality.

Do YOU like being programmed?

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FukNuggitt wrote:
Crick Ramp wrote:
FukNuggitt wrote:
Crick Ramp wrote:
But why get so worked up about what could happen? It’s very odd. Why so personally invested in your own interpretations of a work of fiction? I really don’t get that.

Because everything has to go through this weird political projectionist door now just to be greenlit.

It is more than evident.

Not even the Goombahs are safe from this net.

You must be doing a bit.

No.

I just don't like all this unnecessary meddling in shit. I don't like being told what to think and how to act. I and everyone else are perfectly good with controlling ourselves.

Let things go to their natural course, and tell things exactly as they occur or would have occurred.

Lets not live in one political party's fantasyland and pass it off as a new reality.

Do YOU like being programmed?


Sadly the majority of people do. They want to be told how to think and what to think. They need a 'big brother' to find structure in their lives. This is nothing new. Been like that for a long time but more much more increased these days.

Death of free thought and free will is a social holocaust in our culture considering that is what made this country great.


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FukNuggitt wrote:
Crick Ramp wrote:
FukNuggitt wrote:
Crick Ramp wrote:
But why get so worked up about what could happen? It’s very odd. Why so personally invested in your own interpretations of a work of fiction? I really don’t get that.

Because everything has to go through this weird political projectionist door now just to be greenlit.

It is more than evident.

Not even the Goombahs are safe from this net.

You must be doing a bit.

No.

I just don't like all this unnecessary meddling in shit. I don't like being told what to think and how to act. I and everyone else are perfectly good with controlling ourselves.

Let things go to their natural course, and tell things exactly as they occur or would have occurred.

Lets not live in one political party's fantasyland and pass it off as a new reality.

Do YOU like being programmed?

How were the story lines in the Sopranos about Hesh and Massive Genuis, or Tony and the rapper he shared a hospital room with examples of programming?

Or the Sopranos using post 9/11 themes as a central part of the middle seasons?

But my main contention here is not anything about any other show or society at large. It’s about you extrapolating everything you’re assuming will happen based merely on a few sentences from what the prequel will be about.

You are making soooooo many assumptions and getting seemingly emotional about a bunch of what-ifs.


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this movie will bomb


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this movie will bomb

Which you’ve already stated.


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Look, I am excited about seeing Gandalfini's kid play the younger him.

That shit is going to be heavy.

I just don't want something dishonest.

How many times have we exposed media dishonesty recently?

They do not deserve an iota of anyone's trust.

I think its stupid to just inject black people into Story X to fit a certain pattern, etc.

You want to give black actors jobs? I don't know why nobody has done a show or movie about Mike Tyson's childhood, etc. The shit he went through is so damn interesting and useful for the average human to hear about, it would be a mega-hit - and it would be true to both itself and the audience.

Why do you think the recent Bulls/Jordan shit was so heralded?

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real funny shit here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkwokEePMRI


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this movie will bomb


likely. the bar is set too high from the original series.

what year was tony born? i think 1958 - n j drivers license shown in episode when an angry tony pulled over by an angry black cop with an unhappy carm in car. great scene by all involved - carm/tony/cop

for this work, i'm guessing lots of non-tony stuff early. his parents/junior/walnuts. young silvio, artie, etc...i'm expecting to see his real life son as tony in late 1970s-early 1980s. i'm assuming movie gets into the the early 80's - tony and jackie aprile robbing feech's card game, the unrest of '83, as big pussy called it.

high bar is set.


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NWsider4-3-3 wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
this movie will bomb


likely. the bar is set too high from the original series.

what year was tony born? i think 1958 - n j drivers license shown in episode when an angry tony pulled over by an angry black cop with an unhappy carm in car. great scene by all involved - carm/tony/cop

for this work, i'm guessing lots of non-tony stuff early. his parents/junior/walnuts. young silvio, artie, etc...i'm expecting to see his real life son as tony in late 1970s-early 1980s. i'm assuming movie gets into the the early 80's - tony and jackie aprile robbing feech's card game, the unrest of '83, as big pussy called it.

high bar is set.

Iirc Chris Moltisanti called it the unrest of 83. I don’t think the movie will get that far but that’d be cool.

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HawaiiYou wrote:
this movie will bomb


likely. the bar is set too high from the original series.

what year was tony born? i think 1958 - n j drivers license shown in episode when an angry tony pulled over by an angry black cop with an unhappy carm in car. great scene by all involved - carm/tony/cop

for this work, i'm guessing lots of non-tony stuff early. his parents/junior/walnuts. young silvio, artie, etc...i'm expecting to see his real life son as tony in late 1970s-early 1980s. i'm assuming movie gets into the the early 80's - tony and jackie aprile robbing feech's card game, the unrest of '83, as big pussy called it.

high bar is set.

Iirc Chris Moltisanti called it the unrest of 83. I don’t think the movie will get that far but that’d be cool.

...83

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HawaiiYou wrote:
this movie will bomb


likely. the bar is set too high from the original series.

what year was tony born? i think 1958 - n j drivers license shown in episode when an angry tony pulled over by an angry black cop with an unhappy carm in car. great scene by all involved - carm/tony/cop

for this work, i'm guessing lots of non-tony stuff early. his parents/junior/walnuts. young silvio, artie, etc...i'm expecting to see his real life son as tony in late 1970s-early 1980s. i'm assuming movie gets into the the early 80's - tony and jackie aprile robbing feech's card game, the unrest of '83, as big pussy called it.

high bar is set.

Looks like birth year is 1959 - see 1:38 in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZqLLfpxZkY

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