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the QB isnt very good, the RB position is weak, and the offensive line while handsomely paid is not that great. combine all that and im not sure any OC is successful with this talent core.

This guy gets it

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The NFC North is putrid they'll get more than four wins. Even the Bears should manage around that number and we are worse than the Lions at nearly every position.


The Bears might get 1 division win. They're going to have a very tough time stopping the run without Goldman, and they're going to have a harder time moving the ball given their offensive personnel and confederacy of dunces coaching staff.


If Nichols stays healthy, I think he will be a good Replacement for Goldman.

Your comment About the coaching staff is legitimate. We really don’t know if these guys are dunces or geniuses


I'm not sure that Nichols is the answer. He excelled in his rookie season because Fangio really understood how to use personnel. Pagano didn't show that knack last year, and I'm not sure Nichols is better than a situational player. I guess we'll find out.

As for the offensive coaching staff goes, it seems very strange that Nagy hired three new offensive coaches to overhaul an offense that he has designed and implemented. He is an offensive "guru" who doesn't seem to have an authoritative understanding of offensive football. This point is especially obvious in his struggles with the running game.


nagy is a super positive guy who interviews well and has a good resume. also the polar opposite of marc trestman. nothing wrong with hiring competent positional coaches. also worth noting, the QB isnt very good, the RB position is weak, and the offensive line while handsomely paid is not that great. combine all that and im not sure any OC is successful with this talent core.


Did Nagy actually hire competent offensive coaches? Juan Castillo certainly isn't more highly regarded than Harry Hiestand. And DeFilippo and Lazor are journeymen coaches with a lot of experience but few real accomplishments. They're the kind of coaches who get other coaches fired.

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I know Nagy may be playing the dumb game of trying to trick the first opponent like he did by not playing anyone in the preseason last year but it's a pretty big failure if you make a trade for a quarterback to replace the quarterback you drafted and he's not noticeably better than the quarterback you drafted that you want to replace.

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Everyone knows its going to be Foles. This is just really dumb bush league shit by a coach and GM that know they are on their last chance.
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Like what is going to change the gameplan? Everyone know the Bears have no OL, no TE and no RB that belong on an NFL roster (aside from Tarik Cohen, who is barely a RB). Does it really matter who the QB is? Who do they intend on fooling with the NCAA D-1 quality offensive line and runningback corps with nobody even remotely capable of being a starter?
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i would imagine the bears told the qb's its (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky until game 3 or 4. if they aren't at least 3 and 1 then foles goes in. theyre just telling the fans they dont know in order to keep people watching.

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Three wins. Maximum.

This is a disaster.
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Three wins. Maximum.

This is a disaster.

You're the same guy that told me this elite defense will carry the team :lol:

yes...Nagy is turning out to be a shitshow. yes....the offense is going to suck. I'm sticking with 7-9

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Nah I've been pretty consistent in the doom and gloom since they totally fucked up free agency.
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Hub says "(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky makes the most sense" as starter, as Foles has excelled more as a backup and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky hasn't come off the bench.

Jesus Fucking Christ.

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Hub says "(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky makes the most sense" as starter, as Foles has excelled more as a backup and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky hasn't come off the bench.

Jesus Fucking Christ.

Hub is gonna Hub :lol:
What infuriates me as the acceptance that "Nagy is going to get better". ummm...He is an NFL Head coach. in Year 2 he demonstrated he's not very good. That's not something I want to wait and see improvement on. You have to be good. Period.

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Nagy has run the exact same gameplan for thirty-three straight games.
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yet he's not an idiot...he knows he has to run the football more :lol:
If only Nagy had more control over the offense and play-calling.

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Dont forget that Ryan Pace hasn't acquired an impact player since he traded for Khalil Mack two years ago.
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I think the Bears will win 7 or 8 games with there defense, but they are a one and done playoff team at best.
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The defense isn't that great. Really top heavy with Roquan, Jackson and Fuller...everyone else is pretty average. And who knows with Roquan, guy is weird as fuck.
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You think that by repeating that Mack is no longer an elite player at 29 that you can wish it into reality.

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He was good-not-great last year.
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Even Mack acknowledges he wasn't up to the standards of his contract.
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He just didn't put his pads on the quarterback enough. The first few weeks he was great but he laid a bit fat dud in that much ballyhoo'd Raiders gameand from then on he looked lethargic. The guy basically doesn't play in the fourth quarter, which was fine when he was making game changing plays all the time but its not fine when he's mostly being average.
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8-8 team at best
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The defense isn't that great. Really top heavy with Roquan, Jackson and Fuller...everyone else is pretty average. And who knows with Roquan, guy is weird as fuck.



You couldn't be more wrong about this D

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You're saying I'm wrong that Eddie and Fuller are among the best in the league at their positions?
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