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2 part series - 1st episode tonight.

About Woody Allen child sexual abuse told by Mia Farrow and her daughter. They both appear and give their side of the experience.

Allen folk already fighting back in the press - saying how 2 of Farrow's kids killed themselves. Like that has anything to do w/ Woody being a pedo.

Taped it and will watch it later and comment some more. But interesting.


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Does this one have Sigourney Weaver?

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Does this one have Sigourney Weaver?


:lol:

At the Super Bowl party I attended two other people and I were having a conversation and it was kind of loud in the room. We were talking about TV shows/movies and we confused each other with Alien, Alias, and The Alienist.

I watched this last night with an open mind. Of course, my wife comes down on the side of "believe women" and it probably doesn't help that Woody looks like a pedophile. (Whatever that means. I know it when I see it. :lol: ) And it certainly doesn't help that he ran off with his lover's teenage daughter. However you slice it, he's minimally a creep. But It will be interesting to see if Woody has his day in court during the second installment. Moses says the whole story is bullshit.

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the story has never made sense, ever since dylan dredged the story back up about 8 years ago in a piece which she begins with "What's your favorite Woody Allen movie?" she has never had anything to her legacy except for this story about the *one time* Woody assaulted her. pedophiles don't attack their prey one time. it's a systemic and compulsive disorder. allen has a thing for young women, to be sure. but he's been with soon yi for over 20 years, faithfully as far as we know, and she wasn't a little girl when woody got together with her.

he definitely is a creep. but mia farrow is a psychopath and dylan is most likely her trained robot who has wanted to destroy woody. mia herself was unfaithful and if anyone thinks that ronan farrow *isn't* sinatra's biological son, you're blind.

also, while mia harps on this pedophilia story, she backs roman polanski every chance she gets. you'd think to protect her daughter she would go against him as well, considering what he did.


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things i observed from episode 1 -

Mia Farrow is one spacey person. I dont think she lives in reality but she has tons of money so i guess she can live her fantasy in real life. She comes off as a real airhead.

Allen never wanted anything to do with Children. Never wanted to be a dad. Farrow said this and Allen confirmed in the doc. Then why did he take on raising all these children? Allen's a typical self loving hollywood type. Wants to only concentrate on himself and career and has not time for anything else like a family.

Allen was against the adopted kids from asia that did not look like him. He wanted to adopt a blonde girl he told Farrow. Basically a white child. Not surprising as he's a elitist.

after the observation above, I think the entire marriage to his daughter is bullshit. It's just to keep him out of jail.

Allen has been protected all these years after these allegations. It's like he's a pedophile's pedophile. The entertainment industry has done everything to protect this guy. The rumors of a pedo ring in hollywood would not surprise me if true. but seems like anyone else who would have had these accusations against them would be pretty much cancelled a long time ago. But not Allen.

Taking Naked porn pictures of your daughter is really fucked up.


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Mia Farrow has been out of her fucking mind for a long time:

http://mosesfarrow.blogspot.com/2018/05 ... arrow.html

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Mia Farrow has been out of her fucking mind for a long time:

http://mosesfarrow.blogspot.com/2018/05 ... arrow.html


those glasses on that kid look creepy. why would a parent put something like that on that kid. he probably got beat up in school for it. if he went to school. and he grew up in the 80s/90s i think, way before harry potter.


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the story has never made sense, ever since dylan dredged the story back up about 8 years ago in a piece which she begins with "What's your favorite Woody Allen movie?" she has never had anything to her legacy except for this story about the *one time* Woody assaulted her. pedophiles don't attack their prey one time. it's a systemic and compulsive disorder. allen has a thing for young women, to be sure. but he's been with soon yi for over 20 years, faithfully as far as we know, and she wasn't a little girl when woody got together with her.

he definitely is a creep. but mia farrow is a psychopath and dylan is most likely her trained robot who has wanted to destroy woody. mia herself was unfaithful and if anyone thinks that ronan farrow *isn't* sinatra's biological son, you're blind.

also, while mia harps on this pedophilia story, she backs roman polanski every chance she gets. you'd think to protect her daughter she would go against him as well, considering what he did.
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Mia Farrow has been out of her fucking mind for a long time:

http://mosesfarrow.blogspot.com/2018/05 ... arrow.html


those glasses on that kid look creepy. why would a parent put something like that on that kid. he probably got beat up in school for it. if he went to school. and he grew up in the 80s/90s i think, way before harry potter.


they look like a stereotype

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i'm not taking sides. i'm pointing out that the side HBO is taking is just as batshit as if you were going to believe "apropos of nothing" is 100% factual and true.


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the story has never made sense, ever since dylan dredged the story back up about 8 years ago in a piece which she begins with "What's your favorite Woody Allen movie?" she has never had anything to her legacy except for this story about the *one time* Woody assaulted her. pedophiles don't attack their prey one time. it's a systemic and compulsive disorder. allen has a thing for young women, to be sure. but he's been with soon yi for over 20 years, faithfully as far as we know, and she wasn't a little girl when woody got together with her.

he definitely is a creep. but mia farrow is a psychopath and dylan is most likely her trained robot who has wanted to destroy woody. mia herself was unfaithful and if anyone thinks that ronan farrow *isn't* sinatra's biological son, you're blind.

also, while mia harps on this pedophilia story, she backs roman polanski every chance she gets. you'd think to protect her daughter she would go against him as well, considering what he did.


all these people are really fucked up. and i read that the ronan kid is frank Sinatra's son apparently. I mean he looks like Frank more than Woody, by a long shot. He was on w/ Bill Maher and Maher told him when he asked about if he's Sinatra's kid 'do you own a mirror?'. https://deadline.com/2019/11/president- ... 202775277/


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i'm not taking sides. i'm pointing out that the side HBO is taking is just as batshit as if you were going to believe "apropos of nothing" is 100% factual and true.



ya this is what i feel too. none of this is black and white. it leaves me more confused than anything else. let's wait for part 2.


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Taking Naked porn pictures of your daughter is really fucked up.



I'm gonna say he didn't consider Soon-Yi his daughter. But hooking up with your lover's daughter is fucked up enough.

One thing my wife said that I agree with is that it seems as if children are almost completely alien to him and he has no clue what is or isn't appropriate.

Also, you can laugh at QAnon or Comet Pizza or any of that nonsense- I certainly don't put any stock in it- but it should be abundantly clear that the social and sexual mores of Hollywood and New York elites are far different than those of the working stiff on Main Street.

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Taking Naked porn pictures of your daughter is really fucked up.



I'm gonna say he didn't consider Soon-Yi his daughter. But hooking up with your lover's daughter is fucked up enough.

One thing my wife said that I agree with is that it seems as if children are almost completely alien to him and he has no clue what is or isn't appropriate.

Also, you can laugh at QAnon or Comet Pizza or any of that nonsense- I certainly don't put any stock in it- but it should be abundantly clear that the social and sexual mores of Hollywood and New York elites are far different than those of the working stiff on Main Street.


It seems like movie directors had a go to move of being "artists" who were willing to show the beauty of the human body by photographing young girls in the nude.

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HawaiiYou wrote:
Taking Naked porn pictures of your daughter is really fucked up.



I'm gonna say he didn't consider Soon-Yi his daughter. But hooking up with your lover's daughter is fucked up enough.

One thing my wife said that I agree with is that it seems as if children are almost completely alien to him and he has no clue what is or isn't appropriate.

Also, you can laugh at QAnon or Comet Pizza or any of that nonsense- I certainly don't put any stock in it- but it should be abundantly clear that the social and sexual mores of Hollywood and New York elites are far different than those of the working stiff on Main Street.


that's not a qanon thing, that's a rumor/reality going back to since the inception of Hollywood.


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HawaiiYou wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
Taking Naked porn pictures of your daughter is really fucked up.



I'm gonna say he didn't consider Soon-Yi his daughter. But hooking up with your lover's daughter is fucked up enough.

One thing my wife said that I agree with is that it seems as if children are almost completely alien to him and he has no clue what is or isn't appropriate.

Also, you can laugh at QAnon or Comet Pizza or any of that nonsense- I certainly don't put any stock in it- but it should be abundantly clear that the social and sexual mores of Hollywood and New York elites are far different than those of the working stiff on Main Street.


that's not a qanon thing, that's a rumor/reality going back to since the inception of Hollywood.


Like the VAST majority of Americans I know very little about QAnon, but isn't one of its core tenets that there is massive and unchecked pedophilia among America's elite ruling class?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
HawaiiYou wrote:
Taking Naked porn pictures of your daughter is really fucked up.



I'm gonna say he didn't consider Soon-Yi his daughter. But hooking up with your lover's daughter is fucked up enough.

One thing my wife said that I agree with is that it seems as if children are almost completely alien to him and he has no clue what is or isn't appropriate.

Also, you can laugh at QAnon or Comet Pizza or any of that nonsense- I certainly don't put any stock in it- but it should be abundantly clear that the social and sexual mores of Hollywood and New York elites are far different than those of the working stiff on Main Street.


that's not a qanon thing, that's a rumor/reality going back to since the inception of Hollywood.


Like the VAST majority of Americans I know very little about QAnon, but isn't one of its core tenets that there is massive and unchecked pedophilia among America's elite ruling class?


im not sure about QAnon but pedo's in the elite class was around long before.


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I wonder if this will be covered in Ep 2:

http://mosesfarrow.blogspot.com/2018/05 ... w.html?m=1

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this was made around the time of allen's book. the guy definitely goes a long way to defend woody, and it's extremely long. but it points out the craziness of mia farrow and her obsession with having to look like a perfect mother, and it mentions moses' accusations about her abuse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muyaCg2dGAk


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I wonder if this will be covered in Ep 2:

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My mother, of course, had her own darkness. She married 50-year-old Frank Sinatra when she was only 21. After they divorced, she moved in to live with her close friend Dory Previn and her husband André. When my mother became pregnant by André, the Previns’ marriage broke up, leading to Dory’s institutionalization. It was never spoken of in our home, of course, and not even known to me until a few years ago. But, as I look at it – as a licensed therapist as well as an eyewitness – it’s easy to see the seeds of dysfunction that would flourish within our own home.


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To those who have become convinced of my father’s guilt, I ask you to consider this: In this time of #MeToo, when so many movie heavyweights have faced dozens of accusations, my father has been accused of wrongdoing only once, by an enraged ex-partner during contentious custody negotiations. During almost 60 years in the public eye, not one other person has come forward to accuse him of even behaving badly on a date, or acting inappropriately in any professional situation, let alone molesting a child. As a trained professional, I know that child molestation is a compulsive sickness and deviation that demands repetition. Dylan was alone with Woody in his apartment countless times over the years without a hint of impropriety, yet some would have you believe that at the age of 56, he suddenly decided to become a child molester in a house full of hostile people ordered to watch him like a hawk.


I've never knew all this before. It certainly seems like this is a a revenge plot by a crazy person.

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I wonder if this will be covered in Ep 2:

http://mosesfarrow.blogspot.com/2018/05 ... w.html?m=1


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My mother, of course, had her own darkness. She married 50-year-old Frank Sinatra when she was only 21. After they divorced, she moved in to live with her close friend Dory Previn and her husband André. When my mother became pregnant by André, the Previns’ marriage broke up, leading to Dory’s institutionalization. It was never spoken of in our home, of course, and not even known to me until a few years ago. But, as I look at it – as a licensed therapist as well as an eyewitness – it’s easy to see the seeds of dysfunction that would flourish within our own home.


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To those who have become convinced of my father’s guilt, I ask you to consider this: In this time of #MeToo, when so many movie heavyweights have faced dozens of accusations, my father has been accused of wrongdoing only once, by an enraged ex-partner during contentious custody negotiations. During almost 60 years in the public eye, not one other person has come forward to accuse him of even behaving badly on a date, or acting inappropriately in any professional situation, let alone molesting a child. As a trained professional, I know that child molestation is a compulsive sickness and deviation that demands repetition. Dylan was alone with Woody in his apartment countless times over the years without a hint of impropriety, yet some would have you believe that at the age of 56, he suddenly decided to become a child molester in a house full of hostile people ordered to watch him like a hawk.


I've never knew all this before. It certainly seems like this is a a revenge plot by a crazy person.


It's a really odd world where falling in love with your paramour's young daughter (an adopted daughter without a father in the house, no less) is not considered "wrongdoing".

Maybe it wasn't criminal, but how can a "licensed therapist" dismiss the behavior.

How can a brother to the girl, for that matter. If some lech had come sniffing around my sister when we were in our teens, he and I would have had a discussion.

This is really the problem with discussing other possible acts by Woody. What we already know as fact and agreed to by all sides is sufficiently damning.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I wonder if this will be covered in Ep 2:

http://mosesfarrow.blogspot.com/2018/05 ... w.html?m=1


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My mother, of course, had her own darkness. She married 50-year-old Frank Sinatra when she was only 21. After they divorced, she moved in to live with her close friend Dory Previn and her husband André. When my mother became pregnant by André, the Previns’ marriage broke up, leading to Dory’s institutionalization. It was never spoken of in our home, of course, and not even known to me until a few years ago. But, as I look at it – as a licensed therapist as well as an eyewitness – it’s easy to see the seeds of dysfunction that would flourish within our own home.


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To those who have become convinced of my father’s guilt, I ask you to consider this: In this time of #MeToo, when so many movie heavyweights have faced dozens of accusations, my father has been accused of wrongdoing only once, by an enraged ex-partner during contentious custody negotiations. During almost 60 years in the public eye, not one other person has come forward to accuse him of even behaving badly on a date, or acting inappropriately in any professional situation, let alone molesting a child. As a trained professional, I know that child molestation is a compulsive sickness and deviation that demands repetition. Dylan was alone with Woody in his apartment countless times over the years without a hint of impropriety, yet some would have you believe that at the age of 56, he suddenly decided to become a child molester in a house full of hostile people ordered to watch him like a hawk.


I've never knew all this before. It certainly seems like this is a a revenge plot by a crazy person.


It's a really odd world where falling in love with your paramour's young daughter (an adopted daughter without a father in the house, no less) is not considered "wrongdoing".

Maybe it wasn't criminal, but how can a "licensed therapist" dismiss the behavior.

How can a brother to the girl, for that matter. If some lech had come sniffing around my sister when we were in our teens, he and I would have had a discussion.

This is really the problem with discussing other possible acts by Woody. What we already know as fact and agreed to by all sides is sufficiently damning.


There's a vast ocean between being a scumbag and being a pedophile.

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I don't think there is any question Woody Allen is creepy. But what's worse marrying your girlfriend's adopted daughter or getting pregnant by your best friend's husband and putting her in an institution? I don't know. The acts seem to be about in the same league.

I would say that coaching your children to believe that their father abused them is about as monstrous as it gets. And given the evidence including the investigation that occurred at the time of the original allegations that's what seems to be the truth of what occurred.

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good dolphin wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I wonder if this will be covered in Ep 2:

http://mosesfarrow.blogspot.com/2018/05 ... w.html?m=1


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My mother, of course, had her own darkness. She married 50-year-old Frank Sinatra when she was only 21. After they divorced, she moved in to live with her close friend Dory Previn and her husband André. When my mother became pregnant by André, the Previns’ marriage broke up, leading to Dory’s institutionalization. It was never spoken of in our home, of course, and not even known to me until a few years ago. But, as I look at it – as a licensed therapist as well as an eyewitness – it’s easy to see the seeds of dysfunction that would flourish within our own home.


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To those who have become convinced of my father’s guilt, I ask you to consider this: In this time of #MeToo, when so many movie heavyweights have faced dozens of accusations, my father has been accused of wrongdoing only once, by an enraged ex-partner during contentious custody negotiations. During almost 60 years in the public eye, not one other person has come forward to accuse him of even behaving badly on a date, or acting inappropriately in any professional situation, let alone molesting a child. As a trained professional, I know that child molestation is a compulsive sickness and deviation that demands repetition. Dylan was alone with Woody in his apartment countless times over the years without a hint of impropriety, yet some would have you believe that at the age of 56, he suddenly decided to become a child molester in a house full of hostile people ordered to watch him like a hawk.


I've never knew all this before. It certainly seems like this is a a revenge plot by a crazy person.


It's a really odd world where falling in love with your paramour's young daughter (an adopted daughter without a father in the house, no less) is not considered "wrongdoing".

Maybe it wasn't criminal, but how can a "licensed therapist" dismiss the behavior.

How can a brother to the girl, for that matter. If some lech had come sniffing around my sister when we were in our teens, he and I would have had a discussion.

This is really the problem with discussing other possible acts by Woody. What we already know as fact and agreed to by all sides is sufficiently damning.


There's a vast ocean between being a scumbag and being a pedophile.


of course, but I don't really need the other info to be true to hold something against Woody

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I wonder if this will be covered in Ep 2:

http://mosesfarrow.blogspot.com/2018/05 ... w.html?m=1


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My mother, of course, had her own darkness. She married 50-year-old Frank Sinatra when she was only 21. After they divorced, she moved in to live with her close friend Dory Previn and her husband André. When my mother became pregnant by André, the Previns’ marriage broke up, leading to Dory’s institutionalization. It was never spoken of in our home, of course, and not even known to me until a few years ago. But, as I look at it – as a licensed therapist as well as an eyewitness – it’s easy to see the seeds of dysfunction that would flourish within our own home.


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To those who have become convinced of my father’s guilt, I ask you to consider this: In this time of #MeToo, when so many movie heavyweights have faced dozens of accusations, my father has been accused of wrongdoing only once, by an enraged ex-partner during contentious custody negotiations. During almost 60 years in the public eye, not one other person has come forward to accuse him of even behaving badly on a date, or acting inappropriately in any professional situation, let alone molesting a child. As a trained professional, I know that child molestation is a compulsive sickness and deviation that demands repetition. Dylan was alone with Woody in his apartment countless times over the years without a hint of impropriety, yet some would have you believe that at the age of 56, he suddenly decided to become a child molester in a house full of hostile people ordered to watch him like a hawk.


I've never knew all this before. It certainly seems like this is a a revenge plot by a crazy person.


It's a really odd world where falling in love with your paramour's young daughter (an adopted daughter without a father in the house, no less) is not considered "wrongdoing".

Maybe it wasn't criminal, but how can a "licensed therapist" dismiss the behavior.

How can a brother to the girl, for that matter. If some lech had come sniffing around my sister when we were in our teens, he and I would have had a discussion.

This is really the problem with discussing other possible acts by Woody. What we already know as fact and agreed to by all sides is sufficiently damning.


There's a vast ocean between being a scumbag and being a pedophile.


of course, but I don't really need the other info to be true to hold something against Woody


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Woody Allen is disgusting, but Mia Farrow is pure evil. She collected children as if they were baseball cards and didn't treat them half as well.

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Woody Allen is disgusting, but Mia Farrow is pure evil. She collected children as if they were baseball cards and didn't treat them half as well.


Yes. And this documentary is the continued legacy of how crazy and evil she is.

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from the looks of it, though, that's not how the documentarians (quote unquote) are framing it.


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