Premiered in Australia last night. Guy posted spoilers and I read them.
All I can say is,this is going to be huge suckage

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Any movie can sound stupid if you just read bullet point spoilers. I mean if you read any ST script it probably sounds like suckage too. ST 09 was good and the last trailer for this one looked fine.

Well,If you want I can post he link but it was an overview of the entire movie. I am talking bad.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

No, I've read all the spoilers, but I don't really feel like judging a movie I haven't seen based on the description some douche on the Internet wrote up. If it was Roger Ebert's ghost, maybe, but not Botanybayfan321. The trailers look fine and I enjoyed JJTrek. I can see if you didn't like it having concerns about Into Darkness, but not like you would have to wait to see spoilers to feel that way.

What part does Phil Emery play?

this is the age of the overzealous internet fanboy. it actually started back in the early 90's when someone circulated a treatment for a "star wars" prequel called "star wars: fall of the empire" if i recall correctly. i remember reading it and thinking it was pretty interesting...it wound up being somewhat used for "revenge of the sith" although no credit was given to the writer.

in 1994, the script of "star trek: generations" was uploaded all over BBS's and fanboys got their panties in a bunch about that, too. turned out to be an early shooting draft of the script and about 20 pages weren't even in the film.

this is what they do. they're impatient and now that they live in a world where everything is at their fingertips, they have to jump the gun on everything. they get riled up by seeing a still photo frame from their favorite comic book hero movie coming out, and sometimes go nuts about just hearing about a production starting on a comic book related movie that probably won't be released for another 5 years.

we've got a little saying around here...get used to it, hitler.

He wanted to cast Jeffrey Hunter as the Captain.

Once again W_Z hit it right on the head. I visit a lot of these sites (Aintitcoolnews,etc),these guys have to know everything before the movie comes out. They start talking about movies 2 years down the road. It's the internet at it's worst.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Nope.

This is the internet at it's worst.
http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=78531

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DB,
I never looked at those sites. Are they conspiracy theory sites?

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Great Movie. I won't provide any spoilers. But I will say that there are several homages to past Star Trek movies/shows to get the geeks all riled up. Good fun. I can't say enough about the quality casting for all the main roles.

Well done, JJ. Now don't fuk up Star Wars.

It wasn't as good as the first remake, but entertaining anyway. Think it tried too hard to get the homages in that those unfamiliar with the show will miss them and those who are hardcore nerds will nitpick the hell out of. Annoyed by the whitewashing of having Sherlock play the villain, but oh well. Also as a pretty big Trek fan I think it's venturing too far into action movie and not enough science-fiction, but that was kind of my expectation anyway. The old pacing of Star Trek movies and the TV series just aren't going to get much traction nowadays.

I saw the movie at the IMAX and it was very entertaining. the logic in the story was terribly skewed.





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It tried to send a message,don't be as ruthless as your enemy BUT if Kirk followed his original orders,thousands of people would not have died towards the end of the movie because the major badguy would have been dead and would not have crashed landed in the middle of that city. I guess you could say the war with the Klingons would have occurred but that wasn't a given.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

I think it was pretty clear war with the Klingons was a given based on Admiral Robocop's actions and Section 31. I also don't think Kirk really had the chance to follow his orders regarding the main villain.

Probably spoilers...

First off, I have watched every Star Trek, but don't consider myself a Trekkie. I'm not sure where I fall as a fan, but I tried not to let it scathe what I have to say.

Action... was awesome. Many of the scenes were emotionally fulfilling. When the Enterprise is falling back to earth, I was glued. The scene where it falls through the clouds was great. Everything around the second ship was really cool, including the London destruction. The quick battle with the Klingons was also pretty cool, specifically watching how Khan fought.

Acting... was pretty good. A lot of good dialog, humor, etc. Much of the stuff that was good in the previous movie.

Story.. was beyond awful. First off, everything was so predictable. Kirk getting brought back to life with Khan's blood. The torpedos not being real. Khan playing Kirk false. I was really let down as I walked out of the theater. "Oh my God, we are all going to die! What do we do?!?!? Call Time-Traveling Spock!" I didn't need Nimoy in this movie at all. And is that really how you want to deliver the background story of one of the great movie villains of all time? "I'm not supposed to tell you this, but Khan is the worst villain ever." "Thanks Time-Traveling Spock, now that you validated it, I can go kill him." Really? I mean, really? There was so much potential to play Khan and Kirk off each other. Here is the young, brash kid vs. the worst villain of all time. Instead it was like a light replay of Heath Ledger's joker. Khan is always a little ahead because Starfleet needs to follow their rules. Then when you get to the big scene, its Time-Traveling Spock to the rescue. If this is what JJ wants in his stories, just kill Kirk and make Spock the damned captain. You pretty much ruined Kirk's character in this movie, IMHO.

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Hoffy is right that the predictability. I still enjoyed it. I felt that even though I had a pretty good idea of what was going to happen, it still was cool to see how they got there.

And he's absolutely right, there was no need for Time Traveling Spock... I can only guess this is there to re-emphasize that this is a parallel timeline to the classical Trek mythology.

And total cornball moment was the flip-flopped Spock/Kirk in the contaminated chamber.

The Spock scene was certainly wedged in there just to have a scene with Spock, but I don't think he really saved the day or anything. Was cool for someone to call Khan by his real name though. My biggest complaint was they didn't get my favorite Khan line. "Our shields are dropping." "THEN RAISE THEM!"

I cannot express, even in n-words, how pleased I am for you to have mentioned having read it as well .... I knew I had read something that really lined-up with Revenge but, obviously, I couldn't "prove" it.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
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Always think of that line when I'm watching Major League ... "this guy's dead. Cross him off then." and vice-versa.

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- Henry George

Saw this yesterday in 3D IMAX. I love that experience when it's done right. The 3D wasn't that spectacular after the opening sequence but it was still pretty exhilarating overall.

once again, this is a masterful job of acting for the major characters. urban still seems to be doing more of an impersonation of bones than an actual acting job. but since he's not one of the major players in the story for the most part, it's not a big distraction.

the story is predictable. this was co-written by "lost" writer damon lindelof afterall. can we really be that shocked that it's written at a comic book kindergarten level? i was at least impressed that he knew how to raise the stakes a little in this one.

i think the spock cameos have got to stop now. it was fine in the first film as a "passing of the torch" but nimoy looks old and sounds tired, and he just isn't needed.

overall it is a very fun experience and i still enjoyed it. pine and quinto are sensational playing the major roles, and i was very impressed with benedict cumberbatch's performance as the "villain" (who i suspect will be brought back in a future film).

out of

Based on disappointing box office,this might be it for Star Trek.

http://www.deadline.com/2013/05/star-tr ... -and-imax/

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

So you felt that Khan was a well-developed character in the movie? A lot of potential that was flushed down the toilet IMHO.

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they weren't trying to develop the character; that was clear by making him a spoiler and giving the plot a twist.

this wasn't about the villain as much as it was about the relationship between spock and kirk. i think they have fleshed that out enough to where...in subsequent films, hopefully they do give more time to develop the villains. or some of the other characters. and i think there is a plan to bring back khan the way they did from the series to the films because they did leave it open.

they may have done themselves a disservice by bringing khan into the mix so quickly. he's too iconic a villain to trot out as a mere plot twist. i did like the actor's performance of the character but there was so much going on and so many climaxes that it was "by design" that khan's story was going to be somewhat secondary to everything else.

i hope there are more films in this franchise because that cast is damn strong.

Urban was great in Judge Dredd

Went to see it. I am torn in that as a movie without the background not bad. But Gene is spinning in his grave over this. Looks good and nice effects but Trek was never about that it was about the story and giving us characters to love and care about. So for I do not see that coming from Abrams. As usual for him the story is secondary to the flash.
I like the cast but they are just not given a script that makes us care about them like TOS,TNG or DS9.
Like most the Spock Prime scene was total garbage.
I also will state that these where the worst uniforms ever. Those dress uniforms remind me of Starship troopers/Nazi crap.
Khan having Jesus blood almost made me throw shit at the screen. I mean if you can make a serum of it boom,you got something that makes Project Genesis look like baby steps. I mean no more death or disease. Hell you would have an indestructible army. Roll over the Klingons,Romulans and Cardasians and you would have Zero casualties.
By the way the box office is going Abrams might have done the unthinkable,killed Star Trek.
And anyone who had a problem with Dr Marcus in Bra and Panties can go fuck off.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

well, he's admitted he doesn't give a flying fuck what ST fans think. so if this movie doesn't prove to be a massive hit, he may be eating those words.

i can't say i'd feel sorry for the guy if he fails. this is the same guy who wrote "regarding henry". and the soundtrack to "night beast". and abandoned "lost" just when it was in need of a narrative arc. and...

well, whatever. i enjoyed the movie but certainly it could've done a better job with some aspects. all of them revolving around story structure and logic.

and i don't get the hubub about the skivvies thing either. she was hot. it lasted two seconds on screen. am i missing something there? what's the big deal?

Probably just your basic (reasonable) complaint that a scene was shoehorned in for no other reason than seeing a woman half naked. Ol' pervert Gene would have certainly approved though. Another Bechdel test failing movie.

robocop fucking killed it as the admiral.... peter weller brings some gravitas to teh scenes that pine and quinto couldn't dream of in their weirdly homoerotic banter. hell even benedict cumberbatch had to give kirk a couple of "i would" looks throughout the movie BUT HEY WE'RE MODERN WE'VE EVEN SHOEHORNED IN PRE-DATA ANDROIDS ALONG WITH WEIRD SPECIES NOT NECESSARILY LIMITED TO OVERWEIGHT BLACK WOMEN WITH SHAVED HEADS AND PETITE WHITE GIRLS WITH BLEACHED PIXIE HAIRCUTS.

even tho i knew it was coming, and i'm glad my brother didn't..... when the whole thing truly lived up to the "mirror" universe re: the classic scenes reportrayed via the mirror and the classic lines were... yeah just.... my little brother tapped me on the shoulder like "oh no they're not going to.... the glass" and i'm like "just sit back relax and strap it down"

he literally cried with laughter after that scene ended. you know how it ends... i dont want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't seen it, but some things are best left for zap brannigan to bellow, you know?

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oh and btw, i swear to god i spotted robin quivers as the latchkey guarding john harrison / cumberbatch in the brig. anyone else?

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