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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 4:55 pm 
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Any Lost Fans out there?

The season finale will go down like this:

The finale is full of action, a few deaths -- and a huge twist.

First, the deaths. A bunch of Others get killed when they try to raid the camp. This includes Friendly, who Sawyer shoots in cold blood -- and also the other new tough guy Other (I think his name is Price) who gets run over by Hurley in the van.

And Charlie FINALLY dies. Thank god. I've always thought he was one of the weaker characters and his death has been threated in so many episodes its about time it finally happened. He unblocks the jamming signal in the underwater station but drowns when Mikhail uses a grenade to blow it up, killing them both. It's a cool death for Charlie. Maybe cooler than he deserves.

Another big moment is when an old favorite of the show returns. Locke is just about to kill himself in the Dharma grave pit that he fell into after Ben shot him when he hears a voice telling him not to. He looks up to see...WALT!! Walt helps him out of the pit and then disappears. No sign of Michael, and there's no explanation about where Walt has been or what happened to him or Michael. Locke then makes it to the Radio Tower -- and gets there in time to kill Naomi just before she makes the rescue call. He throws a knife straight into her back.

Jack can't understand what Locke is doing and tells him that he'll have to shoot him to stop him from making the call himself. Locke threatens to kill Jack, but then backs down.

Jack makes the rescue call -- and someone on the other end answers. The story on the island ends with help on the way. Or maybe not. Ben has told Jack that Naomi and her people aren't who they say they are -- and just before he dies, Charlie sees a transmission in the underwater hatch from Desmond's Penny -- who, contrary to what Naomi has said, denies that she knows Naomi at all!!

But the HUGE TWIST of the episode -- in fact, probably the huge twist of the entire series -- happens in the flashback.

They start by showing that Jack is totally [censored] up. He's popping pills and suicidal. The first flashback shows him about to kill himself by jumping off a bridge -- only a car accident nearby causes him to stop, and instead of killing himself he fins himself helping the accident victims. But he keeps spiraling. He sees his ex-wife at the hospital -- she's pregnant with another man's child. He goes to a funeral of a person that we never discover, but whoever it is, his (or her) death rocks Jack hard.
He steals drugs from the hospital and is caught by the new doctor in charge. And all the time, he's constantly on the phone desperately trying to contact somebody.

And the last scene shows us who...he goes to meet the mystery person, and it's the last person on earth we would think...it's KATE! And it's now that we realize that for the first time in Lost history, we haven't been watching a flashback. We've been watching a FLASH-FORWARD! Yep, that's right. THEY ACTUALLY SHOW THAT JACK AND KATE MAKE IT OFF THE ISLAND. For some reason, this has been the cause of Jack's spiral. He tells Kate they have to go back to the island. She refuses and drives away.

The show finishes with Jack screaming "We have to go back!!" It's a bold move by the writer's no doubt, but I'm not sure if it will pay off entirely. It raises many other questions -- how did they get off the island, did anyone else get off the island, who stayed behind -- but on a show that has been all about our heroes trying to get back home, its kind of disappointing to know that Jack and Kate actually return to the mainland and that they could stay there if they want.

CHOMP ON THAT PREDICTION MOTHER FUCKERS!!


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The "she" character in The Crying Game is a "he".

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The "she" character in The Crying Game is a "he".

When that movie came out, I was only 12, and it was the first time I can remember there being some big "secret" in a movie; that pissed me off, because I found it irritating that I had to see their stupid movie to know the "secret." My sister saw the movie at some point, and she thought she'd have a good time teasing me with the fact that she new the secret. So I posed a guess: "a girl in it is really a guy."

Great "secret." :roll:

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My point wasn't that I used Sherlock Holmes-like deductive skills; my point was that the "secret" was so obvious a 12-year-old could figure it out in one guess.

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So how are my spoilers so far? DEAD FUCKIN' ON, that's how.


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But the HUGE TWIST of the episode -- in fact, probably the huge twist of the entire series -- happens in the flashback.

CHOMP ON THAT PREDICTION MOTHER FUCKERS!!


I didn't realize that it was supposed to be a flash forward while I was watching it--but it still doesn't really add up to me. When he showed the prescription from his father--wouldn't they know by then that his father has been dead? And wouldn't there be some reference to him surviving the plane crash?

You sure it wasn't meant to fuck with the past in that...maybe he and Kate were together all along, and he's tried to block that out?

I have no idea. I thought it was a bait-and-switch that was unnecessary. The episode was fine before then--in fact I was thinking to myself how great the episode was. I hated seeing Charlie die but after all the excessive build up I knew it was going to happen. I don't agree that he was a weak character--no weaker than Claire and at least less predictable than Kate/Sawyer/Jack who are all cookie cutter characters for the most part.

So I guess they've got an off season to make more stuff up as they go along...maybe they will one day connect the dots. I can't wait till everything is out on DVD. I think the plot holes and inconsistencies would be fun to track down one by one.

and it had so much potential...


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Thanks for your opinion T-bagger.


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--but it still doesn't really add up to me. When he showed the prescription from his father--wouldn't they know by then that his father has been dead?


Not to turn this into a Lost website, but....

That's the strange part about it. His father is alive for some reason. He makes reference to him several times in his flash-forward. Even telling the new head of surgery to go upstairs and see how drunk his father is.

I have now idea what is going on....

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Jack is delusional, he THINKS his old man is alive, and probably forged his signature on the prescription earlier.

The part that makes no sense is how much Walt has grown up in '60-90 days' on the island. That's some quick puberty.


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Supposedly Walt hasn't even been on the island. Michael and him were allowed to leave in last year's season finale. Maybe people age slower on the island (an example would be the "Other" who keeps questioning Ben...that guy hasn't aged a day since they showed him in Ben's flashback).

By the way, am I the only who thinks Jack plays a horribly cliche depressed guy?


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Not to turn this into a Lost website, but....

That's the strange part about it. His father is alive for some reason. He makes reference to him several times in his flash-forward. Even telling the new head of surgery to go upstairs and see how drunk his father is.

I have now idea what is going on....


that's why it doesn't add up that it'd be a flash forward. it was a bait-and-switch that doesn't work in my eyes. and it's something MORE they're tinkering with that didn't need tinkering.

they have enough open holes to fill--they don't need to keep creating more convoluted ones.

Finji--most depressed people are cliche. :wink:


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Here's the article Jack was reading, so other than "it's a guy" you don't know too much:

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I guess it won't allow me to post an image, here's the link:

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I think it's Locke who's in the coffin. Good thing we only have to wait 8 months to find out for sure.


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Possibly a dream sequence? I know they said the island isn't a dream, but is this glimpse of the future possibly not real?

I think Jack's father is indeed alive judging from some of the conversations that were going on.

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I think the show needed to do this. They will now show what happened to everyone after they got off the island. At this point, they don't have 48 more shows worth of flashbacks. I think the next season will be about them getting rescued(slowly) and flash forwards to what happens to them. The final two seasons will build up to them ultimately returning to the island and finishing the test that they are all being put through.

I think it is great that they are moving forward and starting to show that they have a plan. They wouldn't make such a huge twist of them getting of the island unless they actually know how they are going to do it.

They messed up the second season and seemed to be making it up as they went along, but they did actually answer some of the major questions in the third season. I almost quit on Lost in the second season but I loved the third season.

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thinking more about it, maybe it does work, i don't know. it's been hard putting my trust in the show after the last year and a half...maybe it will work.


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Who will win the Super Bowl?
How is Boeing stock going to do with the roll out of the 787?
When will McDonald's bring back the McRib?
Will I ever go on another date?
Who was in the coffin? (my guess Sawyer)

and finally,
How will Salisbury next make an ass of himself?


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don't do it--join me and my crusade against the evil empire! mcdonald's = :evil: sic semper tyranus! don't fall to the McRib! i was once like you, weak--but now I'm strong, and I want you to be strong as well, dave in naperville.


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Who will win the Super Bowl? New England

How is Boeing stock going to do with the roll out of the 787? Above average

When will McDonald's bring back the McRib? October '07

Will I ever go on another date? Yes, if your left hand counts

Who was in the coffin? (my guess Sawyer) Sawyer indeed

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How will Salisbury next make an ass of himself? When he can't figure out how to fill out his unemployment paperwork now that Keyshawn and Emmitt Smith have made him expendable at Bristol.


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