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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:26 pm 
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This is quite an entertaining extension of the regular season. The Bears are STILL Fun Bad. :cheese:


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The 3 people they really wanted (Clements, and Bates) didn't interview and took other jobs. They got Fewell to interview but he took another job right away too. They started thier search pissing into the wind. Zampese and Chudzinski withdrew themselves and basically said no thanks. Now another guy canceled his interview to take a job with Oakland.

There is no overreacting here. You cannot tell me you think this is part of a plan, unless their plan is complete ineptitude.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:43 pm 
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Damn, is it that hard to find a little perspective here? Bates went to coach with his colleague Carroll in Seattle, Clements wasn't allowed to interview by McCarthy, and Jackson took the guaranteed job in Oakland vs. an unknown in Chicago. Now beyond that, we can finally begin complaining about who they interview and why said candidates turn them down.

Don't get me wrong, I'm in favor of removing Smith/Angelo as well, but not because they didn't interview three OC candidates they wished to.

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I don't think they had a plan. Bates took a job for more money and security. The Packers wouldn't allow Clements to interview. Fewell went to work for a team that has more talent and for a coach that gave him his first job.

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Unless the Bears are not offering a competitve salary and/or only offering a 1 year deal, I think the reasons are fairly obvious.

1) Coaches know there's a good chance that they could be fired after this season.
2) Coaches know they aren't going to have much influence on the positional coaches given that most of the staff is in place.
3) Is this going to be a shared position with Mike Tice given the chance that the hire will have no experience as an offensive coordinator, and Tice's apparent influence with Lovie Smith in that he's part of the interview process.

In other words, will this hire be allowed to run the offense the way he wants to run with Tice's role? With this being a make or break season for the entire coaching staff, how much will a new OC be allowed to control given that Smith has publicy said that he wants to get back to being a running team (which, if it were to succeed would reduce the throws (INT's) by Cutler and give the defense more time off the field?

This OC role doesn't appear to be much different than the DC role.


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I'm glad McCarthy said no to Clements. Although, I'm not sure why any HC in the same position would actually allow an interview.

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I'm glad McCarthy said no to Clements. Although, I'm not sure why any HC in the same position would actually allow an interview.


Clements is only a QB's coach though so it would have been a promotion. I'm sure McCarthy didn't want to lose him to a divisional team though.


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I'm glad McCarthy said no to Clements. Although, I'm not sure why any HC in the same position would actually allow an interview.


Clements is only a QB's coach though so it would have been a promotion. I'm sure McCarthy didn't want to lose him to a divisional team though.


Right. I believe Clements would have accepted the job had he been able to interview and been offered it. I just dont understand why any coach would let one of their higher regarded position coaches go for an interview. I've also read that Clements had alot to do with Rodgers development.

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I just dont understand why any coach would let one of their higher regarded position coaches go for an interview.
That kind of policy is going to make it very difficult to get the people you want if they know that you will block any attempt to move up in the coaching world. I would think that a coach that sells the fact that he will do all he can to get you to move up and get promoted would have a much better chance at getting the top talent that is available.

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I just dont understand why any coach would let one of their higher regarded position coaches go for an interview.
That kind of policy is going to make it very difficult to get the people you want if they know that you will block any attempt to move up in the coaching world. I would think that a coach that sells the fact that he will do all he can to get you to move up and get promoted would have a much better chance at getting the top talent that is available.


But most HC's shelf lives are so short I cant see that being a big determining factor. I dont believe most coaches expect to be with a franchise for more than 5 years.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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I just dont understand why any coach would let one of their higher regarded position coaches go for an interview.
That kind of policy is going to make it very difficult to get the people you want if they know that you will block any attempt to move up in the coaching world. I would think that a coach that sells the fact that he will do all he can to get you to move up and get promoted would have a much better chance at getting the top talent that is available.


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I just dont understand why any coach would let one of their higher regarded position coaches go for an interview. I've also read that Clements had alot to do with Rodgers development.


maybe you don't want your coaching tree to be a coaching stump?

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But most HC's shelf lives are so short I cant see that being a big determining factor. I dont believe most coaches expect to be with a franchise for more than 5 years.
You've got to have pretty low self-esteem to think that you'll get fired within 5 years. Almost all coaches that get fired in the first 5 years are considered failures. It may happen a lot but I'd have to imagine that even terrible coaches think they'll beat the odds.

That's also all the more reason to have good relationships with your current and former coaches. You'll never know when you'll need to use that networking connection. You may also want them to come back to your staff later on if you get another head coaching job.

I can understand denying going to a team you play twice a year and the insight you would have though.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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But most HC's shelf lives are so short I cant see that being a big determining factor. I dont believe most coaches expect to be with a franchise for more than 5 years.
You've got to have pretty low self-esteem to think that you'll get fired within 5 years. Almost all coaches that get fired in the first 5 years are considered failures. It may happen a lot but I'd have to imagine that even terrible coaches think they'll beat the odds.


I dont know why but I LOL'ed at that. I dont think it's low self esteem. It's simply true. How many current coaches have been with their current team for 5+ years. Not that many I dont think.

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As an org, can the Bears actually just say "You know what, we've screwed up, we're firing everyone" press conference like that? This search is embarassing for them, but doing that would be even more embarassing. Especially after the arrogance and bravado of the last one...

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A real leader would end this farce by firing Phillips, Angelo & Lovie immediately. I honestly dont know how the McCaskey Family can let this situation continue. As the owners of the Bears, what must happen for them to say enough is enough?


Now that's well said, Scorehead.












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When Ravens' QB Coach Hue Jackson says he's taking the Offensive Coordinator job with the Oakland Raiders and avoids the Bears like the plague, that press conference Moe, Larry & Lovie Smith had about 3 weeks ago in Lake Forest is starting to become even more embarrassing and laughable... :oops: :lol:


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A real leader would end this farce by firing Phillips, Angelo & Lovie immediately. I honestly dont know how the McCaskey Family can let this situation continue. As the owners of the Bears, what must happen for them to say enough is enough?


Now that's well said, Scorehead.












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His only intelligent posts have to do with firing the dopes at Halas Hall. I've been saying this for weeks now.

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Scorehead wrote:
A real leader would end this farce by firing Phillips, Angelo & Lovie immediately. I honestly dont know how the McCaskey Family can let this situation continue. As the owners of the Bears, what must happen for them to say enough is enough?


The McCaskey's aren't here to create disorder. The McCaskey's are here to perserve disorder.


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The 3 people they really wanted (Clements, and Bates) didn't interview and took other jobs. They got Fewell to interview but he took another job right away too. They started thier search pissing into the wind. Zampese and Chudzinski withdrew themselves and basically said no thanks. Now another guy canceled his interview to take a job with Oakland.

There is no overreacting here. You cannot tell me you think this is part of a plan, unless their plan is complete ineptitude.


That IS the plan.
Change the family name from McCaskey to Humpty-Dumpty.

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A real leader would end this farce by firing Phillips, Angelo & Lovie immediately. I honestly dont know how the McCaskey Family can let this situation continue. As the owners of the Bears, what must happen for them to say enough is enough?


The McCaskey's aren't here to create disorder. The McCaskey's are here to perserve disorder.

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