It is currently Thu Nov 28, 2024 9:42 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Bye Week Observations
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:41 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
Offense:
Nagy's offense sucks. The best thing that you can say about the offense since December 9th of last season is they don't turn the ball over. In the 9 games since, the Raiders game is the only game that they've turned the ball over multiple times.

The offense is averaging less than 200 yards passing in those games. The Bears don't throw the ball a lot either. Only 2 games with more than 31 pass attempts. They have attempted fewer than 30 passes in 6 of those games. To put things in perspective Mahomes only game with fewer than 30 attempts came on the last game of the season.

The running backs are averaging fewer than 4 yards per carry in the last 9 games. They've only had 1 game where a running back rushed for more than 100 yards. Their leading rusher this season barely has 200 rushing yards. Montgomery is averaging 3.3 ypc and 1/9 of his yards came on 1 carry. It's easily the worst running game the Bears have had in over a decade.

Allen Robinson appears to be the only player who has gotten better since last year. Every other offensive player has regressed. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky looks worst than he has at any point since his rookie season. I don't know how this team wide regression isn't a coaching problem or a scheme problem.

Defense:
Looks just as dominant as last year but they still struggle closing out games.

Where has Floyd been since Green Bay? Is Roquan mentally well? Can Fuller play man?

Special Teams:
They've really improved in most areas since last year.

Pat O'Donnell looks like he's having the best year of his career and Pineiro has been solid.

Paterson is an upgrade but nothing spectacular so far.

Cohen had a breakout game returning punts against the Raiders.

Coaching:
The Bears have been outcoached in all but 2 games this year. Nagy has failed to make adjustments to the league. He says all of the right things but his actions says that he doesn't trust his players. The micromanaging hasn't worked.

Rest of the season:
Unless the offense steps up the Bears will struggle winning more than 4 games the rest of the way.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:51 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri May 25, 2018 8:58 am
Posts: 6307
pizza_Place: Frozen
Way too early for all the Pace, Nagy, Mitch, Bears hate. Though it's a results business. Love to see Mitch, Shaheen and others really step it up and improve.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:12 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:36 pm
Posts: 6715
pizza_Place: Baranabyis
THE GOOD
Adam Shaheen, Taylor Gabriel and Allen Robinson are all much improved. Robinson in particular looks like a Pro Bowl caliber WR. He's using his size way better and making really quick, twitchy moves to get open and adjust to balls mid-flight. He's really tough to cover adequately and would be putting monster numbers if he were in one of the NFL's big passing offense. When you talk about how a guy has just looked there aren't many WR who have displayed the kind of explosiveness and size combination of Robinson this season. Gabriel has put in some work this off-season, his ass and thighs look tight and firm.

I also think Cohen looks better he's just not finding opportunities because bottling him has been a big priority for opposing defenses. His cuts are crisp and while he may have lost just a touch of straight line speed he's doing much less going backwards (with the exception of one or two plays).

Defensively they're all better. Every one of them looks better in this scheme and nobody took the off-season lightly. Been really impressed with Roy Robertson-Harris and Leonard Floyd in particular. Eddie Jackson is really the unquestioned leader now too, he has everything pretty well figured out and QB's treat him with deference that you really never see. Mike Brown is the only safety I've ever seen this good and I'm fairly certain Jackson is playing at a higher level right now than he ever did. Teams just avoid Jackson. Cousins in particular couldn't think straight as he scanned for 39 every play.

Special teams aren't just improved, they look downright good. Big ups to Tabor for getting this sorted.

THE BAD
The offensive line is collapsing. Daniels and Whitehair are two guys I counted on to be outstanding and right now they are just average, which is actually an improvement from how they started the season. Long, Leno Jr. and Massie shouldn't be playing.

The penalties are killing them. This team has killed so many drives with false starts, holds and illegal motions I cant even count it. Had they been playing with the discipline they had last year they'd be 4-1 if not 5-0. The knock-on effect of these penalties has had huge impacts in time of possession and field position. It needs to stop now, but I'm afraid Nagy is too concerned with being a player's coach to hold guys accountable.

The offensive scheme is bunk. Spread is dead. This is a run-first league now unless you have serious aerial talent (and the Bears certainly do not have that) and this shotgun snap zone shit is getting eaten alive. Unlike personnel this is something that can be changed with having to worry about the salary cap or placating anyone. We need more I-formation and under center snaps. Bears have a lot of speed and its time to use it on the ground. Get some guys uncorked. Force teams to overpenetrate and overpursue then unleash Cohen in the screen game. Dont feed me excuses about how the OL isn't allowing this, there's a lot of weak-ass defensive fronts in this league and the Bears should be at least able to work them over for stretches of most games.

I'm very worried about the direction of this season.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:01 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:35 pm
Posts: 10795
Location: Parrish, FL
pizza_Place: 1. Peaquods 2. Aurelios
Matt Nagy is not a good coach and not a good play caller.
Mitch is a bust. He's a game manager at best. He can be serviceable at QB, but he was over-drafted by what appears to be a lot.

Defense is still very very very good and can win games for the team....as long as they're not traveling to fucking London.
9-7 this year if we're lucky.

_________________
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
brick (/brik/) verb
1. block or enclose with a wall of bricks
2. Proper response would be to ask an endless series of follow ups until the person regrets having spoken to you in the first place.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:40 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:26 am
Posts: 14931
pizza_Place: Grazianos
vitoscotti wrote:
Way too early for all the Pace, Nagy, Mitch, Bears hate. Though it's a results business. Love to see Mitch, Shaheen and others really step it up and improve.



As I see it, I think that the season depends on (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky being healthy and released of the shackles he has on him. They have got to get him out of the pocket because the "pocket" does not exist with the shit duo that we have for offensive tackles. This is the ONLY CHANCE that they have to make the play-offs. If (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky stays hurt or they stay in this predictable offense, this is at best an 8-8 or 9-7 team.

_________________
An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:42 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:26 am
Posts: 14931
pizza_Place: Grazianos
wdelaney72 wrote:
Matt Nagy is not a good coach and not a good play caller.
Mitch is a bust. He's a game manager at best. He can be serviceable at QB, but he was over-drafted by what appears to be a lot.

Defense is still very very very good and can win games for the team....as long as they're not traveling to fucking London.
9-7 this year if we're lucky.


Bullcrap. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is a fine young quarterback.

_________________
An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:53 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:08 am
Posts: 227
pizza_Place: Lou Melnati's
My bye week observation:

I love Cohen but Pace (and the other 31 teams in fairness) missed on Matt Brieda BADLY in the '17 Draft.

But what do you expect from a poser who took (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky over Watson?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:25 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:17 am
Posts: 72380
Location: Palatine
pizza_Place: Lou Malnatis
Nas wrote:
Offense:
Nagy's offense sucks. The best thing that you can say about the offense since December 9th of last season is they don't turn the ball over. In the 9 games since, the Raiders game is the only game that they've turned the ball over multiple times.

The offense is averaging less than 200 yards passing in those games. The Bears don't throw the ball a lot either. Only 2 games with more than 31 pass attempts. They have attempted fewer than 30 passes in 6 of those games. To put things in perspective Mahomes only game with fewer than 30 attempts came on the last game of the season.

The running backs are averaging fewer than 4 yards per carry in the last 9 games. They've only had 1 game where a running back rushed for more than 100 yards. Their leading rusher this season barely has 200 rushing yards. Montgomery is averaging 3.3 ypc and 1/9 of his yards came on 1 carry. It's easily the worst running game the Bears have had in over a decade.

Allen Robinson appears to be the only player who has gotten better since last year. Every other offensive player has regressed. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky looks worst than he has at any point since his rookie season. I don't know how this team wide regression isn't a coaching problem or a scheme problem.

Defense:
Looks just as dominant as last year but they still struggle closing out games.

Where has Floyd been since Green Bay? Is Roquan mentally well? Can Fuller play man?

Special Teams:
They've really improved in most areas since last year.

Pat O'Donnell looks like he's having the best year of his career and Pineiro has been solid.

Paterson is an upgrade but nothing spectacular so far.

Cohen had a breakout game returning punts against the Raiders.

Coaching:
The Bears have been outcoached in all but 2 games this year. Nagy has failed to make adjustments to the league. He says all of the right things but his actions says that he doesn't trust his players. The micromanaging hasn't worked.

Rest of the season:
Unless the offense steps up the Bears will struggle winning more than 4 games the rest of the way.

tl,dr: the punter is good, everyone else sucks

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:42 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
FavreFan wrote:
Nas wrote:
Offense:
Nagy's offense sucks. The best thing that you can say about the offense since December 9th of last season is they don't turn the ball over. In the 9 games since, the Raiders game is the only game that they've turned the ball over multiple times.

The offense is averaging less than 200 yards passing in those games. The Bears don't throw the ball a lot either. Only 2 games with more than 31 pass attempts. They have attempted fewer than 30 passes in 6 of those games. To put things in perspective Mahomes only game with fewer than 30 attempts came on the last game of the season.

The running backs are averaging fewer than 4 yards per carry in the last 9 games. They've only had 1 game where a running back rushed for more than 100 yards. Their leading rusher this season barely has 200 rushing yards. Montgomery is averaging 3.3 ypc and 1/9 of his yards came on 1 carry. It's easily the worst running game the Bears have had in over a decade.

Allen Robinson appears to be the only player who has gotten better since last year. Every other offensive player has regressed. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky looks worst than he has at any point since his rookie season. I don't know how this team wide regression isn't a coaching problem or a scheme problem.

Defense:
Looks just as dominant as last year but they still struggle closing out games.

Where has Floyd been since Green Bay? Is Roquan mentally well? Can Fuller play man?

Special Teams:
They've really improved in most areas since last year.

Pat O'Donnell looks like he's having the best year of his career and Pineiro has been solid.

Paterson is an upgrade but nothing spectacular so far.

Cohen had a breakout game returning punts against the Raiders.

Coaching:
The Bears have been outcoached in all but 2 games this year. Nagy has failed to make adjustments to the league. He says all of the right things but his actions says that he doesn't trust his players. The micromanaging hasn't worked.

Rest of the season:
Unless the offense steps up the Bears will struggle winning more than 4 games the rest of the way.

tl,dr: the punter is good, everyone else sucks


So you did read it.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:44 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:17 am
Posts: 72380
Location: Palatine
pizza_Place: Lou Malnatis
I read it so beni doesn't have to

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:57 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:15 pm
Posts: 11485
pizza_Place: Dino's
Quote:
Defense:
Looks just as dominant as last year but they still struggle closing out games

Just as dominant as last week, too

_________________
Sex isn't dirty, sex isn't a crime. It's a loving act between two or more consenting adults.

-Hank Kingsley


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:04 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
Furious Styles wrote:
Quote:
Defense:
Looks just as dominant as last year but they still struggle closing out games

Just as dominant as last week, too


MANY redzone turnovers.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:14 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:15 pm
Posts: 11485
pizza_Place: Dino's
Nas wrote:
Furious Styles wrote:
Quote:
Defense:
Looks just as dominant as last year but they still struggle closing out games

Just as dominant as last week, too


MANY redzone turnovers.

Opportunistic defense, but not dominant.

_________________
Sex isn't dirty, sex isn't a crime. It's a loving act between two or more consenting adults.

-Hank Kingsley


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:21 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:50 am
Posts: 11242
Location: Schaumburg
pizza_Place: Palermo's
FavreFan wrote:
I read it so beni doesn't have to


:lol: :lol:


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:19 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
I feel much better about our team after yesterday.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:22 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm
Posts: 82260
Nas wrote:
I feel much better about our team after yesterday.


yep

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:27 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:17 pm
Posts: 102657
pizza_Place: Vito & Nick's
Antarctica wrote:
THE GOOD
Adam Shaheen
Good? Has he even played this year?

_________________
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It's more fun to be a victim
Caller Bob wrote:
There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 17 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group