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This is the product of a weeks worth of writers that are alleged to be funny/creative/witty???

I know from past years and stories the guys who do SNL Update are a major part of that writing, which is usually solid.

The Jay Z story was good...in case you missed it

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/the-jay-z-story/2844011?onid=148621#vc148621=1

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This is the product of a weeks worth of writers that are alleged to be funny/creative/witty???


I have felt this way for quite some time. I watch out of habit,I guess. JK Simmons was pretty good but that's not a surprise.

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i dont know how anyone watches that shit. the reason snl was funny in the 70s/80s/90s was because the stars of the show were drug addicts. now you got a bunch of soda pop drinkin momma boys running around on camera telling long winded jokes with weak punchlines. its not funny.

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It's been better this year IMO than in the last 5 years . I hated Fey and Meyer's writing. Keenan still needs to go away....dude has been there 5 years longer than anyone and 10 years longer than most everyone. He is the same guy with a different costume on in every skit. Moynihan could be the focal point of every skit and it would be awesome. The show should continue to get better over the next few years.

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Then you see about 100 people on stage celebrating the fact that they endured the week of hardship!

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Then you see about 100 people on stage celebrating the fact that they endured the week of hardship!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZOmjdAFGCU

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SCTV was great. They once mocked SNL's "group goodbyes" but I couldn't find that on youtube.

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i dont know how anyone watches that shit. the reason snl was funny in the 70s/80s/90s was because the stars of the show were drug addicts. now you got a bunch of soda pop drinkin momma boys running around on camera telling long winded jokes with weak punchlines. its not funny.

Remember hearing about (because god knows none of us watched it) the new Weekend Update anchor who started off by thanking everyone for the chance to do Weekend Update and how much it meant to him? Ugh. From Dennis Miller and Norm MacDonald to this.

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SCTV was great. They once mocked SNL's "group goodbyes" but I couldn't find that on youtube.


Agreed.


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Some of the performers are really talented, but the writing has been dogshit for a couple of years now.

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Curious Hair wrote:
IkeSouth wrote:
i dont know how anyone watches that shit. the reason snl was funny in the 70s/80s/90s was because the stars of the show were drug addicts. now you got a bunch of soda pop drinkin momma boys running around on camera telling long winded jokes with weak punchlines. its not funny.

Remember hearing about (because god knows none of us watched it) the new Weekend Update anchor who started off by thanking everyone for the chance to do Weekend Update and how much it meant to him? Ugh. From Dennis Miller and Norm MacDonald to this.


Something tells me a younger generation enjoys seeing Mr Smiley do that update. Jury still out on Mike Che. Thought the chick did a good job, I dig her overall all. Chicago chick!

when I heard the stories about how Tina Fey tried out and became head writer in 3 years, kinda shows Loren Stern sucks the big one these days. Although they have tons of other people working for them, he makes all the final calls. Reminds me of a Rod Zimmerman

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Lorne Michaels, you mean?

I just watched a Colin Jost/Michael Che Weekend Update. Boy, this delivery is wooden. Both of them. Was it always this bad?

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Dave In Champaign wrote:
Some of the performers are really talented, but the writing has been dogshit for a couple of years now.


Colin Jost: Head Writer (and WU anchor).

'Nuff said.

FWIW, I really liked the "lost Casablanca" sketch, only because my fave lesbian Kate McKinnon was brilliant as always.

Again, they need to cut the cutesy/snarky Weekend Update anchor bit and do a change-of-pace deadpan single-anchor.

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Curious Hair wrote:
Lorne Michaels, you mean?

I just watched a Colin Jost/Michael Che Weekend Update. Boy, this delivery is wooden. Both of them. Was it always this bad?


Not since the brutally awful (and perpetually overrated) Colin Quinn was in the seat back in the day.

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Dave In Champaign wrote:
Some of the performers are really talented, but the writing has been dogshit for a couple of years now.


Colin Jost: Head Writer (and WU anchor).

'Nuff said.

FWIW, I really liked the "lost Casablanca" sketch, only because my fave lesbian Kate McKinnon was brilliant as always.

Again, they need to cut the cutesy/snarky Weekend Update anchor bit and do a change-of-pace deadpan single-anchor.


Kate McKinnon is amazing. Jost is awful. I can't believe I'm saying this, because Seth Meyers is absolutely the worst, but I kinda miss Seth Meyers.

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They get all these guys doing bad Norm MacDonald impersonations with the over the top irony jokes. I enjoyed Norm.

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I don't mind Colin Jost, but he isn't "good."

Kate McKinnon is the best on the show right now. Taran Killam is pretty good. Pete Davidson is funny Cecily Strong and Beck Bennett are okay. The rest...you can have em.

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VH1 classic is doing a nonstop SNL marathon all week, showing every show back to 1975.

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VH1 classic is doing a nonstop SNL marathon all week, showing every show back to 1975.

An opportunity to confirm that Saturday Night Live never really lost its way, it just generally sucked outside of the first season and the late '80s-early '90s renaissance. Might as well partition off the latter and call it a different show, like Phil Hartman's Place, and distinguish it from the rest of the dreck.

And yeah, this Colin Jost, I find myself saying it more and more with comedians: less edge than a butter knife.

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eh, Comedy Central killed SNL. Prior to Comedy Central, the best comedians and writers had little choice but to end up on and/or writing for SNL.

Comedy Central comes along in the 1990's and quickly changes all that, esp once the Daily Show ramps up in the late 1990's.

HBO's trio of comedy shows in the mid-to-late 1990s-- Larry Sanders show and Mr Show and Tenacious D--further eroded SNL's grip on the comedy pipeline.

Imagine Dave Chappelle had to go to SNL instead of getting his own show on CC.


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Mr. Show, definitely, but Larry Sanders? I don't think they were stealing sketch writers, were they?

The proliferation of news comedy certainly killed Weekend Update, though. With the Daily Show, Colbert Report, and Last Week Tonight, what point is there for a shorter version that doesn't do anything better than those shows?

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Larry Sanders always had SNL caliber talent on screen, Dave Chappelle, Silverman, ex SCTV guys. Jon Stewart was on all the time. Odenkirk got his start on Larry Sanders show playing a Saul Goodman type who was Larry's agent.

A lot of the sketch types from Chicago who would've traditionally been on SNL ended up on Upright Citizens Brigade and even Strangers With Candy (where Colbert first got screen time) on CC in the late 1990's.

And since the existence of the Daily Show/Colbert Report hour, seems like the best writers all end up on those shows. The lock on Emmy awards for comedy writing the CC shows have had for a decade or more bears that out. SNL prolly doesn't even rate nomination anymore.

Beyond news/sketch, a comedian doesn't need either of those to break through nowadays going back to the 1990's, thanks to CC. Mitch Hedberg, to the extent he had any success, was thanks to his CC special. Same for a lot of comedians today, Anthony Jeselnik, Hannibal Buress, and on and on. Heck, Jeselnik and Whitney Cummings kinda got famous from CC's roasts alone.

Comedy Central ate a lot more of SNL's lunch than just "weekend update".


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Odenkirk started with SNL, I thought. I saw him make a cameo in Bad Idea Jeans during this morning's trip down an SNL rabbit hole.

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Dunno, but Odenkirk weighs in on the evergreen CSFMB debate of City vs Burbs:


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Dunno, but Odenkirk weighs in on the evergreen CSFMB debate of City vs Burbs:


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Thank your lucky stars he didn't grow up in Cultural Mecca and be satisfied with that undeniable excitement. I don't want to imagine a world without Cock Ring Warehouse.

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Larry Sanders always had SNL caliber talent on screen, Dave Chappelle, Silverman, ex SCTV guys. Jon Stewart was on all the time. Odenkirk got his start on Larry Sanders show playing a Saul Goodman type who was Larry's agent.

A lot of the sketch types from Chicago who would've traditionally been on SNL ended up on Upright Citizens Brigade and even Strangers With Candy (where Colbert first got screen time) on CC in the late 1990's.

And since the existence of the Daily Show/Colbert Report hour, seems like the best writers all end up on those shows. The lock on Emmy awards for comedy writing the CC shows have had for a decade or more bears that out. SNL prolly doesn't even rate nomination anymore.

Beyond news/sketch, a comedian doesn't need either of those to break through nowadays going back to the 1990's, thanks to CC. Mitch Hedberg, to the extent he had any success, was thanks to his CC special. Same for a lot of comedians today, Anthony Jeselnik, Hannibal Buress, and on and on. Heck, Jeselnik and Whitney Cummings kinda got famous from CC's roasts alone.

Comedy Central ate a lot more of SNL's lunch than just "weekend update".


Netflix is running with this too. They are putting out more comedy specials than anyone now. Christ Bill Burrs last one was insanely good. CC released Ari Shafie's 2 weeks ago and I haven't seen it yet but I am excited to.


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SNL comes and goes in terms of talent and quality. Amy Poehler and Tina Fey were very good. Outside of "What's Up With That?" not much I can recall in recent memory.

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