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Yak with the postgame Rico vs. Big T blow-up was great.

Hahn needs to sign Rico to a tryout as he might be a good bullpen option with that arm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdGwnWV-PjA



After BigCat cut out, it became millennials struggling to form complete thoughts/sentences...painful, brutal to watch. Is Barstool's entire success premised on PMT, Portnoy's pizza reviews and t-shirt sales at this point? McAfee still with barstool? Looks like they have a lot of dead-weight at barstool. Probably not gonna get much better with Portnoy being an absentee manager. Dave does have an eye/ear for podcast talent. PMT, McAfee, the Call Daddy girls used to be popular, i think that's basically dead now.

The only barstool pods in the top 300 besides PMT (#49) are the Million Dollaz guys (193) and the hockey pod Spittin Chiclets (218).


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Is that the old Mother Hubbard's location?

I wish them well as good sports talk content is a good thing for listeners and they have a local component.

It just seems that their business is scattered. How does a sports bar make you better at podcasting?

I'll probably give it a try sometime when its warmer and I can make the walk without jack frost nipping at my 'nads. It seems like an odd location. You may be able to get the one drink after work crowd but most of the successful bars around there turn into clubs, which seems antithetical to what I see of Barstool consumers. This would have played better in Wrigleyville, as they might have been the unicorn in the neighborhood that actually gets people into their bars during the off season. If it were me, I would have bought a building, had the ground floor sports bar and the upper floor Barstool Chicago home. Put a little studio in the bar.

This seems to me like a resteraunteur told them he'd like to start a bar with them, using their name and making them appear, kind of like Ditka did with his restaurants.

It's a fair question on what does a bar do for a company's media content. This bar is just the first one of five that are planned at this time in Chicago and Philly. If they are successful, it will roll out in other cities as well. I believe their other Chicago location is going to be in Wrigleyville, which is also where their office is.

But, again, what does that have to do with content? Here's what it does. It gives the company another stream of revenue that cannot be threatened by advertiser boycotts which allows their personalities to be themselves and try to make jokes in today's environment where it seems everyone else in media is too worried about offending someone with a joke that doesn't land the right way.

They still have a good advertiser base and despite Business Insider trying to bully advertisers away, not a single one left after the BI piece that ended up getting torn apart. However, Barstool can't always expect that to happen so they need to make sure they have other streams as a security fallback so they can continue as they are.

I know it seems weird for me to be rooting for stuff of their brand outside of the content, but there is a reason for it. It's what gives them the ability to be who they are and not be pressured into becoming something they are not as it seems most other media has become. Look no further than Dan Bernstein. I'd bet his metamorphosis was driven more by being marketable to advertisers than his own personal beliefs. He pretty much admitted as much on Twitter a few months ago to one of the guys here when asked about it. I wish I could remember who he was replying to so I could pull that Tweet up.


It's an interesting take, kind of like Tesla fueling Musk's desire to colonize Mars.

Didn't they get sold for hundreds of millions of dollars?

More power to them if they can pull it off. I always thought North missed the boat by not opening another hot dog stand when he was at the height of his popularity, entirely run by his family and people. It does have the feel of a money grab, like Rush Limbaugh selling his excellence in radio chachkis.

My guess is, like I said before, the structure is that this is THE BARSTOOL BAR...owned and operated by the Levy Brothers (or some entertainment group). Barstool is putting up nothing. It is lending its name and appearances/promotion in exchange for a fee. Those concepts work when you have a guy like Ditka who actually is into it and the product is good. The opposite was McMahon's places where the food was mediocre and Jim was disinterested. So, this probably requires whoever are their Chicago people to be in there regularly and the big names of Barstool to be there at least monthly. That takes a lot of work.

In the end, this is probably like the pop up bar trend that is popular right now. Some entrepeneur is renting space on the cheap and throwing something together to ride a short term trend. There are a few places in wrigleyville that become a christmas bar, then an irish bar around st. pats, then a sports bar when the season starts, then a halloween bar, etc. The concept seems to work and it is interesting.


Me and the boys are headed out to Barstool River North. High Noon is sponsoring a promotion where you get to whip cans of hard seltzer at a cardboard cut out of an obese fellow from Tennessee.

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no hats or jerseys at barstool's bar? Strip club dress code


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no hats or jerseys at barstool's bar? Strip club dress code

Blame White Sox Dave for that dress code although Portnoy pretty much says it's not something they plan on actually enforcing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJrP18v7-JQ

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SpiralStairs wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Is that the old Mother Hubbard's location?

I wish them well as good sports talk content is a good thing for listeners and they have a local component.

It just seems that their business is scattered. How does a sports bar make you better at podcasting?

I'll probably give it a try sometime when its warmer and I can make the walk without jack frost nipping at my 'nads. It seems like an odd location. You may be able to get the one drink after work crowd but most of the successful bars around there turn into clubs, which seems antithetical to what I see of Barstool consumers. This would have played better in Wrigleyville, as they might have been the unicorn in the neighborhood that actually gets people into their bars during the off season. If it were me, I would have bought a building, had the ground floor sports bar and the upper floor Barstool Chicago home. Put a little studio in the bar.

This seems to me like a resteraunteur told them he'd like to start a bar with them, using their name and making them appear, kind of like Ditka did with his restaurants.

It's a fair question on what does a bar do for a company's media content. This bar is just the first one of five that are planned at this time in Chicago and Philly. If they are successful, it will roll out in other cities as well. I believe their other Chicago location is going to be in Wrigleyville, which is also where their office is.

But, again, what does that have to do with content? Here's what it does. It gives the company another stream of revenue that cannot be threatened by advertiser boycotts which allows their personalities to be themselves and try to make jokes in today's environment where it seems everyone else in media is too worried about offending someone with a joke that doesn't land the right way.

They still have a good advertiser base and despite Business Insider trying to bully advertisers away, not a single one left after the BI piece that ended up getting torn apart. However, Barstool can't always expect that to happen so they need to make sure they have other streams as a security fallback so they can continue as they are.

I know it seems weird for me to be rooting for stuff of their brand outside of the content, but there is a reason for it. It's what gives them the ability to be who they are and not be pressured into becoming something they are not as it seems most other media has become. Look no further than Dan Bernstein. I'd bet his metamorphosis was driven more by being marketable to advertisers than his own personal beliefs. He pretty much admitted as much on Twitter a few months ago to one of the guys here when asked about it. I wish I could remember who he was replying to so I could pull that Tweet up.


It's an interesting take, kind of like Tesla fueling Musk's desire to colonize Mars.

Didn't they get sold for hundreds of millions of dollars?

More power to them if they can pull it off. I always thought North missed the boat by not opening another hot dog stand when he was at the height of his popularity, entirely run by his family and people. It does have the feel of a money grab, like Rush Limbaugh selling his excellence in radio chachkis.

My guess is, like I said before, the structure is that this is THE BARSTOOL BAR...owned and operated by the Levy Brothers (or some entertainment group). Barstool is putting up nothing. It is lending its name and appearances/promotion in exchange for a fee. Those concepts work when you have a guy like Ditka who actually is into it and the product is good. The opposite was McMahon's places where the food was mediocre and Jim was disinterested. So, this probably requires whoever are their Chicago people to be in there regularly and the big names of Barstool to be there at least monthly. That takes a lot of work.

In the end, this is probably like the pop up bar trend that is popular right now. Some entrepeneur is renting space on the cheap and throwing something together to ride a short term trend. There are a few places in wrigleyville that become a christmas bar, then an irish bar around st. pats, then a sports bar when the season starts, then a halloween bar, etc. The concept seems to work and it is interesting.


Me and the boys are headed out to Barstool River North. High Noon is sponsoring a promotion where you get to whip cans of hard seltzer at a cardboard cut out of an obese fellow from Tennessee.
Credit to Big T for those reflexes. That was going to break an nose if he didn't dodge it. High Noon is milking every dollar of that sponsorship.






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Seems like the best case scenario for the bar is it ends up being WWF New York and losing millions of dollars.


The old ESPN Zones were actually fun and lasted longer than most other places of the type do. I'm sure I'll make fun of them when this place tanks and closes, but they all do sooner rather than later so it wouldn't be all on them, other than opening it in the first place.


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Seems like the best case scenario for the bar is it ends up being WWF New York and losing millions of dollars.


The old ESPN Zones were actually fun and lasted longer than most other places of the type do. I'm sure I'll make fun of them when this place tanks and closes, but they all do sooner rather than later so it wouldn't be all on them, other than opening it in the first place.


I forgot about the ESPN Zones.

That's a way better comp.

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Somebody unafraid of being assaulted really needs to tell Olin to stop being such a bitch.

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barstool is a gambling company.... offer up a line on how long this bar keeps the barstool branding... 24 months seem like a fair o/u line?


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barstool is a gambling company.... offer up a line on how long this bar keeps the barstool branding... 24 months seem like a fair o/u line?

:lol: :lol: true.

I'm going to guess ESPN had deeper pockets bankrolling the ESPNZones locations.

24 months? I'll take the under.

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we should have a board outing there

I bet they do great numbers for St. Patricks Day, the Tournament and if a deep Bulls playoff run. Maybe you get the rubes in once tourist season starts.

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Olin's going to get to the point that he moves from sympathetic to a whiner if he keeps this up.

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Olin's going to get to the point that he moves from sympathetic to a whiner if he keeps this up.


He's already there.

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Kreutz was a shithead when he was with the Bears. Wasn't he always hazing players and media members? Even this dumbass franchise knows well enough to send him away.

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I am listening to the podcast right now. If the Bears hated Olin so much, then why him any job?

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I am listening to the podcast right now. If the Bears hated Olin so much, then why him any job?

If Olin Kreutz was really a problem, would he be the only 4x winner of the Brian Piccolo Award? An award that is described as being given to a player(and I'm copying from the Bears website here) who best exemplifies the courage, loyalty, teamwork, dedication and sense of humor of the late Bears running back.

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I am listening to the podcast right now. If the Bears hated Olin so much, then why him any job?

If Olin Kreutz was really a problem, would he be the only 4x winner of the Brian Piccolo Award? An award that is described as being given to a player(and I'm copying from the Bears website here) who best exemplifies the courage, loyalty, teamwork, dedication and sense of humor of the late Bears running back.


Olin would have fit right in with the 85 Bears. It's a little weird to hear so many people that loved that team and its collection of miscreants criticizing Olin because he didn't succumb to the hegemonic androgyny of contemporary sports culture.

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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
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I am listening to the podcast right now. If the Bears hated Olin so much, then why him any job?

If Olin Kreutz was really a problem, would he be the only 4x winner of the Brian Piccolo Award? An award that is described as being given to a player(and I'm copying from the Bears website here) who best exemplifies the courage, loyalty, teamwork, dedication and sense of humor of the late Bears running back.


Olin would have fit right in with the 85 Bears. It's a little weird to hear so many people that loved that team and its collection of miscreants criticizing Olin because he didn't succumb to the hegemonic androgyny of contemporary sports culture.

My criticism is that he’s been extremely thin skinned. He wanted to take a shot at the Bears without a response. When that response came he got all in his feelings and intimated he’d fight a 70yr old man.

His desire for a one sided fight seems a little bitch adjacent.

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Tall Midget wrote:
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denisdman wrote:
I am listening to the podcast right now. If the Bears hated Olin so much, then why him any job?

If Olin Kreutz was really a problem, would he be the only 4x winner of the Brian Piccolo Award? An award that is described as being given to a player(and I'm copying from the Bears website here) who best exemplifies the courage, loyalty, teamwork, dedication and sense of humor of the late Bears running back.


Olin would have fit right in with the 85 Bears. It's a little weird to hear so many people that loved that team and its collection of miscreants criticizing Olin because he didn't succumb to the hegemonic androgyny of contemporary sports culture.

My criticism is that he’s been extremely thin skinned. He wanted to take a shot at the Bears without a response. When that response came he got all in his feelings and intimated he’d fight a 70yr old man.

His desire for a one sided fight seems a little patriot adjacent.


His response certainly wasn't great. He didn't like being called a liar by a guy who he says is lying. A fight to settle the dispute between the two might not be a bad idea.

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Tall Midget wrote:
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Tall Midget wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
denisdman wrote:
I am listening to the podcast right now. If the Bears hated Olin so much, then why him any job?

If Olin Kreutz was really a problem, would he be the only 4x winner of the Brian Piccolo Award? An award that is described as being given to a player(and I'm copying from the Bears website here) who best exemplifies the courage, loyalty, teamwork, dedication and sense of humor of the late Bears running back.


Olin would have fit right in with the 85 Bears. It's a little weird to hear so many people that loved that team and its collection of miscreants criticizing Olin because he didn't succumb to the hegemonic androgyny of contemporary sports culture.

My criticism is that he’s been extremely thin skinned. He wanted to take a shot at the Bears without a response. When that response came he got all in his feelings and intimated he’d fight a 70yr old man.

His desire for a one sided fight seems a little patriot adjacent.


His response certainly wasn't great. He didn't like being called a liar by a guy who he says is lying. A fight to settle the dispute between the two might not be a bad idea.


Neither response was good.

Olin himself said that when he reached out to Pace for confirmation of his story, that Pace told him there was a misunderstanding in his offer to him.

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Barstool, where you kill an animal for content, name it after a co-worker, and butcher it in the office kitchen. :lol:


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There seems to be a lot of wasted space in that office

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There seems to be a lot of wasted space in that office


Starting with most of the employees.

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PENN with good results in Q4

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/penn-nat ... 00227.html

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Barstool Sports, Inc. experienced another record year from both an audience and financial standpoint as it continues to redefine the digital media landscape. Barstool’s social media reach across all accounts and platforms (including Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook and YouTube) now exceeds 144 million, representing a year-over-year increase of 25%. Meanwhile, Barstool Sports, Inc. continues to drive strong revenue growth across all categories, including new verticals such as the One Bite frozen pizza and "Would" line of men’s grooming products. In addition, the first Barstool-branded sports bar opened in the River North area of Chicago this January to strong initial demand. "We look forward to supplementing our omni-channel strategy with additional Barstool Sports bars in the future, including the upcoming opening of a second location in Philadelphia. Both locations will provide us with an opportunity to grow our database outside of the traditional channels," said Mr. Snowden.


Good to see that no matter how hard they try to cancel Barstool, the company keeps growing.

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Ogie it was a huge earnings miss. They were expected to earn $0.52/share and they posted $0.26. They noted a “frenzied competitive environment”, which drove up their cost side. They beat on revenues.

They further noted they are buying out the remainder of Barstool in 2023.

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Ogie it was a huge earnings miss. They were expected to earn $0.52/share and they posted $0.26. They noted a “frenzied competitive environment”, which drove up their cost side. They beat on revenues.

They further noted they are buying out the remainder of Barstool in 2023.


Not nearly enough self-proclaimed "stoolies" buying Glenneth Balls' Long Island Sliders. Very sick!

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