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"Is it hard to do? Absolutely," Nagy said. "I'd be lying to every one of you guys if I told you that this is easy. It's not easy. It's one of my favorite parts of coaching. I love calling plays. I love it. I love it.


wow. talk about saving face. this guy just won back the locker room and the entire fanbase. :shock:

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Stubborn fucker finally gave in.

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You have to wonder why you don’t fire a coach that gives up making the calls. That is why he was hired.

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Reads too much like a perfectionist and control freak. If you're gonna give up play calling you do it for the rest of the season, not on a temporary basis. What a dumbass. The numbers don't lie - your offense sucks.

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Unfortunately he'll still be the guy kicking field goals on second down because there's no way they can gain more yards with the defense expecting running plays


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His way of saying fuck you to Pace. You want to see someone else call plays with the shit you gave me. Here you go. Still going to be the same set of plays with the same players. Nothing is changing here.

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well is he? when a man admits he was wrong, that is not a sign of idiocy.

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You have to wonder why you don’t fire a coach that gives up making the calls. That is why he was hired.


sure, but the players havent given up on him yet. and he made the quarterback move the fans wanted him to make. what im really starting to like about this guy is his ability to adapt. very good sign.

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His way of saying fuck you to Pace. You want to see someone else call plays with the shit you gave me. Here you go. Still going to be the same set of plays with the same players. Nothing is changing here.


i think thats likely what this is. i doubt hes mad at pace, but hes putting himself in a position to not get fired. smart move.

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The Packers tried this with McCarthy near the end and it failed miserably. The problem is that the quality of offensive coordinator you get is usually pretty poor on a team where it is already presumed that the HC will be calling all of the plays. Don’t be surprised when Nagy reclaims the role (like McCarthy did...and then got fired).

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he problem is that the quality of offensive coordinator you get is usually pretty poor on a team where it is already presumed that the HC will be calling all of the plays.

Lazor as OC of the Bengals in 2018: 26th total yards, 21st rushing, 24th passing, 20th in percentage of drives getting a score
in 2017: 32nd total yards, 31st rushing, 27th passing (Bears were 32nd), 26th in percentage of drives getting a score

Maybe it was just that the Bengals weren't very good... at least that has to be the hope.

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Patterson might as well bring his slippers to the bench for in between kickoffs.

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newper wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
he problem is that the quality of offensive coordinator you get is usually pretty poor on a team where it is already presumed that the HC will be calling all of the plays.

Lazor as OC of the Bengals in 2018: 26th total yards, 21st rushing, 24th passing, 20th in percentage of drives getting a score
in 2017: 32nd total yards, 31st rushing, 27th passing (Bears were 32nd), 26th in percentage of drives getting a score

Maybe it was just that the Bengals weren't very good... at least that has to be the hope.

Well, fwiw, McCarthy led the worst offense in the league prior to being hired as the Packers coach. Quite the resume.

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Nagy was arm twisted to give up play calling by Pace. Jim Miller on with ZZ wasn't too complimentary of Foles not taking charge of the offensive group to stem screw ups. Wrong guys on the field, out of position, calling a play by himself if it's late coming in.


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vitoscotti wrote:
Nagy was arm twisted to give up play calling by Pace. Jim Miller on with ZZ wasn't too complimentary of Foles not taking charge of the offensive group to stem screw ups. Wrong guys on the field, out of position, calling a play by himself if it's late coming in.


Miller was a bad QB, He never acclomplished half what Foles has.

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His way of saying fuck you to Pace. You want to see someone else call plays with the shit you gave me. Here you go. Still going to be the same set of plays with the same players. Nothing is changing here.


i think thats likely what this is. i doubt hes mad at pace, but hes putting himself in a position to not get fired. smart move.

I agree with both Ike and The Man.
A whole lot of nothing here as the offense is terrible. He's in survival mode.

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will lazor's playsheet say "be you"? or is he just taking nagy's playsheet and crossing out al the plays that require more than 2 seconds of QB protection?


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312player wrote:
vitoscotti wrote:
Nagy was arm twisted to give up play calling by Pace. Jim Miller on with ZZ wasn't too complimentary of Foles not taking charge of the offensive group to stem screw ups. Wrong guys on the field, out of position, calling a play by himself if it's late coming in.


Miller was a bad QB, He never acclomplished half what Foles has.

Foles has been terrible his whole career outside of a three game stretch a few years ago.

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312player wrote:
vitoscotti wrote:
Nagy was arm twisted to give up play calling by Pace. Jim Miller on with ZZ wasn't too complimentary of Foles not taking charge of the offensive group to stem screw ups. Wrong guys on the field, out of position, calling a play by himself if it's late coming in.


Miller was a bad QB, He never acclomplished half what Foles has.

Foles has been terrible his whole career outside of a three game stretch a few years ago.


there was that 27td 2int season too in 2013


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FavreFan wrote:
312player wrote:
vitoscotti wrote:
Nagy was arm twisted to give up play calling by Pace. Jim Miller on with ZZ wasn't too complimentary of Foles not taking charge of the offensive group to stem screw ups. Wrong guys on the field, out of position, calling a play by himself if it's late coming in.


Miller was a bad QB, He never acclomplished half what Foles has.

Foles has been terrible his whole career outside of a three game stretch a few years ago.



Not true

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312player wrote:
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312player wrote:
vitoscotti wrote:
Nagy was arm twisted to give up play calling by Pace. Jim Miller on with ZZ wasn't too complimentary of Foles not taking charge of the offensive group to stem screw ups. Wrong guys on the field, out of position, calling a play by himself if it's late coming in.


Miller was a bad QB, He never acclomplished half what Foles has.

Foles has been terrible his whole career outside of a three game stretch a few years ago.



Not true

:lol: Ok. I guess I just got lucky by saying he would be fucking terrible and then that's exactly what happened.

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Nobody would look good with this line and Nagy.. Foles has shown to he is very capable with a good line. 27 TDs and 2 picks is a great season, that wasn't his SB year either.

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Nobody would look good with this line and Nagy.. Foles has shown to he is very capable with a good line. 27 TDs and 2 picks is a great season, that wasn't his SB year either.

He was ok for one season 7 years ago, and three games three years ago. The VAST majority of his career he's been an objectively bad QB. Anybody who follows the NFL knows the Bears were getting a shitty QB in Foles, not some magical savior.

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Nobody would look good with this line and Nagy.. Foles has shown to he is very capable with a good line. 27 TDs and 2 picks is a great season, that wasn't his SB year either.

He was ok for one season 7 years ago, and three games three years ago. The VAST majority of his career he's been an objectively bad QB. Anybody who follows the NFL knows the Bears were getting a shitty QB in Foles, not some magical savior.


You still like Mitch over Josh Allen?

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312player wrote:
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312player wrote:
Nobody would look good with this line and Nagy.. Foles has shown to he is very capable with a good line. 27 TDs and 2 picks is a great season, that wasn't his SB year either.

He was ok for one season 7 years ago, and three games three years ago. The VAST majority of his career he's been an objectively bad QB. Anybody who follows the NFL knows the Bears were getting a shitty QB in Foles, not some magical savior.


You still like Mitch over Josh Allen?

They aren't much different. If they switched teams two years ago Mitch would be playing well in Buffalo and Allen would be ruined by Nagy,

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One guy has great pocket awareness and a huge arm..the guy don't and plays for the Bears.

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One guy has great pocket awareness

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Just stop.

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