Moss to Pats for a 4th round pick . I wish the Bears would of pulled the trigger.

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Randy Moss playing for the Hoodie? Wow. Only thing funnier than that is the following from the worldwide leader's website:

"The Brady Quinn drama took hours to play out Saturday, but the Pats and Packers got right to work Sunday. According to sources, the teams have agreed in principle on a deal that would send Randy Moss to New England."

I'm still waiting to hear what the Packers were so busy doing.

a fourth rounder, wow. It would have been nice to have him on the outside so that berrian and olsen could play the inside. You could have counted on him for the two games against Minnesota for the FU factor alone. How long before the golden boy asks randy to double date with Giselles sister?

Pats were as good as any team in the NFL at the end of last year. They had Indy down in Indy and let it slip away. I expect Watson to emerge even more next year with all the talent at WR creating holes in the middle. The only question is whether Maroney is healty.

That is a great move by New England. Randy Moss is going to dominate next year.

The other teams in the AFC got worse, and New England got much better.

Indianapolis lost a lot of players.
San Diego hired a coach who is worse than the one they had.

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isnt rexs buddy asante samuel pulling a briggs and holding out?

"At first I thought it was going well, but it's not. We have a difference of opinion in my value. They think I'm worth one price and the other teams think I'm worth a lot more. If a long-term deal can't be done at fair numbers for me and New England, then I want to be traded." Samuel, 26, added that if a long-term deal is not consummated with the Patriots, and he is not traded, he would be prepared to hold out for the entire season.

sounds familiar

He's washed up. I agree that the Pats have improved, but this is a minor aspect of that improvement.

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Matt,
Randy Moss still has all the skills needed to be a great WR. The problem is that he had a bunch of losers throwing him the ball. Tom Brady has made average receivers great his whole career. I am scared at what he can do with the most physically gifted one in the league.

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I don't think he does. He doesn't have the breakaway speed he needs to be great anymore. There's a reason Oakland was willing to take a 4th round pick for him.

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I agree Nas, if he can stay healthy he will be a pro bowl player and the Pats should make it to the superbowl.

Oakland fans are angry he left instead of glad he left. If he was truely losing his skills they would be glad he was leaving. Instead they all sound bitter and angry that he gave up on the Raiders.

I tend to agree with Matt in the Crown. Moss is done. Wide receivers on the wrong side of 30 don't just turn it on and off when they want to. If he does do markedly better, it'd be the first time that a WR did so after two markedly down years like this. The Pats are certainly the favorite, but I think that this move has the possiblity to be a big negative.

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The Pats clocked Moss at a workout last week at 4.29 AND A 4.3 40 yard dash . I'm no NFL G.M. but I don't think that's slowing down any .

I tend to agree with Mort and Mel Kiper when they said "Moss just shut it down last year and was not interested in playing for the Raiders and packed it in ". It's pretty shitty when your being paid millions of dollars to throw in the towel but that's what the Raiders knew about Moss going into this.

People are handing the Pats the Vince Lombardi trophy already and Brady has gone about 5 years without being hurt yet . I'm not saying , I'm just saying .

I think Peyton Manning and the Colts will have something to say about that .

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Wonder what Brady does if Moss gets in his face for not throwing to him?

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Moss will be a stud this year. It's the Corey Dillon Effect. Moss knows that Brady and Bellichick have three Super Bowl rings and don't have to prove dick to him. He wanted the opportunity to put up or shut up with a Super Bowl caliber team, well this is it. I'll be shocked if he doesn't get on his knees the first day of training camp and starts suckin Brady off. This Pats team is stacked: Defense is beyond solid, HOF QB, stud up-and-coming running back, HOF coach, kickass receiving corps. This is going to be a scary, scary team.

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In the words of Winston Wolf, let's not start sucking each others popsickles just yet (love that movie!): The Pats have Randy "I'll play when I want to" Moss and Donte "injured reserve" Stallworth at receiver now and a running back that started to show significant signs of slowing down as the season went on. Their best defensive player is pulling a Briggs, only worse (Briggs doesn't have a tattoo on his arm reading "Get Paid"- yet), their middle linebackers are OLD and diminished in skills somewhat rapidly last year, and now the locker room is one two-game losing stretch and three-interception game away from imploding at any given moment. Plus, even if Moss's skills haven't diminished (I think they have- he hasn't had 75 receptions in a season since 2003), does Brady's skill set as a QB optimize his "run down the field and get the jump ball" ability? I agree that the Pats are probably the best team on paper right now, but the difference between them and other teams is not prohibitive.

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They still play 8 road games like everyone else does, and they will probably have injury issues as well. Upsets tend to happen in the NFL, and even though NE looks really good on paper, they are beatable. To me, they look like a 12-4 type club.

12-4, 10-6, 14-2...doesn't matter. NE got better and they should be a solid team next year. how could they not be a top AFC favorite?

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The best part about this trade is that he is not going to the Packers. That would have been a huge target for Favre. This worked out great for the Bears.

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Nonsense. I was hoping he'd bring his team-quitting act to another team in our division.

I can't wait for this to blowup. Last offseason the flavor of the day was Culpepper to the Fins. I said that would turn to shit, and surely enough it did. This will too. Best case scenario, you don't hear much from Moss; worst case scenario, he quits on his third team, causing a distraction (which would be awesome, because frankly, I'm sick of the Pats).

Anyone hear this propaganda on DP, btw? Supposedly, he's running 4.3's for the Pats. Yeah, and I'm running a 4.1. I'll just be like every "expert" in the country now and forget what I've seen the last 2 seasons and go ahead and believe that load of shit.

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They said the same thing about Terrell Owens, who went on to be the best receiver in the league for a season. Randy Moss will be motivated and when he is motivated he will be great.

Randy Moss would have been a cancer on some teams but not the Pats. Corey Dillon was considered a jerk before going to New Orleans.

Mark it down, barring injury, 10+ touchdowns and an all pro selection.

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I sure didn't. Owens is a great receiver; Moss was a great talent. Moss relied exclusively on his speed, and was always an alligator-armer, and a shitty route-runner. He's lost a step, and now what do you have? Mushin Mohammed.


Like Moss? I don't recall Dillon quitting on 2 teams. He was certainly a pain sometimes, but not a team-destroying cancer like Moss. The comparison isn't fair.


Want to make it interesting? I feel mighty confident about this guy being a dog. I had more doubt in my mind about my appraisal of Culpepper, which only proved to be dead-on. It's funny; Moss lost a step, and the result is that these guys are both over-rated.

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Here's some evidence that MITC may be right: http://patriots.bostonherald.com/patriots/view.bg?articleid=1006060&format=text

The Patriots are the best team on paper without Moss, but his addition does very little to enhance my opinion of him. Was he worth a fourth-round pick? Sure. Will he have a great, or even very good, season next year? I really doubt it.

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